Growing Algae...

[willy96]

kick your can and your sh!t splatters !



you feel you have the urge to post in my thred ...

so i will post in yours ..

why dont you do something of a use .... insted of useless bs!

grow food stupid !

you come to my thred and spred bull sh!t i come to yours and destory it !

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12-16-2011, 09:11 AM
Jetijs
Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Latvia
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Dave
We have a saying, the more you poke a crap, the more it stinks. I think that it is high time for you to stop paying attention to the author of this therad
Glad you finally see him as he is.
Thanks,
Jetijs
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[Jetijs]

go ahead, happy newyear!

[willy96]

look at his shirt .....

my grand father ... the only reason i was able to acheive what i have ...

im the PRODUCT OF GOOD FOOD ....



THANK YOU ALVIN .. I LOVE YOU SIR!

WILLIAM


do you know what this man said to me b4 he passed ... ?? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?
NO SIR YOU DO NOT !

"i cant beleave its my grandson ... i cant beleave it !


how do you think i felt? i knew he knew who i was and am

[Savvypro]

@willy96

You'll find that this thread was started by me, and not Jetijs - although he has made some valuable contributions. This thread is about growing food, just take a look at the early posts in this thread.

If you have a problem with Jetijs, do your complaining elsewhere. Don't go ruining this one.

[Savvypro]

Thanks for the posts jetjis. I enjoy them.

Question... What kind of production are you seeing with that large tank?

I am looking to find out how large of a system I need to produce somewhere between 4 and 10 tablespoons raw per day.

I thought I had posted a production guide, but it seams that I haven't.

Figure about 1g per liter for Spirulina (which is about the top end compared to other algae in terms of production).

Chlorella is somewhat less at about .8g per liter.

So a 100 liter system should allow for production of up to:

80 grams of Chlorella

or

100 grams of Spirulina.

[Jetijs]

Savvypro, are those numbers intended per day?

[Savvypro]

Savvypro, are those numbers intended per day?

Per harvest, assuming a fresh batch of medium (nutrients) and everything is right for growing the algaes.

You also need to take into account nutrient replacement, for the next harvest.

[Shadesz]

Savypro,

Thanks. How often can you harvest? I want a harvest per day (I want it fresh, not dried).

Also,
Does anyone have detailed information about the growth cycle of different algae? I am looking for spirulina in particular. I know the steps of the cycle, but am trying to find information on how long each step takes, etc...

[Savvypro]

Based on my research, Spirulina can double in quantity in as little as 4 hours (when everything is just right). So you can harvest every day.

But to do so everyday you’ll need a large volume to be worth the effort. A minimum of say 50l - preferably 100l. Although this is just my opinion, but with 100l I can split that into 4 containers so I have 4 chances of completly messing up a batch and not loosing the whole 100l because it fouls up on me.

[echinoidea]

hey

hello savvy,
hows your spirulina technology going on? I see alot of beneficial information you have added in this thread. I too want to set up a basic reactor culturing spirulina but i am still in the infant stage, need to decide what to buy haha. I do have access to sciencejournal too, if u need, i can provide some assistance

cheers

[Jetijs]

Hi all.
I think I am done with chlorella. It is so hard to cultivate and harvest. No wonder it has not stormed the market as superfood as spirulina did. There are several major problems with chlorella:
1. it is small and round, typically about 3-9 microns small. This makes it very hard to harvest. Many bacteria is the same size so if fine micron filters are used, you will probably harvest much bacteria also. As it is round in shape, it flows through most filters and only very fine ones work, but get clogged up fast.
2. It grows in fresh water, this means it is more prone to get all kinds of bacteria as neighbors if the conditions are not sterile. And in bigger scales than a 1L bottle it is impossibly hard to maintain the proper level of sterility.
3. it has a hard shell so when consumed, it mostly goes through your body and does not get digested. So the cell wall needs to be broken and this requires additional work and equipment.

Spiruline on other hand is about 30 times bigger and spiral shaped, this means it is very easy to harvest and you can use coarser filters that let all the water and bacteria through, but catch only large spirulina cells.
Spirulina also grows in high PH mediums, and this is an advantage because many bacteria types can't survive at PH levels that high.

So I guess that with all the knowledge I got from my chlorella experience, I should switch to spirulina. The problem is that I can't find any live culture suppliers that ship to europe.
Savvypro, do you know any? Or maybe I can convince you send me a small sample of your culture?

Thanks,
Jetijs

[Savvypro]

@Jetijs

The main problem is that of importation laws. Since I already have the samples and have jumped through all the hoops of determining how the law stands at my end for me. If you can check on your end, then all we need to do is come to an arrangement on the shipping costs - which is going to be the main problem. As it needs to be done quickly and the sample has to be protected.

[Savvypro]

hello savvy,
hows your spirulina technology going on? I see alot of beneficial information you have added in this thread. I too want to set up a basic reactor culturing spirulina but i am still in the infant stage, need to decide what to buy haha. I do have access to sciencejournal too, if u need, i can provide some assistance

cheers

Its going well, I haven't posted as much, as I'm looking to see what happens over a longer term. Basically what happens if I don't disturb the samples (except for shaking the samples, and turning on and off the light).

So far I have some interesting results, that I'll be posting soon.

[Savvypro]

Spiruline samples... if you need one... I'm taking requests...

I'm currently in the process of prepping a Spiruline sample, that will be sent to Jetijs in about 2 weeks.

I have to order a few things in order to ship the sample. In order to reduce the cost to Jetijs, and to not take a hit myself, (as it will be about $30 to $40. I'm still trying to find only the supplys that will be needed and not have excess that will go to waste).

I’d be willing to prep a few more samples for shipment to others - so as to spread the cost.

This is only really viable and being offered to those outside of North America, simply because you can get Spiruline samples easily, as mentioned in previous posts.

The sample is free - I’m not charging for it or the medium, but you will have to pay for the shipping and the supply’s needed to get the sample to you.

If 3 or 4 more people are interested in obtaining a sample, I could then get the price to less than the algaelab price of $60. However that $60 is a ball park figure and totally dependent on the shipping cost, to get it to you. If your in the EU, you should be fine, but I’d have to check with the shipping company first.

Before anyone contacts me, you need to know that there is a risk of the package being prevented from being shipped to you or destroyed. The bulk shipping dealer I will be using to buy the shipping from, doesn't allow fluids or live samples in their T&C. But the shipping company which the sample will be shipped with does.

It’s basically half price through them vs. full price directly with say Fedex or UPS. As an example: the direct Fedex price for a 3 day delivery to Jetijs would be: $120, but through the bulk dealer it’s: $45.

Free sample, no longer available...

There is a time limit: it's only available for the next month. And to a maximum of about 5 samples/people, as I don’t have the time to do more.

[Gekko]

Hi Savvypro

I would be very interested in your offer and have been checking this thread several times a week. Actually I was going to start with ordering the chems for the medium and sort all that out first but now it seems I better get going :-)

My location is Germany.