Donald Smith Meet Eric P. Dollard

[OrionLightShip]

Tell me why this won't work.

[dragon]

Excellent work !

[p75213]

I didn't understand much of the document. Still learning electronic circuits. However I think this video is relevant as it struck a chord with me. I am sure it has already been posted on this thread. But for those that missed it:

Charging By Induction - YouTube

[ewizard]

Wow Orion - that's some great work and putting together Dollard and Don Smith in that way is truly genius. I'm still trying to absorb it all and at this time of night it's probably not going to sink in but I think you really have some brilliant ideas there.

[p75213]

Regarding the "Charging by Induction" video. What would happen if the ground was kept in place and the positively charged rod was constantly moved to and away from the electroscope? Would we not have ac current between the earth and the electroscope?

[xee2]

Tell me why this won't work.

Your circuit is not equivalent to a transmission line. A transmission line works all the way down to DC. Your circuit does not (DC blocked by capacitors).

[broli]

Electrostatic induction is a feeble effect which basically just shifts the present electrons so I don't know how much voltage that alone would produce. However what if you grounded the to be induced object, suddenly you would have a vast source of electrons (the earth) that are sucked up in your object due to induction.

[wyndbag]

hasnt anyone tried this?

Some ideas seem too simple. Hook your capacitor to the ground, pump the high voltage/high frequency to one side of the capacitor and collect the dividends out of the ground? It is like finding free money. it couldnt be that simple could it?

[p75213]

Some ideas seem too simple. Hook your capacitor to the ground, pump the high voltage/high frequency to one side of the capacitor and collect the dividends out of the ground? It is like finding free money. it couldnt be that simple could it?

That's pretty much what the video is telling me.

[dragon]

I was in a hurry last night and hadn't seen page 3 of your doc. I think you'll find the plates will behave a bit differently when connected to an external load or source of electrons. With the connections shown the electrons will move from one plate to another making the plates an opposite polarity from the ones around it ( + - + - ) instead of simply separating the charge in the individual plates. When the primary charged plate is neutral all the plates would return to neutral through the connections. An AC input would move charges from one plate to another as the charges are seeking balance. In order to actually create a useful charge you'll need an external source of electrons ( such as a good ground connection - large mass - antenna etc ).

[OrionLightShip]

In order to actually create a useful charge you'll need an external source of electrons ( such as a good ground connection - large mass - antenna etc ).

Very astute of you dragon. Firstly, the connections will not be as shown. The charges will be taken off when the induced voltage is at it's peak.

A second aspect is use as an electron pump using the earth as both sink and source.

And there is one more aspect to this that takes a lot of thought and time to realize.

Thank you for commenting, your feedback is appreciated!

Orion

[OrionLightShip]

Some ideas seem too simple. Hook your capacitor to the ground, pump the high voltage/high frequency to one side of the capacitor and collect the dividends out of the ground? It is like finding free money. it couldnt be that simple could it?

You're on track...at least one of them.

[OrionLightShip]

Your circuit is not equivalent to a transmission line. A transmission line works all the way down to DC. Your circuit does not (DC blocked by capacitors).

It isn't my circuit. Credit goes to Eric P. Dollard.

It isn't made to be, or used for a transmission line.

It does however get high freqency high voltage at the business end without using big coils.

Orion

[OrionLightShip]

Wow Orion - that's some great work and putting together Dollard and Don Smith in that way is truly genius. I'm still trying to absorb it all and at this time of night it's probably not going to sink in but I think you really have some brilliant ideas there.

Thanks my friend. High praise coming from you.

Orion

[boguslaw]

This is not simple. The problem is to trap electrons because they will return to ground when you shut off positive HV . Ground connection must be controlled. Wasn't that the same which Don Smith stated ?