3 Battery Generating System

[mobigozer]

Thanks for Bob French's video Dave, very nice video. I will try doing this with a 12v doorbell I have in my workshop.

[kenssurplus]

If anyone is interested to see how I did mechanical switching (true I built it for 3 phase coil shorting, but there were other iterations for cap dump and cap / battery removal and reinstertion ), I have a comprehensive bench detailing the parts and procedure here:
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[Turion]

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If there is anyone out there actually building the generator I have discussed here, I have some additional info that will eliminate the overheating of the coil cores that I have discussed here. Lengthen the cores beyond the coil by 1” and submerse the end of the coil in water. This can be done by cutting a hole in the lid of any small plastic container with a screw on lid and using a hot glue gun to secure the core in the hole created in the lid. Fill the container with water and screw it onto the lid. Problem solved.

[Sawt2]

If there is anyone out there actually building the generator I have discussed here, I have some additional info that will eliminate the overheating of the coil cores that I have discussed here. Lengthen the cores beyond the coil by 1” and submerse the end of the coil in water. This can be done by cutting a hole in the lid of any small plastic container with a screw on lid and using a hot glue gun to secure the core in the hole created in the lid. Fill the container with water and screw it onto the lid. Problem solved.

Interesting idea Dave, have you been experimenting with the idea? I may have to give it a try to see how long it takes to heat the water up.

[Turion]

Answer

I tried several things attached to the core to try and absorb the heat. I tried this without lengthening the coil core and it seemed to work, but leaked like crazy. I do NOT know for sure how the longer core will affect coil output or the heat issue, but the water, and the fact that the bottle of water is also surrounded by air seemed to negate the heat issue completely. A death in the family has kept me out of town for the last week, but while I was gone my mom totally organized my shop, so when I get home I will be able to get back to work on this at least a little in the evenings now that I have some bench space to actually put a machine together again. It may take me a couple weeks as I have to wind an entire NEW set of coils as I melted the last set, but as I assemble this thing I am going to put together a set of instructional videos.

I have been talking with Bob French and we are considering putting together a small three coil prototype unit that we will use to demonstrate how all these principles work and that they DO work, and then find someone with a 3D printer who can make a “kit” for those who are interested. We have NO interest in getting into marketing anything to anybody. No TIME. But when we prove it all works, maybe someone will step up. We figure we may be able to produce power AND heat water with a properly built machine.

Interesting idea Dave, have you been experimenting with the idea? I may have to give it a try to see how long it takes to heat the water up.

[Sawt2]

I tried several things attached to the core to try and absorb the heat. I tried this without lengthening the coil core and it seemed to work, but leaked like crazy. I do NOT know for sure how the longer core will affect coil output or the heat issue, but the water, and the fact that the bottle of water is also surrounded by air seemed to negate the heat issue completely. A death in the family has kept me out of town for the last week, but while I was gone my mom totally organized my shop, so when I get home I will be able to get back to work on this at least a little in the evenings now that I have some bench space to actually put a machine together again. It may take me a couple weeks as I have to wind an entire NEW set of coils as I melted the last set, but as I assemble this thing I am going to put together a set of instructional videos.

I have been talking with Bob French and we are considering putting together a small three coil prototype unit that we will use to demonstrate how all these principles work and that they DO work, and then find someone with a 3D printer who can make a “kit” for those who are interested. We have NO interest in getting into marketing anything to anybody. No TIME. But when we prove it all works, maybe someone will step up. We figure we may be able to produce power AND heat water with a properly built machine.

Sorry for your loss


As for the coil cooling Sounds good, I hope you're able to make a few bucks in the process.

[Turion]

$$$

I have no plans or even a desire to make $$ off the generator. It is there for everyone to build and benefit from. Or not. I have done MY part. What people choose to do or NOT do with it is up to them. I do intend to show a working unit over the next couple months as time allows, with measurements to put to rest all the BS I have put up with on this forum.

[liber63]

Hi Dave,
Good idea for the plastic container. I 've just burned a spool today when testing a coil. Fortunately not the wire. Been testing only few last weeks with lots of time on fixing, rearranging, trying to secure and fixing again. A lot of work on mechanic part. Tried few different things with the negating magnets but could not find the right spot. Maybe i will try with much smaller magnets.
I use just a fat bolt for core on the coil for start, just learning swimming, and today I used the same bolt but more than double the size. Did not seem to diminish the output. But this is based on my original tests that had been made with bolt 1/2 longer than the coil already.

[wantomake]

I want one

I tried several things attached to the core to try and absorb the heat. I tried this without lengthening the coil core and it seemed to work, but leaked like crazy. I do NOT know for sure how the longer core will affect coil output or the heat issue, but the water, and the fact that the bottle of water is also surrounded by air seemed to negate the heat issue completely. A death in the family has kept me out of town for the last week, but while I was gone my mom totally organized my shop, so when I get home I will be able to get back to work on this at least a little in the evenings now that I have some bench space to actually put a machine together again. It may take me a couple weeks as I have to wind an entire NEW set of coils as I melted the last set, but as I assemble this thing I am going to put together a set of instructional videos.

I have been talking with Bob French and we are considering putting together a small three coil prototype unit that we will use to demonstrate how all these principles work and that they DO work, and then find someone with a 3D printer who can make a “kit” for those who are interested. We have NO interest in getting into marketing anything to anybody. No TIME. But when we prove it all works, maybe someone will step up. We figure we may be able to produce power AND heat water with a properly built machine.

Turion,
I've got the rotor still. Not done any shop work in months.

I would be interested in a kit.
Thanks
wantomake

[automan]

If I can help

Hey Dave, I'm always available to help with CAD, printing or CNC if needed. Contact me anytime buddy.

[Turion]

Printing

automan,
Bob was going to call you a week ago. I told him I was going to call you just to get caught up, but then my daughter lost her baby and I had to go out of town. Probably first of the week I will give you a call. Bob has been drawing everything up. I just don’t have any time.

[Turion]

Rotor?

Wantomake,
I remember sending you a rotor. But I have sent so much stuff to so many different people I don’t remember if I sent you the magnets you need. If not, let me know. I think I might have some lying around. I’ve gone to 12 magnets on the rotor instead of six, and smaller, thicker magnets.

I have probably said this before, but I have a separate machine that holds a single coil and I can switch out the coil and rotor on it for testing. With six 2”x 1/4” magnets on the rotor I get “X” output. When I went to 1” x 1/4 magnets I got 75% of “X”. But since I could put twice as many of them on the rotor my total output was 150% of “X”. Then I increased the thickness of the magnets to 1/2” and my output went up over 200% of “X”.

Now this is just data running ONE coil, but if it works out to be the same kind of output for ALL the coils, I will be very happy, since all the info about generator output I have given on this thread was for the machine with 12 coils and six of the 2”x 1/4” magnets.

The machine I am putting back together is only a TEN coil machine, not 12, so it will not have as many coils to produce power, but my hope is that because I have gone to the smaller thicker magnets that I can get more of on a rotor, the output will be the same or MORE than what the bigger machine was getting.

[wantomake]

Sorry to hear that

Bob was going to call you a week ago. I told him I was going to call you just to get caught up, but then my daughter lost her baby and I had to go out of town. Probably first of the week I will give you a call. Bob has been drawing everything up. I just don’t have any time.

I'm hoping she's ok. And sorry for your loss.

Yes you sent me the big magnets. The using thicker ones is interesting.

wantomake

[Turion]

Magnets

Just a bit more info. Two of the two inch by 1/4 inch thick magnets stacked does NOT have the same magnetic field affect on the coil as ONE two inch by 1/2 inch thick magnet. just so you know,

[kryszal05]

One or more is better?

So, which option is better? Stacked magnets or one but thicker?

Thanks
Lukasz