Bedini-Lindemann 2012 Conference

[gyula]

Hi Aaron,

In the MAGNETIC ENERGY SECRETS link this is written:

Theoretically, the math shows that this kind of motor could possibly produce 1 mechanical horsepower output for as little as 200 watts of electrical input.

Can I get an answer that in PRACTICE how much electrical input power was needed to get 1 HP mechanical output?
Putting this otherwise: what was the measured COP for the advanced electrical motor?

Thanks,
Gyula

[Aaron]

efficient motor

Gyula, that isn't a claim that there is a motor at 1HP for 1-200 watts. The simple algebra shows that is what is possible. You have to listen to his explanation of how his motor works. He can speed up his motor without increasing the voltage, etc... has zero back emf and other features - and it has built in resistances, etc... to specifically keep it in the "normal" range.

Using these exact principles, he has lighting system controllers that run cold, etc... it is some theory, yes, but he actually applied these to some of the best products in the world in their category for lighting system and motor controllers.

[gyula]

Dear Aaron,

It was obvious for me, that in the original text I quoted in italics above, the 200 Watt input power for getting 1 HP was meant as the lowest possible limit. The upper limit is of course the known 746 Watt input for getting 1 HP.
So anything between the 200 W (as the lowest possible) and up to 746 W (i.e. 200-746 Watts) is already a COP > 1 performance.

The simple algebra shows (in my understanding) that what is possible is to have a (theoretical) motor which gives 1 HP mechanical output power for 200 Watt electrical input power as the best case and the worst case here is that it gives 1 HP for 746 Watt input.

I do not understand your answer on the 1-200 Watt range, I did not write or mean that.

I would like to know what practical performance was received from an advanced motor, built by the new ways of harnessing magnetism.

Thanks, Gyula

Gyula, that isn't a claim that there is a motor at 1HP for 1-200 watts. The simple algebra shows that is what is possible. You have to listen to his explanation of how his motor works. He can speed up his motor without increasing the voltage, etc... has zero back emf and other features - and it has built in resistances, etc... to specifically keep it in the "normal" range.

Using these exact principles, he has lighting system controllers that run cold, etc... it is some theory, yes, but he actually applied these to some of the best products in the world in their category for lighting system and motor controllers.

[Aaron]

magnetics

Hi Gyula,

Actually the upper limit isn't 746 - a motor might be so inefficient, it might take 1500 watts to make a horsepower and that would be really bad.

And 746 to make a HP is only at 100% efficiency.

Most motors take a bit more and 98-99% has already been done in many different configurations but they are also all under 1.0 cop.

With the advanced motors, if 1 HP can be made at 99% efficiency for barely over 746 watts and if 50% can be recovered that would normally be magnetic losses, then it only took about 370 watts for example. I'm not getting into it any more than that because this isn't my work. I'm also not claiming that Paul has a motor making 1hp for 100 or 200 watts either and neither is he.

The 1hp for 746 watts only applies to motors built according to conventional reasoning.

This video is about different magnetic concepts and an experiment that any competent engineer can replicate. Proving that the amount of magnetism is NOT directly related to the watt seconds used per second may seem simple but is one of the biggest pokes in the eye of conventional physics and electrical engineering because they claim it is directly related.

Even John Bedini's SG proves this and so do countless other projects in this forum. I would have to say it isn't an issue of whether or not it can be done, it is an issue of people raising mental blocks to force what they see to conform to what they already believe. I'm not saying that applies to you - I'm stating this is what we're all up against. Personally, I have zero intent to convince anyone. Information will just be presented and those that want to see it for what it is will get it and those that don't, won't.

That is the most important thing to understand from this video.

As far as his particular motor, Paul describes enough details about his works that a competent builder could experiment conceptually with the same thing with only a few coils just to learn it. The ultra fast switching speeds he is using is his company property so he can't share that method but even without that fast switching, results can still be had.

[Michael Kishline]

Energy Conference

Did nobody take some videos with their mobile phones and posted it yet to Youtube ?

I see no videos yet on youtube about it...too bad...
or was it forbidden to make videos at the conference ??

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan,
We were not allowed to take videos of the speakers this year only pictures, but we were allowed to video between speakers and everything else at the Conference.

Sorry you were unable to make it, I wish everyone could go it was awesome, well put together and the speakers were extremely informative. It was like listening to Professors excited about teaching, only difference, these guys have done what they're teaching!

For those unable to go you can see what and who was at the Conference in 1080p HD at this channel https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...8&feature=plcp

Thanks Aaron, Peter, John, Chuck, all your wives and everyone else behind the scenes that never get recognized, you guys do a great job and a great service! Can't wait for next year.

Mike
Enjoy

[Aaron]

Peter Lindemann's presentation released on Aug 8th

In 5 more days on August 8th, the second video from the conference is being released. It is Peter Lindemann's talk. More details coming soon...

[Aaron]

48 more hours!

Peter Lindemann's presentation is still on track to be released day after tomorrow. It is Part 2 of the Conference Series. Details coming soon...

[Aaron]

Perpetual Motion Reality

Peter Lindemann's presentation from the conference is now available!

Go here to learn more: Perpetual Motion Reality

[harlan.research]

John Bedini Schematic...........

Hi,

RE: John Bedini Schematic Kills Viruses/HIV

Did anyone by chance obtain the values of the components for the 6 oscillators that were chopped off on the left side of the of the copies? I know that John was offering in one of the video clips to provide the values at the back of the room to a few attendees.

Other than saying, 10Hz to 10KHz in an intermix; did he explain the further details of each oscillator's frequency, and why????.

Someone has to have these values. Really need this circuit operating for current virus-related illness.

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Harlan

[John_Bedini]

John Bedini Schematic...........

Harlan,
During the process of copying the values were cut off. I will talk about it on the Energy Science Forum.
This machine is not easy to set and build, this deals with Tom Bearden's pump wave and four wave mixing analogy. But I will go tough it.
Four Wave Mixing
John

[Aaron]

new presentation coming

Dave Squires talk on advanced motor principles from the conference will be available in about 2 weeks as a digital download!

[ekpod]

In the free videos of your modified generator at the convention, it was learned that your team wishes to quadruple the run time before releasing plans. The Meyer - Lawton coil can resonate fuel out of an electrolytic dry cell without integrated chips. It foams all these tiny little bubbles... the current is 2A, and about 12.1 volts at the supply.

Please enjoy the video -


The circuit diagram will be available when it is approved upon request.
Please contact through forum message.

[Aaron]

nitrogen dilution

Thanks EKpod, but Stan Meyer's secret is mixing nitrogen with the hho to dilute it to slow down the burn and reduce the flame temp. That is how you get the energy out of the HHO. It really isn't about special frequencies or other similar things that the internet is plagued with.

[ekpod]

I've learned that matching the resonant frequency of the water cell at every moment is important, because vibrational excitation will change the bond angle of the water and spit the molecules easier. Post process is not my concern.

The rate of gas production seems enhanced with this auto-tuned water cell whether it is electrolytic solution or plain water. Your cause seems just in pursuit of extending generator run times, and is the reason my offer stands.

I know what you mean about the internet plagues. One in particular is the dual 555 PWM circuit by Ravi. Built it, didn't electrolyze with the dry cell at all. Salvaged it for parts and built this one .

[ekpod]

Recycling the hydroxy torch exhaust like a turbocharger is another method shown by Stanley Meyer.
Yet another way is catalyzing the flame with stainless steel or another suitable metallic substance.

The following video shows additional results with approximately 11.5V 5.5A

Resonating Dry Cell Electrolysis

I certainly hope this shows a desireable result. This is the only electrolysis system I have built,
and would greatly appreciate an opinion on the apparent output. Fittings are 1/4in

Has anyone any interest in this?

Perhaps I could sell the plans for this circuit, or build units and offer them for sale, but who needs
that kind of press with psycho competition around? It wouldn't be right.

Better to offer it up for discussion!