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  • Hello everybody,

    so many insightful posts! I don't know where to begin.

    Thank you David for putting up the link to Kron's book "Tensors for Circuits". It will probably be 90% over my head, but many a time an interesting tidbit may be found even for an amateur as myself.

    This discussion around the Integratron is really fascinating. Perhaps Mr. Dollard could jump in and tell us what exactly were the functions of the Integratron.

    Van Tassel mentions in his book "When the Stars Look Down" rejuvenation and longevity as one of the possible functions. Then there is the communication aspect, etc.

    I wonder how would this rejuvenation and longevity via the Integratron look like? Would this mean that one would have to visit the Integratron over a certain time span in order to achieve the desired effect?

    Mr. Dollard, could you please tell us more about this?

    Van Tassel writes in his book "When the Stars Look Down" on page 174 (Chapter "The Integratron"):

    The purpose of the "Integratron" is to recharge energy into living cell structure, to bring about longer life with youthful energy.
    There is also something else that attracted my attention in Van Tassel's book, namely (page 177 - Chapter "The Integratron"):

    Our principle of operation is as simple as applying Lakhovskys multiple wave oscillation to Barnothys magnetic fields saturated with Teslas ionization to charge Dr. George Criles cell bateries. Our method of control is through a time function of frequency from zero time to infinity. This is our contribution. The schematic circuitry is a hundred times simpler than in a television set.
    The underlined sentences really struck me. A time function of frequency from zero time to infinity? Mr. Dollard, do you perhaps know what became of this schematic circuitry that Van Tassel is mentioning? How would it fit into the greater Integratron structure? Did Van Tassel make any notes or have any notebooks and if so, what became of them?

    In connection with the Integratron I would have an idea how Mr. Dollard could acquire additional financial means. If he would write a book on the Integratron from the perspective of an electrical engineer along with his personal experiences while working there, then a suitable publisher could perhaps publish it. The sales from the book might then generate a steady stream of money for Mr. Dollard.

    Mr. Dollard, you also made the following more than interesting reference to the Integratron months ago:

    Later on in time, about 1982, the Integratron Installation gained a new superintendent, Donald Floyd Lockwood. (We always referred to him by his last name as in the Navy). Lockwood has now a problem to solve, this is where to find an engineer who can figureout how to make this extra-terrestrial apparatus work, with no blueprints or design formulae. Well, I wish you luck!

    One day Lockwood entered the galley of the Navy LSM I was working at the Richmond Yard. He had got wind of a “Certain Naval Electrical Engineer” that may be the one to “finish the dome”. Lockwood tells me that he has just come from Mt. Shasta where he had met with a lady who “walked out of the mountain”. She had given him a symbol, or diagram, and this would prove the identity of the engineer. Before I could get pissed off he puts the diagram next to my open notebook on the “Symbolic Representation of A.C. Waves”, page six. The diagram on page six and his were IDENTICAL!
    Source:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post184837

    Did Donald Lockwood meet this lady from Mt. Shasta in a vision i.e. was it a visionary experience or did he meet her physically? Did Mr. Lockwood ever mention the exact location on Mt. Shasta where did he meet the lady? Was this just a one-time experience or did he meet her several times?

    Donald Lockwood must have been one heck of an interesting guy.

    Recently you made another interesting observation in connection with electric signals trapped in time:

    The notion came about in my Bell telephone education that the original Fourier concept included backward time frequencies, but these have been ignored to placate the Einsteiner. My Bell telephone research at the Landers installation further indicates a back in time wave exists in the study of broadband carrier telephone systems. Is it not a coincidence that Van Tassel says this in kind of a round about way? Quite possibly his co-workers were on to something. Consider this observation. A television signal several years old broadcast in America, is received in England. How did this happen? The Einsteiner comes up with many explanations but none that can work. My own theory is this: some disorder in the tuning of VHF television power amplifier energizing the broadcast antenna gave rise to a parasitic oscillation.This could be like that of the Caduceus oscillator, possibly, and launched itself through time into the future. To me that is just as plausible as the other theories of bouncing around in space for years, this being unlikely because of its transit attenuation.
    Source:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ollard-18.html

    Please consider this article: http://english.pravda.ru/society/ano.../6421-ghost-0/

    It is quite a bit on the woo-woo side, but still. This paragraph looks especially interesting:

    Henry Silanov uses unconventional cameras to take photographs of the past. Object-glasses are usually covered with a thin layer of magnesium fluoride to filter the ultra-violet part of the spectrum. However, Silanov believes this is the exactly the frequency, which allows the film to fix 'the memory of the field.' The scientist uses this term, because there is no better definition for the time being. Henry Silanov thinks space is a huge hologram filled with information about everything that was ever placed or moved in it. Certain conditions make it possible to 'turn the memory of space on.'
    Source:

    http://english.pravda.ru/society/ano.../6421-ghost-0/

    Sputins, you said:

    I have also been blown away. gob-smacked by the Electric universe together with the Gravity model you presented, the hollow Earth & planets with a "Farnsworth Star" inside.
    Ditto, Sir! I too was blown away when Mr. Dollard started writting about this. Why? Because we have here a brilliant electrical engineer with rich practical experience who thinks in a very sober fashion. If he says something like this, then I always pay attention.

    Dave, your post about the Integratron and Wheels of Destiny also caught my attention. You said:

    I place this device as being close to the Integratron as the designer quotes producing a 'ring of thunderstorms', which I have been able to replicate but also Alien visitors and other mystical manifestations.
    As far as we know, this is the only device of its type on this Planet and the designer has asked me not to use but am now obtaining permission as I would like to see what manifests at a frequency of 404.59 hertz, Earth resonance - Time Travel?
    Whenever I have run this device he has reported high winds in his area of New Mexico and thus the reason why he does not want me to rotate.
    I was naturally drawn to this device by the mention of thunderstorms which fitted into my Aetheric Weather Engineering work.
    Can see the Integratron as being a vehicle to also supply rain to the SW USA Deserts.
    Aetheric Weather Engineering? You mean the methods used by Trevor Constable?

    Tell us more about these Wheels of Destiny. How did the man you know come to make this invention? What parallels do you see with the Integratron and Mr. Dollard's work?

    Boy oh boy is this thread going into overdrive.

    Cousin Itt

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    • Originally posted by garrettm4 View Post
      I've had some very interesting things happen with neon bulbs in some of my experiments.

      Here's an outline of some personal observations:

      Blue/white.. Explosion, complete destruction of neon bulb glass cracked sometimes explosively, carbon electrode melted (has 3500C melting point!) The brightness is extreme and quite startling, something that you don't forget easily. Everything "solid-state" in circuit path is annihilated.

      Blue.......... Near failure, dangerous, good indication of extreme impulse passing through. I have never been able to examine the bulb for long enough to see if this is a ball plasma condition like the purple state. Generally, the circuit in which the bulb was shunting the energy away from fails epically, notably the switching power transistor and any power diodes present.

      Purple........ Ball plasma, quite stable if driven right, ball will float around but will stay within the confines of tube. Doesn't matter if it touches electrodes or not. Ironically bulb will remain quite cool but black sputterings appear where the ball plasma resides (electrode evaporation?). No failure of control circuit observed during many observations of this state.

      Red............ Extreme over-current, bulb will fail quite quickly, if not in seconds.

      Orange-red.. Over-current, operating at elevated currents, bulb will fail if left in this condition for too long.

      Orange-pink. Operating in normal region, current is limited to safe levels, will operate indefinitely in this condition.

      Unusual effects are seen with gas discharge tubes, neon's and what not in impulse applications. I find the purple ball plasma and the blue light just before failure to be the most interesting. To get the ball plasma you need impulses of incredibly short duration and high potential, inductive discharges are the best. Frequency doesn't have to be that high, a few hertz can stimulate the ball plasma formation, but higher frequency causes greater stability. Cadacious windings with opposing currents produce extreme EMFs that can also excite the purple ball plasma state, "common mode" chokes work well in this regard.

      At one time I used the neon bulbs for over voltage protection in special circuits (diodes couldn't be used and bi-TVS had too much capacitance) and found them to be too slow. I now use MOVs which are much faster at switching. For those who are looking for the lowest shunt capacitance, the micro arc-gap surge suppressors from KOA Speer are an interesting solution to transient over voltage control, I've forgotten their response time but they are vastly superior to neon's and have less capacity than MOVs. GDTs are useful as well but are quite a bit larger than the micro arc-gaps, although they can shunt much more energy. The only problem with the GDTs and spark-gaps is radio noise emission, which can surprisingly be quite disruptive to TV reception and what not.

      Garrett M
      I posted some pictures of the purple white flashes earlier in this thread. A blinding white flash preceded the bright purple/pink glow that destroyed the neons. These are intense from inductive discharges like Garrett described. I began the inductive discharge experiments last year some time when I was trying to duplicate Tesla's basic principles. In his 1893 lecture he describes using inductive discharges to charge capacitors. That's what I did in the pictures. I tried working with Higher Frequency but it was to fast and I could not see/measure anything happening so I slowed it down and ran into the same problems Tesla mentions in his lecture. That being excessively high currents.

      I have worked with the blue/white ball before but after long term production of the ball the neon glass turned black and the effect stopped. I attributed it to the electrodes disintegrating and thought the plasma ball was just flakes of ionized electrode flying around in the neon.

      Tesla and Vassilatos speaks extensively of the induction coil.



      Does any one know if Tesla had two different styles of induction coils. He refers to an induction coil and also refers to a self induction coil.

      Are these the same?
      How are they different?

      jake



      Also a big thanks to Eric and everyone joining the party.

      @ SERG. V
      What Tesla drawing? edit: I see it now. nevermind
      Last edited by jake; 05-26-2012, 02:22 PM. Reason: Im a dope

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      • Integratron QRU

        I have nothing more to say about the Integratron. How much more do you want to piss off a terrible lizard. It would freak most people out. And the shills...

        For those who want to take it to the deep fringe find copies of the paper called "Pheonix Liberator". Lockwood always had the latest issue.

        It was Roy Stolti who was given the task of unifying the information on the Integratron. "He cam to help Eric", just like the rest. The Landers material is lost.

        And as for the "Kunts" that hold the remains of the Integratron, watch out, they can be treacherous, with their "Black Rangers". And at the same time they are so spiritual, so Zen, and enlightened, (by Lucifer). Their hypnotic power could convince you to kiss your dog's rear end! So what do you want me to say? Should I get even more pissed off?

        73 DE N6KPH QRT
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        • Neon Lamps

          Neon glow lamps like the Ne-2 are micro-ampere devices, therefore it should be no wonder that they explode on 10 amps. What do you expect them to do, create free energy?

          The spectral lines of neon are numerous. One of them is blue. This is the color neon can be expected to glow under longitudinal circumstances. My work in the Navy showed me that neon bulbs glow blue in the VHF radio frequency fields. In certain experiments involving impulses a blue color was obtained. In other experiments the neon would turn orange after the power was removed, and the lamp would continue to glow as if connected to a 100 micro ampere DC source.

          There are a few easy ways to get neon tubes, the best is to find a neon sign shop and have them make a 6 inch tube for you. It will be good for an average current of 60 milli amperes. Another is laboratory spectral tubes of various inert gasses. Then we have violet ray tubes still around in a few places also. Perhaps a Sarnoff out there can have a neon shop make several dozen of these and then sell them on e-bay to interested experimenters. This would be a good effort, and a profit can be made.

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          • Nhopa post #528

            Here is the info on your extra coil:

            26 cm diameter, 82 cm M.L.T.

            124 turns gives 101 meters of total wire length.

            For a frequency of 932 Kc/sec the quarter wave for the velocity of light is 80 meters. Hence your coil is operating at 126 percent luminal velocity. Next for a frequency of 840 Kc/sec the quarter wave for the velocity of light is 89 meters. Hence your coil is now operating at 113 percent luminal velocity.

            In post number 404 I gave all necessary formulae for calculation of coil operation. In table 2 is coil velocity. Your aspect ratio is 73 percent and the corresponding free space velocity is 170 percent luminal. Therefore the ratio of your measured velocity to the free space velocity will give the effective dielectric constant Epsilon. This gives the experimentally determined correction factor to the basic design equation.

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            • Originally posted by T-rex View Post
              Neon Lamps

              Neon glow lamps like the Ne-2 are micro-ampere devices, therefore it should be no wonder that they explode on 10 amps. What do you expect them to do, create free energy?

              The spectral lines of neon are numerous. One of them is blue. This is the color neon can be expected to glow under longitudinal circumstances. My work in the Navy showed me that neon bulbs glow blue in the VHF radio frequency fields. In certain experiments involving impulses a blue color was obtained. In other experiments the neon would turn orange after the power was removed, and the lamp would continue to glow as if connected to a 100 micro ampere DC source.

              There are a few easy ways to get neon tubes, the best is to find a neon sign shop and have them make a 6 inch tube for you. It will be good for an average current of 60 milli amperes. Another is laboratory spectral tubes of various inert gasses. Then we have violet ray tubes still around in a few places also. Perhaps a Sarnoff out there can have a neon shop make several dozen of these and then sell them on e-bay to interested experimenters. This would be a good effort, and a profit can be made.

              73 DE N6KPH
              No not expecting them to do anything other than discharge, it was unexpected as neon does not have blue/purple spectral lines. These are the known spectral lines of neon,
              540.1 green
              585.2 yellow
              588.2 yellow
              603.0 orange
              607.4 orange
              616.4 orange
              621.7 red-orange
              626.6 red-orange
              633.4 red
              638.3 red
              640.2 red
              650.6 red
              659.9 red
              692.9 red
              703.2 red
              Mercury & Helium have blue spectral lines.

              I was more curious as to what form of energy would cause the color discharge. I even went so far as to charge a 1.5uF 250v cap up to 145v and discharge it through the neon bulb, it flashed a bright red but no blue/purple glow. The odd color is attainable in a seemingly random pattern, some times it requires grounding the same side of the circuit that it was grounded on, i.e. remove and re-attach, then it flips and requires the other, then at times it'll flash again after the capacitor is completely discharged, as though the first flash created a massive negative charge that needed to be balanced again.

              I like the idea of custom made neon tubes, I do believe that there are mfgs already for them with noble gases for labs etc.

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              • Originally posted by madhatter View Post
                No not expecting them to do anything other than discharge, it was unexpected as neon does not have blue/purple spectral lines. These are the known spectral lines of neon,
                540.1 green
                585.2 yellow
                588.2 yellow
                603.0 orange
                607.4 orange
                616.4 orange
                621.7 red-orange
                626.6 red-orange
                633.4 red
                638.3 red
                640.2 red
                650.6 red
                659.9 red
                692.9 red
                703.2 red
                Mercury & Helium have blue spectral lines.

                I was more curious as to what form of energy would cause the color discharge. I even went so far as to charge a 1.5uF 250v cap up to 145v and discharge it through the neon bulb, it flashed a bright red but no blue/purple glow. The odd color is attainable in a seemingly random pattern, some times it requires grounding the same side of the circuit that it was grounded on, i.e. remove and re-attach, then it flips and requires the other, then at times it'll flash again after the capacitor is completely discharged, as though the first flash created a massive negative charge that needed to be balanced again.

                I like the idea of custom made neon tubes, I do believe that there are mfgs already for them with noble gases for labs etc.
                Forgot to mention cap discharge red/orange. Inductive discharge blue/pruple.

                Mercury Spectra:


                That looks about right.


                Neon Spectra:


                photos from : Atomic Spectra
                Last edited by jake; 05-27-2012, 02:35 AM. Reason: dope

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                • The color I'm getting is a brilliant white tinged blue/purple with an ultraviolet spike.

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                  • Now we have a problem. The neon glows blue but doesn't have a blue spectral line. I dont know what to say about this but apparently there is some kind of counterspace spectrum, possibly?

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                    • It was originally posted by David Dawson. I am building something similar to this. In the book, do you also have pictures of the piece of equipment the schematic is for?


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                      • Neon

                        Some thoughts on observed neon spectra:

                        Although my usage and observations of the Ne-2 type neon bulb was indirect and entirely unrelated to what others have used them for (I was using them for circuit protection, which obviously they were never intended for), I did study the phenomena for quite some time as it was intriguing when I first noticed the odd colors emitted by the tube.

                        I initially noticed the phenomena while hooking up a bulb for the very first time to a DC power supply and got a very short lived purple flash and then the normal orange glow ensued quickly after.

                        The rare times I saw blue or white light emitted was during high energy impulses, which attempted to shunt its self through the Ne-2, resulting in explosive failure of the bulb. It should be noted that the white/blue light preceded a deep red, which indicates an extreme amount of current passing through the bulb. Thus the blue/white light may not be an indicator of destruction, but any red light seen is definitely a dead give away. The red light characteristics can be clearly seen with normal DC input and a variable resistance. As Mr. Dollard has stated Ne-2 bulbs are intended for micro-ampere amounts of current flow. If you exceed the rated current you will see a clear change from orange to red in emitted light, until failure occurs. The only times I ever saw the carbon electrodes melt were during the blue/white flashes with subsequent deep red light, for experimental purposes I applied as much DC current as a bulb could take and never saw the carbon electrodes melt with only the red light emitted.

                        Ironically, I was plagued with the purple spheroids, or plasma balls. While I used the neons for my specific application it was a rare event to not see them form. The circuits I was dealing with at the time were impulse driven inductive rotating machines and also stationary impulsed self-inductances. When the spheroids would form I could rapidly produce "white coatings" on the electrodes used in a water dissociation apparatus, which was filled with distilled water. Where the white coating came from, when using distilled water, is still a mystery. I should note that gas production was quite low, but the coating process was quite rapid, after 2 to 3 hours I would have a "printer paper" thick coating.

                        The exact same effects were noted with GDTs (gas discharge tubes) sold by "Little Fuse", I am unsure what gas they used but presumably it was neon due to the equivalent effects seen.

                        All of the above seems normal to me having seen and dealt with it first hand, but I still find it quite odd that blue and purple light are emitted while not being part of the normal spectral lines. This might be a good research project for anyone going to school in this field. You may get to name a new phenomena after yourself, if you can figure it all out.

                        Garrett M
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                        • Originally posted by garrettm4 View Post
                          Some thoughts on observed neon spectra:

                          Although my usage and observations of the Ne-2 type neon bulb was indirect and entirely unrelated to what others have used them for (I was using them for circuit protection, which obviously they were never intended for), I did study the phenomena for quite some time as it was intriguing when I first noticed the odd colors emitted by the tube.

                          I initially noticed the phenomena while hooking up a bulb for the very first time to a DC power supply and got a very short lived purple flash and then the normal orange glow ensued quickly after.

                          The rare times I saw blue or white light emitted was during high energy impulses, which attempted to shunt its self through the Ne-2, resulting in explosive failure of the bulb. It should be noted that the white/blue light preceded a deep red, which indicates an extreme amount of current passing through the bulb. Thus the blue/white light may not be an indicator of destruction, but any red light seen is definitely a dead give away. The red light characteristics can be clearly seen with normal DC input and a variable resistance. As Mr. Dollard has stated Ne-2 bulbs are intended for micro-ampere current flow. If you exceed the rated current you will see a clear change from orange to red in emitted light, until failure occurs. The only times I ever saw the carbon electrodes melt were during the blue/white flashes with subsequent deep red light, for experimental purposes I applied as much DC current as a bulb could take and never saw the carbon electrodes melt with only the red light emitted.

                          Ironically, I was plagued with the purple spheroids, or plasma balls. While I used the neons for my specific application it was a rare event to not see them form. The circuits I was dealing with at the time were impulse driven inductive rotating machines and also stationary impulsed self-inductances. When the spheroids would form I could rapidly produce "white coatings" on the electrodes used in a water dissociation apparatus, which was filled with distilled water. Where the white coating came from, when using distilled water, is still a mystery. I should note that gas production was quite low, but the coating process was quite rapid, after 2 to 3 hours I would have a "printer paper" thick coating.

                          The exact same effects were noted with GDTs (gas discharge tubes) sold by "Little Fuse", I am unsure what gas they used but presumably it was neon due to the equivalent effects seen.

                          All of the above seems normal to me having seen and dealt with it first hand, but I still find it quite odd that blue and purple light are emitted while not being part of the normal spectral lines. This might be a good research project for anyone going to school in this field. You may get to name a new phenomena after yourself, if you can figure it all out.

                          Garrett M
                          The blue/white flashes are common in pulsed magnet motors, However they stop after a few hours. The neon is used as transistor protection on Bedini type circuits.
                          I even saw them with only one wire touching the plastic of the battery.

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                          • Impulse

                            It was originally posted by David Dawson. I am building something similar to this. In the book, do you also have pictures of the piece of equipment the schematic is for?

                            jpolakow,
                            Smokey please.
                            I posted the first 7 Chapters of the MIT book at 'n6kph' for all to download as there was no direct URL to Post.
                            Chapter 5 'Particular Applications' is what you are after and yes, there are many pictures but not of good quality but more schematics also.

                            I was going to upload further Chapters but that depended on interest shown.
                            Let me know if you want more as there are 16 Chapters in total plus the housekeeping.

                            Chapter 4 'Driver Circuits' will also be of interest.

                            Smokey

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                            • Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
                              It was originally posted by David Dawson. I am building something similar to this. In the book, do you also have pictures of the piece of equipment the schematic is for?

                              jpolakow,
                              Smokey please.
                              I posted the first 7 Chapters of the MIT book at 'n6kph' for all to download as there was no direct URL to Post.
                              Chapter 5 'Particular Applications' is what you are after and yes, there are many pictures but not of good quality but more schematics also.

                              I was going to upload further Chapters but that depended on interest shown.
                              Let me know if you want more as there are 16 Chapters in total plus the housekeeping.

                              Chapter 4 'Driver Circuits' will also be of interest.

                              Smokey
                              If you go over to archive.org and search Glasoe, you'll find the book Pulse Generators. It's a BIG book but worth having. That should be the same MIT book.

                              As it's volume 5 of the LAB series I'd love to see what the others are.

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                              • Originally posted by T-rex View Post
                                Now we have a problem. The neon glows blue but doesn't have a blue spectral line. I dont know what to say about this but apparently there is some kind of counterspace spectrum, possibly?

                                73 DE N6KPH
                                I wondered the same thing. It also may be a neon fusion or photo-disintegration. need a gieger counter to verify this, would be completely unexpected if this is the case seeing as how einstein math requires ohh 8 solar masses for such an effect, don't expect any mainstream verification or acknowledgement if this was the reason.

                                so neon emits gamma then oxygen-16 + Helium, the Helium combines with Neon to form Magnesium-24 which emits a gamma ray again.
                                Helium and Magnesium definitely has blue spectral lines

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