3 Battery Generating System

[Turion]

hubs for rotors

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[wantomake]

Get well soon

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Yes prayers and belief for your health and recovery.

Arduino is a fascinating device. Been studying and learning as time allows. Really great to see all the possible uses with this as your imagination is the limit.

I understand more and more Matt and your mindset with this idea of battery setup.

wantomake

[wantomake]

Light years behind

Still working/learning Arduino world. Looking ahead to swich battery positions or just try a little Bedini cigar box switching.

Getting back into the shop helps focus the thoughts and efforts. Earlier setups and test of the 3BGS only proves there's more than I've seen or thought about. There are ways to see more out of this system. How does one convince forum FE minds to understand, believe, build, test this 3BGS "idea".

I'm not equipped to be that "one" to do that. The only word of the above mentioned I know is belief. Because I saw before me what happened with my build and tests.

wantomake

[RAMSET]

Wantomake
quote
How does one convince forum FE minds to understand, believe, build, test this 3BGS "idea".
end quote

Now you know the words that came out of my mouth in the conversation
to David ,after many similar conversations with Carroll.

a genuine question ,with an Obvious answer .

a 100% transparent live streamed demonstration of the tech [after all is prepared by the inventors to their satisfaction]

this is and was the goal and offer presented to David ,whom I absolutely believe [along with Matt and Carroll]


and just for the record

the offer still stands and the specialists who would oversee the measurement protocols to EE standards are always available.

obviously in the first Attempt there were financial constraints .
the Lab in Florida was chosen because Matt was close enuff and Carroll too

anything which was needed could be brought there and taken back when done .

maybe "you" are close enuff to Florida ? or would host a team of members to show the world somewhere else [your shop ??

there are fellows all across the globe who Volunteer in open source forums to help wherever and whenever they can.


sincerely
Chet K
PS
I had asked if we could "talk" not long ago ?
you asked me why and seemed unapproachable.
now you know why...

Now you know

[wantomake]

Already discussed

Wantomake
quote
How does one convince forum FE minds to understand, believe, build, test this 3BGS "idea".
end quote

Now you know the words that came out of my mouth in the conversation
to David ,after many similar conversations with Carroll.

a genuine question ,with an Obvious answer .

a 100% transparent live streamed demonstration of the tech [after all is prepared by the inventors to their satisfaction]

this is and was the goal and offer presented to David ,whom I absolutely believe [along with Matt and Carroll]


and just for the record

the offer still stands and the specialists who would oversee the measurement protocols to EE standards are always available.

obviously in the first Attempt there were financial constraints .
the Lab in Florida was chosen because Matt was close enuff and Carroll too

anything which was needed could be brought there and taken back when done .

maybe "you" are close enuff to Florida ? or would host a team of members to show the world somewhere else [your shop ??

there are fellows all across the globe who Volunteer in open source forums to help wherever and whenever they can.


sincerely
Chet K
PS
I had asked if we could "talk" not long ago ?
you asked me why and seemed unapproachable.
now you know why...

Now you know

Hello Chet K,
I believe most of this first part of your post was discussed over on:
Continued Tests of the 3 Battery System

As for the PS I'm sorry if my answer came across as unapproachable. I may have meant I'm not that knowledgeable on the subject. I can only tell what the setup (small scale) I had was able to do. It only kept the shop lights and itself powered without using any voltage from the battery banks that ran it. Not much amps out or in. But was a pain to balance. But did maintain same voltages on primary and charging battery banks.

I did post some videos on YouTube of the setups working.

Right now my shop is full of household boxes and containers from our decluttering our home while trying to sell it. So I can't run any test and answer any questions for you.

wantomake

[Aaron]

@Ramset

there are fellows all across the globe who Volunteer in open source forums to help wherever and whenever they can.

We know what kind of clowns you associate with - Luc, TK and the rest of those time wasters. They're not available to "help" - all they have done is the best they can to spread disinformation, disrupt, etc. They are not to be trusted and neither are you.

[Aaron]

Warning of ramset and company

Ramset - the posts are moved here so as to not disrupt this thread.

http://www.energeticforum.com/free-e...d-dispute.html

I will post the below because it is relevant to this thread because of a desire to properly quantify results and is why I'm posting this warning about Ramset and his scam buddies.

@All - the history of Ramset's associates like TK, Mile High and other clowns are posted all over this forum and elsewhere on the internet. Mile High, TK, Luc, etc. are all known liars and troublemakers. This is who Ramset chooses to align himself with and is who he is referring to as being the ones that are able to "help" you all understand what you actually have. What a joke.

One of the biggest red flags in this whole field come from the liars who proclaim, "We're here to help!" - that is guaranteed to tell you exactly who to stay away from. Many of us in this forum have experienced the clown show put on by Ramset's buddies and this goes back probably 10 years.

Example - I literally performed thousands of hours of experiments with pulsing inductive resistors about 10 years ago - self-oscillating a mosfet to send battery power to an inductive resistor at all kinds of frequencies and then recovering what comes back from the oscillatory transients "spikes" through the mosfet's intrinsic diode back to the source battery thereby extending running time.

Ramset's buddies who I'm mentioning claimed that there can be no recovery since the resistance of the nichrome wire will "burn" up everything going through it since the thinking is that a heating element is 100% efficient since all current moving through it converts to heat - that is a false understanding from mainstream thinking but that is where their claims come from. If it burned up all the current, how does any current move from the resistor to the battery + in order to complete the loop? That is the first clue that there is more there than the resistor uses.

So why is it that when the mosfet switches off, the magnetic field collapses and gives me spikes over 1000 volts? Because there is recovery. This is an example of the nonsense that Ramset's "experts" are there to "help" with so as a warning to all, like I said, he cannot be trusted and neither can his professional stooges. They started to insult everyone and insisted that they were right even though it was blatantly obvious that there is plenty of recovery coming back and then TK started to outright lie and spread lies on overunity.com, etc. they were literally hell-bent on doing everything they could to make sure nobody believed that recovery was even possible.

They also do not know anything about batteries or how they work (very relevant to this thread) and that you cannot measure what a battery has by monitoring voltage and current going into it. You can only measure the actual work the battery will deliver during discharge because what goes into the battery is electrically related to what comes out but is NOT directly proportional. You can wind up with less than you put in, you could get the same as what you put in and you can even wind up with MORE than what you measured electrically as going in.

So the only thing Ramset's "specialists" are qualified to do is run their mouths and conduct their dog and pony shows.

[wantomake]

Progress

Yes progress is good. The Arduino project has gotten to the mounting on plexiglass with power switch etc. Now learning the programming to setup the switching for a 3GBS system. It's only a small version to start and learn with as this endeavor births before me.

63 year old retired students enrolled in this University of Free Energy need full attention, alertness, coffee, imagination, knowledge, TIME, and to use all these we need wisdom. Distracting people or thoughts are placed on the "ignore list" to allow progression built on attention, alertness, coffee, imagination, knowledge, TIME but managed with wisdom. Did I mention coffee?

I respect ALL humans for or against this UFE and the mission statement to save and preserve US the planet caretakers. Professor Life trained me to recognize whom is which.

Thanks Prof. Aaron and Dave Turion, Matthew, Citfta, Bob French, and others so many patient and good teachers the heartbeat of UFE.

Oh I forgot to mention coffee,
wantomake

[Aaron]

Thane Heins

The Regenx has been proven a success by me. My Matt Mod mtr
without anything connected runs 1.3amps and with a huge over grown
10" rotor using 20 magnets then pulls 2 amps at up to 15v at the time.

Each time I tune a Regenx/Turion coil to run on it, meaning get the right
number of series connected strands long enough, I relieve the burden
back to nearly the original 1.3a using 1 coil. Tesla stated that these
parallel wound series connected coils would exhibit a specific characteristic.

Coils that generate power as if these were not there or in the field.

Thane is just a regular guy- has made it work. His feelings or ego have
been damaged in the past so he no longer answers very many people.

Q1 - So you have verified that with the generator coils loaded that the prime mover unloads?

Q2 - With the generator coils in place and magnets on the rotor spinning with nothing attached to the output of the generator coils, is that the "no load condition"?

For now, I'll post this link to some correspondence from Thane Heins to think about: https://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHei...tters-11667402

And this old video that I haven't watched in years with Thane Heins:

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osYN5f35Bc[/VIDEO]

[ron48]

Hey ramset romero had the secret and i am sure tinman does too as his reply at overunity pierres thread the one befote gotoluc took over. So we will not see it given by anyone just one mans opinion you should work on tinman if you want them people to have fresh water for free. But i guess you already know that about brads rotary transformer.

[wantomake]

Something done?

As the rain has moved on, I may be able to make room in the shop today. Have parts coming in the mail to try my skills(?) at building smaller gnerator with coils. Thanks to a good friend and donor for these parts. As Turion/Matthew stated the under load on coils idea has interesting potential. I've not experienced this fully yet but plan to. The size and winding of coils will be time consuming and pricey. Single, bifilar, trifilar, or multi-filar will be explored. Speed of the rotor, type of coil core, load, etc.

Please start your own thread if you've nothing to add to the subject at hand. With respect to ALL and I get it.

I'm here to learn and build, then post on that progress.

wantomake

[BroMikey]

Hello Aaron and group members

If I give you the answer, I'll have to shoot you in the interest of national
security. What the hell, I'll give you what I have anyway and promise
your safety to the best of my ability.

My original questions started like this.

1) If I have a pulse motor running how much power?

2) If I have a pulse motor with rotor how much more?

No one could answer because everyone's setup was not the same as
the guy asking.

Like Turion said cogging makes a difference also when you begin adding
many many gen coils around the rotor. But what I have is one coil that
that helps the rotor action with less than half of it's windings engaged.

I am not going to be able to put all of this in engineering terms so
I'll give you what I have. When one of my old motors turns my rotor
the motor runs at 90vac on the variac at 2.38amps or 215 watts.

Each time I engage my Tesla coils that are parallel wound series
connected the coil puts out 20 watts and eases the draw on the
drive motor. It drops 44watts.

Also the original questions use to go like this

3) How much increase on the drive motor with coils not engaged?

But in the end running the systems I have answers so much. The
coils assist rotor action and each time you add one the drive current
keeps dropping while providing real power.

4) How many coils to the break even?

[Turion]

Reality

Every coil you add to make the motor speed up under load also places a steel or iron core in the path of a rotating magnet, which SLOWS IT DOWN in the first place. The speed up under load ONLY happens when the rotor is ALREADY turning and you put a load on the coil. If you put a bunch of coils with iron cores around your rotor and try to start the motor, the attraction of the magnets to the iron is so great the motor CANT break it and start spinning, and the amp draw of the motor goes through the roof. Now, if your individual coils are introduced to a moving rotor, they will slow it down, but when you add a load they will speed it back up. There isn’t any GAIN. So when a rotor is ALREADY turning magnets past a bunch of coils with iron cores, the hard work is already DONE...getting the rotor to even turn. When you add a load the motor speeds up, but all you did was neutralize the “slow down”!the iron core of the coil was already responsible for. Or at least that is MY observation.

[BroMikey]

Okay that was the last question I had

5) How much drag in amps does a coil core placed in the rotor field
cost without turning it on?

In my case with just the rotor turning the amps were nearly the same
as the rotor and coil not turned on yet. 200 miliamps difference. Yet when
turned on I gained over 400miliamps which translates to a gain of
200miliamps or 20 watts PLUS I am getting another 20 watts out of the
generator coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E7XRgbMIGc&t=74s

[Turion]

Magnets

There is a heck of a lot of research that needs to be done with a single coil with (for example) a 3/4 inch core. What is the power output when the rotor has 3/4”x 1/4” magnets. Does it improve with 1” magnets? With 1 1/2” magnets? With 2” magnets? It should, just because of the magnetic mass. But does a 3/4” by 3/4” magnet give you more power output than a 2” by 1/4”? And which causes more DRAG. And how much magnetic mass is so much that the coil can NO LONGER pull in the flux from the passing magnet? And does changing the RPM affect that? These are the questions I am learning the answer to by running test after test and spending thousands of dollars on rotors and magnets. Those who want to share the expense are welcome to the answers. THAT is how you find out what makes the BEST generator. And don’t even get me started on CORE material.