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  • #16
    I have read that the resulting ozone coming from the ionized air can be dreadful to the surroundings. For example it may wear on metals, causing oxidation and therefore reduced conductivity. (Put it high enough and you might fill ozone holes, harr harr! )
    In all seriousness, should this be a concern?

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    • #17
      Just use a different gas

      Originally posted by Stator View Post
      I have read that the resulting ozone coming from the ionized air can be dreadful to the surroundings. For example it may wear on metals, causing oxidation and therefore reduced conductivity. (Put it high enough and you might fill ozone holes, harr harr! )
      In all seriousness, should this be a concern?
      You can use most gases and it can be contained. For experimenting just use it in air but in an open area, it smells terrible

      Mike

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
        You can use most gases and it can be contained. For experimenting just use it in air but in an open area, it smells terrible

        Mike
        Alright, different gasses, I see.
        For air and open areas though, do you think it would be possible to, in some way, trap the bad ozone to prevent it from spreading? (Ozone does have it's industrial and medical uses, should getting rid of it be a problem. )

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        • #19
          Hello EMJunkie

          Hello EMJunkie,

          Very interesting Thread!! touching very "sensitive fields" for all those who may think they "know it all"(and maybe they just know absolutely nothing)...therefore, wrongfully think they have trapped Radiant Energy...right?

          Well, You have the knowledge of what you have learned in your schooling time, and that is great, to know you persist in keeping all those years of study very clear...that's good. However you should -at least- allow a little bit of space for "other possibilities" that "may exist"...before you were even born...
          Unfortunately, none of Us have the answers for everything we wish to know...and some may go...without getting even a 'decent percentage of knowledge'...Must of the times this is due to a very firm negation to accept what is beyond our logical explanations, based on our knowledge acquired through our lifetime. We just think "well, that's all I needed to know...all the rest is rubbish..."

          I always remember -and apply it- a very old but very wise statement..."I just know...that I know absolutely nothing ..."
          This magic words opens your mind to new and old knowledge that you may have not had access to, for whatever reason...

          I would like to express that my disagreements with just some of the things that you have posted here, does not relay directly to your particular thread or your personal opinion at any point. And like I wrote before, this is material that you, like another few billions have learned for more than One Hundred Years ago...and all you are doing here is re-writing it from a "Source" that was created many years ago...

          Therefore, I believe that arguments and expressing opposite opinions to some extent to the things you have written here-which is not just your opinion, but other billions- is not a good idea- at least for me- I believe first in the Real Working Models that physically could be set on top of a bench...and say, ok, debunk it ...apply all the formulas you want, calculate, compute, use Integers, the Highest levels of Algebraic Equations you may wish...however it works...That is -to me- more valid than a thousand formulas, a thousand arguments...because simply, it is there and could be touched, observed and seen perform...



          Congratulations and definitively it is a great post!



          Regards




          Ufopolitics
          Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-24-2012, 06:53 PM. Reason: quote error
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
            14-37 Arc Electron Avalanche

            Read this together with the post above, you will see how this applies.

            Mike

            P.S. this applies to more than one thread hear on this forum.
            this is in part, part of my electron beam tech: and I am sure you see why.
            Is the capacitor in your schematic a leyden jar like or a normal one?
            I don't see the relation between your schematic and the asymetric leyden jar cap. Where does a arcing occur in your schematic?
            But I see similarities between the TK Akvarium device with your schematic.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by EMJunkie View Post
              Hey Farmhand - go and purchase a Wind Turbine and measure the 'hocus pocus" happening there.

              Mate youre desputing repetable experiment's - This is "hocus pocus" everyday of the week if you look up the meaning. Dont kid yourself, do the experimentts and proove points.

              Out of respect, I am just getting to the point.

              If you really are serious do the experiments. You can purchase Meyl's equipment to replicate his eperiments if you really need to. A wind turbine is COP = Infinity! An Atom is always in continuious motion (for 13 Billion Years? or something?). The problem is simply, we are not smart enough to do it, not that it cant be done.

              EMJunkie
              I have done plenty of experiments, that's why I have an opinion. Just because you
              are not aware of my experiments does not mean I can not give my opinion. I
              showed some of them in a previous post in this thread.

              I find it amazing that you would think I could have made such a post without
              doing any experiments. And that you ignored the video's I linked, which are
              just two of many and I only videotaped a very small portion of my experiments.

              Where are the video's of your experiments ? Everything I see from Meyl tells
              me he is in it for the money only, and jazzing it up, but where are the
              measurements to the experiments ?

              Show me one of your "Meyl type" experiments that gives you an opinion.



              ...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                Thats why I posted it, and by the way I will say so if I have not tried it, there are a few differences to e-beam, but, I think this is what you are looking at, it is an electron and photon multiplier and will give you high current if set up in the right way.

                High voltage is needed for the input "15kv" so as to energise the air around the coils. Just heed my warning of nasty ionized gases if used in a small space "NOx" if used in air.

                Mike

                It will also glow in the dark if working properly
                Thanks,
                I don't peruse the board much due to time constraints, just happened to trip over this thread.

                Have you been down the road with the capacitor/transformer? It's an interesting thing. electrostatic volume seems to be key.

                100% in agreement, ozone is not to be taken lightly. I was exposed to an ozone leak in the lab once a couple yrs ago, bad on the eyes and lungs. talked like a smoker for a day or so afterwords.

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                • #23
                  units for a wave that doesn't exsist? or does it?

                  Wow professor Meyl and his experiments one hell of a subject in its own right gentlemen! The good professor has effectively been ostracised by academia for daring to demonstrate and document such heresy!
                  I've had the pleasure of meeting MJN and I'm certainly well aware of your erudite postings farmhand, your both undoubtedly better schooled in things Tesla than I. However It seems to me that work done by Meryl is really only a duplication and correlation of work done previously.
                  I am quite sure both of you will have watched, read, and digested all that is available on the subject on the WWW,. However for others following the thread I hope you wont object to me posting these links the first of which is Prof Konstantin Meyl briefly describing the scalar wave , followed by earlier work and experiments carried out by P.L and EPD which appear to be sympathetic with Meyl's conclusions.

                  https://vimeo.com/25025247

                  https://vimeo.com/channels/borderlands/11917342

                  https://vimeo.com/channels/borderlands/12721160

                  https://vimeo.com/channels/borderlands/13167370

                  Eric also has this well known lecture posted on you tube

                  Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson - YouTube (1 of 6)

                  On This P.D.F are the simple construction details of a simple “proof of concept “ for any readers for whom seeing is believing

                  http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/...pr-21-2011.pdf

                  This is the video demonstration carried out for the IEEE by Steve Jackson in order to investigate the scalar wave and in support of Meryl's work

                  20110324185908 (1).mpg - YouTube ( 1 of 5)

                  This work is part of a PESN open source project and should any readers of the thread wish to partake the web page is here

                  OS:Tesla, Meyl, and Jackson's Wireless Aetheric Power Transmission - PESWiki

                  Great thread Mike I guess we have to get some understanding of these units and their make up if we are to have any hope of engineering a viable system.But what to call the parameters of a type of electricity that officially doesn’t exist in any shape manner or form ? I guess first the nay sayers need blowing out of the water and then a whole new glossary of terms and descriptions needs writing. With our present learning we do not have the language the maths or the science to deal with this phenomena! (never mind the units)
                  Last edited by Duncan; 05-25-2012, 11:22 AM. Reason: wrong link
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