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    I'm sure it will be obvious that I'm new to this forum. And even more obvious that I'm relatively new to the "Concept" of Renewable Energy. My background: Retired, self-taught, engineer (mechanical but in an electronics field) of some 30 plus years in industrry.

    For many years (since first U.S. energy crisis), I've had an interest and have studied the known and suspected nature of energy within our universe. More recently, in retirement I have taked a more hands-on approach to what we all choose to call renewable energy, with an emphisis on so-called "free energy" and/or over unity.

    At this point I have not built a single motor/generator/MEG to prove or disprove any suspected or preceived to-be-known principal(s). But what I have done is collect information on the stated discoveries, concepts, and, formulated principals of the appointed and/or self-appointed leaders or "principals" within this "movement". And, when I say collect information, I talking about many many hours of study and many thousand pages of ...what should I say, perhaps "stuff". I phrase it that way because it has run the gambit from critical thought to trash.

    Now, based upon this start within a very interesting field of study, I have developed a few conclusions that i would like to throw out for discussion. I would be pleased to have your input(s). Please follow my thought patern and conclusions (below). I will value the input of anyone with thoughful comments. And, I can assure you, I will have meaningful input into this forum...that may be of interest to you.

    Early on my study was directed toward Tesla (didn't everyone start there?) First I stumbled upon Joseph newman, then Tom Bearden & his close associate; John Bedeni. Then there was Don Smith and last, Robert Adams, and his associate; Harold Aspden.

    Joseph Newman is a unique individual, totally self taught and at some point in his life (he's been at this task for 30 plus years) he has had phenominal insite into the workings of the physical-electromagnetic universe. He was one of the first and was the first to receive absolute and uncondition rejection from the scientific and industrial world. If you should watch his presentations (performances) today, He comes across an an absolute blithering idiot - I think "they"(the rejection) have driven him to the edge of sanity. Nevertheless, his motor/generator worked. It did exhibit over-unity.

    Tom Bearden, without a doubt has a huge understanding of conventional science and the unconventional & mostly unknown "actions-of-nature" not yet understood by most of us, but which forms the basis of what little we do know about the natural concepts of "energy from the vaccumn. He, the scientist, along with his long time friend, John Bedeni, the techinician, have done a pretty good job of proving their concepts with working prototypes. Bedeni has even offered comercially viable related products into the market place. Unique pulse battery chargers.

    As a matter of interest, there is evidence that Bearden and Bedeni gained their initial interest and knowledge of "free energy" from the very early works of Joseph Newman. The problem with Newman was that he had workable principals but never was able to significently tell the world how it worked. Ton Bearden has the necessary exposure to all the science to do about the same thing and put it into the right words! Bedini had the necessary skils to put the concepts into prototypes and are probably closer than anyone else in producing commercially viable devices. But in spite of all the leading edge knowledge into the vaccumn and its energy, there is not today, after 30 plus years, a comercially viable device that can consistently and reliably power anything of significence!

    Somewhere along the line Don Smith came into the picture. I think Don started out with workable concepts, about the same as Newman, Bearden and Bedini, but favored higher voltages. These higher voltages DID have their merit. He has built high voltage devices with some "free energy" and perhaps COP somewhat over 1 but has NEVER made any device that come close to commercial practicality, AS HE IMPLYS! He does seem to make a few pretty prototypes, but if and when they work, it is under"questionable conditions and circumstances. I think Don "lost it" early on when he just could not make his marginally unique devices perform up to his expectations.

    Next came The Adams motor and the contributions made by Harold Aspden. If there is anyone in the field that understands what is going on with over-unity/free energy, to the extent that Tom Bearden does, then it is; Harold Aspden. In a few words, Adams made it work, and Aspden told him and the rest of us why and how it worked.

    In my opinion The Adams/Aspden motor and their patent offers the best blueprint for a suscessful prototype and future commercialization of the embodied concepts.

    Bottom line, though, most of the devices are escentually the same and after 30 years there is just not much real progress toward powering our homes, shop, businesses, and autos for the PRESENT STATE OF THE ART.

    Please tell me what you think.

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    Thanks SHYMAN

    Thanks for your post and opinions. Have you researched suppressed devices
    or technologies ? Like the stories of people that have been bought out or killed
    like EV Gray. I believe that John Bedini has made and can make the devices you talk about. But because of fear or possible threats, he only releases his technology on a limited basis. The basic principles he has shown, if developed, or done on a larger scale can produce the devices you talk about. That is my view.


    George

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    • #3
      I’ve read a lot of the stories about death threats, deaths and payoffs. These things are difficult for me to believe, but I certainly can’t say that I don’t believe there is some basis to perhaps some of them. Bearden claims to have witnessed a death, and claims some threats upon himself. I knew about the EV Gray questionable death, but have not researched his devices. What are the best sources to get into his technology?

      Are you trying to tell me that some of these guys are coming across as “enept” or have reached a point which they dare not go beyond, because of threats and payoffs?

      I am reading a lot more on Harold Aspden. I’ve got a gut feeling that if one studies the basics of the Adams-Aspden motor, then adds several features from some of Aspen’s later patents (concerning flux flow and control), throw in a little Bearden/Bedini, and thus, come up with a pretty good design and prototype.

      I still keep coming back to what I think is fact. That is, all of these devices are tapping the same energy source, and are basically structured somewhat along the same lines, i.e., there is not much difference in any of them. Our task is to understand the nature of this energy and how to work with it. Once that is known, I mean really known, then the devices we come up with will not be so elusive and temperamental. What do you think?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SHYMAN View Post
        That is, all of these devices are tapping the same energy source, and are basically structured somewhat along the same lines, i.e., there is not much difference in any of them.
        The solar system's motion through space - YouTube

        Apollo 15 falling objects experiment - YouTube

        Gyroscope in Free-Fall "Zero-G" - YouTube

        Al

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SHYMAN View Post
          ...
          I still keep coming back to what I think is fact. That is, all of these devices are tapping the same energy source, and are basically structured somewhat along the same lines, i.e., there is not much difference in any of them. Our task is to understand the nature of this energy and how to work with it. Once that is known, I mean really known, then the devices we come up with will not be so elusive and temperamental. What do you think?
          I think this free energy thing can only go forward with mainstream support. What I think important is that people need to acknowledge when they see an anomaly. For example the speed up under load effect has been there for years, it is an anomaly yet we just brush it off with some cheesy explanation. If we don't even agree it's an anomaly, how can we begins the experimental phase? You see a lot experiments done here, but it is just a grain of sand compare to a desert that mainstream can do. Without the population acceptance, I doubt anything can move forward.

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          • #6
            Gravity assisted machines

            Hi Shyman and welcome,
            take a look at this:
            Veljko Milkovic - Home Page - Official presentation of the researcher and inventor Veljko Milkovic

            regards

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            • #7
              Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
              I think this free energy thing can only go forward with mainstream support..........Without the population acceptance, I doubt anything can move forward.
              Look at the past 30 years of amateur effort, do you really think there will ever be "mainstream support"? There is one Heck-of-a-lot of talent out there, that will do it in spite of "the establishment". There has been progress...just nothing over-the-top yet.

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              • #8
                I'm still working on it, but I'm (not yet) sure what you're trying to tell me! I do appreciate your response.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wonderful View Post
                  I've looked at a number of the pendulum approaches. Once again, these mechanical/electromechanical devices are put forth as being able to tap energy from somewhere. And that somewhere has to be the "local environment/universal vacuum". They all go to the same source! The device, regardless of design, has to perform a function. It has to serve as a catalysts & threshold for entry of vacuum energy into 4 dimentional space time - our domain.

                  In view of these similarities amongst all such devices, I chose to work with the MEGs (no obvious physical motion) or the pulsed motor/generation (most all action in a single direction and congruent action).

                  I don't mean to say that significant results can not be acheived from the pendulum machine. What I am saying is that in a disipline wherein we are having to "tweek" every electromagnetic and mechanical aspect of our designs to receive some degree of desired results, then recipicating and other multi-directional movements just don't seem to be good practice.

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                  • #10
                    Outside the Matrix

                    Originally posted by SHYMAN View Post
                    That is, all of these devices are tapping the same energy source, and are basically structured somewhat along the same lines, i.e., there is not much difference in any of them.
                    Including rotating bodies.
                    Originally posted by SHYMAN View Post
                    I've looked at a number of the pendulum approaches. Once again, these mechanical/electromechanical devices are put forth as being able to tap energy from somewhere. And that somewhere has to be the "local environment/universal vacuum".
                    The fabric of space/dark matter/universal vacuum
                    The Cosmic Web, or: What does the universe look like at a VERY large scale? - YouTube

                    Originally posted by SHYMAN View Post
                    In view of these similarities amongst all such devices, I chose to work with the MEGs (no obvious physical motion) or the pulsed motor/generation (most all action in a single direction and congruent action).
                    Actually the MEG is traveling 350-600mi/sec in the fabric of space that acts instantaneously and keeps all rotating "bodies" from "sinking".
                    NASA Video Shows Motion of Stars - YouTube

                    Al

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                    • #11
                      It seems you have done your research and that your analysis is pretty much right on the mark. My own personal opinon is that for this to work there would have to be a colaborative research center. Where all of these people with intuative and learned minds can come together and assist one another. Of course that would take alot of money, which could only come from the industrial sector, which would only be willing to fund this if there were workable / near-workable prototypes that could power everday objects; like cars, computers, etc. Which brings us back to the beggining...a vaiable working prototpe. Without a research center with plenty of funding all of the great ideas will probably never come into fruition.

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