Eric P. Dollard

[7imix]

I, too, have been quietly building, inspired by Eric. I have built a 2.5 foot diameter secondary coil, 20 turns (will adjust down to 17 to tune and compare) on a wooden frame. It's calculated with the equations given earlier, for 1 mhz.

For the primary I used the exact same wire as secondary, measured the distance between two clamps and then clamped folded 10 turns of wire back on itself. I then cut the bundle at both ends and joined them together to make one primary turn (if I measured carefully enough). Two turns of 10 wires should match the mass of the secondary.

Dave:

That is a beautiful MWO antenna you have etched there. I have been making plans to build a similar one for a while now, since I saw the USPA MWO presentation. However being the perfectionist that I am, I have been attempting to teach myself how to draw the rings in log periodic form. Have still not finished that project yet.

[Web000x]

John,
Difficult getting people to understand that their Math is incorrect when it quite clearly doesn't match the original.
This is in reference to Eric's Math for the Extra Coil which doesn't match the true Tesla Extra from the CS Notes.
I have provided all of this data in previous Posts but it goes unattended.
The amount of Copper in the Extra is more than double that of the Secondary where only 17 turns were used.
I have proven this without doubt with my current Crystal Set.
Going now to produce a new Extra that has a larger or longer form and wind it with wire that is closer to the 'true' TMT Secondary/Extra Copper mass relationship.
The fact that the Extra is not a true scaled down version of the original in size is, I feel, not of importance but the LENGTH of wire is as it is nearly the same as the Secondary.
Eric asked us to find all of this detail in the CSNotes and when presented as recorded, nothing happens.
As a consequence I don't hear people jumping up and down with success stories and if they do receive a signal, it is from blanket overload from a powerful 50kW AM transmitter and not my measly 2 kW received via a ground current.
Will advise when I have the new Coil up and running.

Have been taking Eric's direction with focus on the work of Gerry Vassilatos and have uploaded an extract from his books at 'n6kph' which gives a good insight into his Telluric/Ground current experiments.
There are 10 volumes that make up the entire Vril Compendium but have only been able to find several extracts but these may be all we need to gain an insight into this phenomena which has been clearly supressed or dismantled.
It is clear to see that both Gerry and Eric worked well together during the Borderland Years.

Gerry's 'Lost Science' here:

http://www.imlauer.co.uk/OS/Document...te-Edition.pdf

An extract on Guillemin that may be of assistance to Eric and the Math people:

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/hand...pdf?sequence=1

Presenting this to you in the hope that Eric can redefine the Math for his Extra Coil.
Thanks.

Smokey

Smokey,

I don't think that Eric has been following your work on the N6KPH group. He never really looks there from what I understand. If you would take pictures of your setup and go step by step on your observations in one post on this thread, I know that he would respond. He wants to see PICTURES and DATA.

Dave

[Nhopa]

Etching

Hi Web000x:
I seen some place that copper antennas do oxidize and therefore should be plated.
I have used ferric chloride before, but it is a bit messy and can't see the board being etched. I prefer ammonium persulfate, it is clear liquid and turns light blue when saturated with copper. There is one more method I will try and the formula is as follows:
Into 750 ml water pour in 150 ml 35% concentration HCl with constant steering and before etching add 100 ml 30% concentration Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). This method is definitely an outdoor procedure. Caution: Always pour the acid into the water and not the other way around and wear safety goggles and gloves during the procedure.

[Nhopa]

Impedance

How do you find out the output impedance of an oscillator if it doesn't say it in the manual?

I had the same problem but an INTERNET search gave me the answer for my unit. It appears from my search that now days most units will have the 50 Ohm impedance.

[Nhopa]

MWO antenna

..... I have been making plans to build a similar one for a while now, since I saw the USPA MWO presentation. However being the perfectionist that I am, I have been attempting to teach myself how to draw the rings in log periodic form. Have still not finished that project yet.

In the Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator Handbook, on page 79 are the dimensions given for the Golden Ratio MWO Antenna. I built a pair using plexy glass squares. I drilled a very small hole in the center for the compass point then I drew the circles on the plexy glass with black ink. Next I carefully applied glue with a small brush to the rings that will form the antenna. Do not apply glue all the way to the edges of the rings because the glue will then be pressed out to the areas that will be removed. Next I covered the square with aluminum foil and let it dry. The key to the success is to find a glue that does not harden to fast, allowing time to apply it to all the rings. I used rubber cement which sets up quite fast, but this was the best I could get here in Europe. Once the glue dries, take a compass with a very sharp blade and cut the circles and lift out the aluminum foil from between the glued antenna rings. The key here is using heavy duty aluminum foil and very sharp blade. X-ACTO makes them and they will fit into a special attachment for the compass. From the removed rings you can make the short cover pieces for the back side of the antenna. Are you making an MWO also?

[Nhopa]

Radiant Energy Power Receiver

soundiceuk:
Thank you for posting your design. What are the values for C5, C6, and C7, also is C8 a .001 uF capacitor?

[Web000x]

Dave:

That is a beautiful MWO antenna you have etched there. I have been making plans to build a similar one for a while now, since I saw the USPA MWO presentation. However being the perfectionist that I am, I have been attempting to teach myself how to draw the rings in log periodic form. Have still not finished that project yet.

I have the drawings done in AutoCAD 2009 if you're interested. Just shoot me a PM.

Dave

[dR-Green]

I had the same problem but an INTERNET search gave me the answer for my unit. It appears from my search that now days most units will have the 50 Ohm impedance.

Thanks, but I had tried that with no success. It's an AVO All Wave Oscillator so it's about as easy to find the answer on the internet as looking to find what size engine a car by the model name "car" has

[David G Dawson]

Thanks, but I had tried that with no success. It's an AVO All Wave Oscillator so it's about as easy to find the answer on the internet as looking to find what size engine a car by the model name "car" has

dR-Green,

http://www.vmarsmanuals.co.uk/archiv..._Generator.pdf

Is that the one?
Normally 400 ohms but goes up to 1,000 ohms as the frequency increases.

Smokey

[jpolakow]

John,
Difficult getting people to understand that their Math is incorrect when it quite clearly doesn't match the original.
This is in reference to Eric's Math for the Extra Coil which doesn't match the true Tesla Extra from the CS Notes.
I have provided all of this data in previous Posts but it goes unattended.
The amount of Copper in the Extra is more than double that of the Secondary where only 17 turns were used.
I have proven this without doubt with my current Crystal Set.
Going now to produce a new Extra that has a larger or longer form and wind it with wire that is closer to the 'true' TMT Secondary/Extra Copper mass relationship.
The fact that the Extra is not a true scaled down version of the original in size is, I feel, not of importance but the LENGTH of wire is as it is nearly the same as the Secondary.
Eric asked us to find all of this detail in the CSNotes and when presented as recorded, nothing happens.
As a consequence I don't hear people jumping up and down with success stories and if they do receive a signal, it is from blanket overload from a powerful 50kW AM transmitter and not my measly 2 kW received via a ground current.
Will advise when I have the new Coil up and running.

Presenting this to you in the hope that Eric can redefine the Math for his Extra Coil.
Thanks.

Smokey

Hi Smokey, my advice to you is like Dave says- post all your pictures, data, calculations in this thread. Eric might see it at the coffee shop or something, but regardless I'll show him next time he comes back, and I'm sure you will get a response. In fact I'm sure Eric would be quite happy to see it. This certainly isn't directed at you but Eric's primary complaint with the forum is that either not enough people are building stuff, or they aren't showing pictures/data of what they have done. Also, you may have posted some of your stuff on the N6KPH group, but Eric never, and I mean never checks that group. People may be unaware of that. So anything you want a response from will have to be in this thread. Good job, you are one of the few people actually getting something working! Also, I may have some questions for you soon regarding vacuum tube circuit design. We will see. Have a good day,

John

[dR-Green]

dR-Green,

http://www.vmarsmanuals.co.uk/archiv..._Generator.pdf

Is that the one?
Normally 400 ohms but goes up to 1,000 ohms as the frequency increases.

Smokey

Thanks, but that's not it. It's this one

http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/a...6&d=1153268138

If that doesn't work it's AVO_Osc.pdf in the 2nd post here

Circuits for old AVO All wave oscillator etc. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

It appears to be in need of a service anyway so it's out of service for the moment. I also got some generic DDS signal generator from Hong Kong on ebay so that will do in the meantime. Just finished getting everything set up and did a quick test. I've had to put the coil on top of the green tub to get at least around 30cm distance between it and the ground plane for maximum reading on the meter. Tests will proceed tomorrow

[David G Dawson]

Extra Coil Math

John, David,
Thanks.
Will get some data together with what works and what doesn't with pics but will probably wait until the new coil is built which should compliment the theory and CSNotes.
We appear to be very limited here as to what we can display with reference to pdfs other than providing URLs which is not always possible and why I use the Yahoo 'n6kph' site for that singular purpose.

Smokey

[Sparks]

I found Dollards description of a Tesla wave as being one of infinite amplitude and infintesimal wavelength very insightful. According to physics the energy carried in a wave is inversely proportional to it's wavelength. Given that a Tesla wave has no wavelength we put a zero in the equation. Taking a sinsoudial wave and time compressing it we get a Tesla wave. If the parent wave has energy of 1 then the wave modified will now have 1 times the amplitude which is infinity. No matter what you plug in as the energy of the first wave your answer is going to be infinity. So the Tesla wave is not really a wave. It looks more like what you would find in an electrostatic field or a description of a force. Now imagine an ocean wave which is 10foot from crest to peak and the gallons in a 10 section of wave 1000 gallons. The wavelength shortens to say 1 foot. The mass involved stays the same but the amplitude goes to 100 feet, The wave now can fill up a tanker 30 feet up and inland, whereas before it would have just dissipated rolling pepples up and down the beach.

[Nhopa]

T. H. Moray

I am member of this forum since last summer. This is the "energetic forum" yet I have not seen one reference to or comment on T.H. Moray's experiment. He was Tesla's contemporary and thinking along much the same lines as Tesla. One of Dr. Moray's publication is called "Beyond the Light-Rays, Explanations of Oscillations of Radiant Energy". There is more information at rexresearch.com about Thomas Henry Moray's "The Sea of Energy". Any comments?

[amigo]

I'm disappearing into the bushes for an indefinite period of time. I'm not really planning to come back out. I will no longer have internet access, so question and answer time is over. I plan to install the PRC 47 in the beginning of next month.

73 DE N6KPH SK

Hi Eric,

Is this something we've done that made you do this, or your are just tired and need a break?

I'd hate to have to start another "Peter, whatever happened to Eric P. Dollard?" thread 10 years from now to get your attention again.

Saying that you won't have internet access means you won't be around internet cafes, libraries, or other free public terminals? Perhaps you could still come out of the bushes to at least drop us a note or two every once in a while?

Please don't discard the entire humanity because of your past (bad) experiences with a considerably small number of people that interacted with you in a negative manner.

Lastly, if I may humbly suggest, spend some time exploring one's self (within) as well, working to rid of that anger that's so prevalent in some of your posts. Honestly, it does not help you at all, and just drains life energy that you could focus elsewhere, on more productive things.

Thank you for finding the will to get on the Internet and teach us some of your life's work.