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  • madhatter
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    Originally posted by Tenaus View Post
    I have a question for Eric. I don't have the opportunity to go to those QA phone calls, so if someone could ask him this if they have the chance I would appreciate it.

    Why are you calling the math "Versor" algebra? Versors are the algebraic form of quanternion math, which was the type originally used by Maxwell. Heaviside improved upon Maxwell's equations, but he did so using vectors. Steinmetz did develop this entire new system of mathematics, but they are not versors. They are called phasors by the contemporary engineering/physics community, and are used all the time. So, with the math being called phasors, why not call them phasors yourself? The term versor is a misnomer and it then allows people to assume that you don't know much of anything because they believe erroneously that you work on a form of math which is completely different than what you actually do work with.

    And another question, which also bothers me:

    Why the use of the term dielectric as what contemporary physics calls the electric? It makes sense to me, however, it is consensus from Maxwell, to Faraday, to Tesla and others to call the dielectric field the electric field, and the combined dielectric and magnetic fields, the electromagnetic. Only Steinmetez has insisted on calling the field "dielectric". So why do you, when almost all, save Steinmetz, call it the dielectric, when people know it as the electric? It only serves to confuse people and this results in them disbelieving in your work.
    Versors are also in linear algebra, however given the context and Erics informal education I'd also assume that it's stemmed from quaternions as well. that said though a couple yrs ago there was a discussion on this between me and a couple others on quaternions and Erics stance is that quaternions are nfg.

    Early on I took a step back and instead of honing in on the technical irregularities and differences from Eric's notes and works to mainstream physics, I looked at what he was trying to convey, where he was coming from and then set about reading up on the books and references he gave. It was then that I was able to get where he was coming from, the confusion over terms is a roadblock to mainstream science, now weather that's is intentional or just a by product of his autodidact education, I can't say.

    For most that are not educated in a formal setting they would never know, for those who have been, present company included, it was honestly at first a bit of a roadblock, sure I could have simply discarded all of it as balderdash and moved past it for technical and prejudicial reasons, but that's not really fair to science when in the case of Eric, the proof is in the pudding with his lab work and hands on experience that has been able to re-create Tesla's work.

    It was really for that reason I took a deeper look into what Eric has written and spent some time going over it, there is/was another poster here who's a mathematics professor and we spent a fair amount of time going over his work, took some back and forth correlation to current physics and mathematics but it panned out.

    for what it's worth I still hold that quaternions are better suited to the task of the electric field in hyper-dimensional planes.

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  • Richard Saunders
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    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
    Engineering analysis of the Colorado Springs Tesla Magnifying Transformer . . . with the material hereby provided the Colorado Springs Tesla Transformer can be scaled down to any convenient size for experimentation. This setup is now quantified. . . . -- E. Dollard
    November 5, 1903

    Dear Mr. Morgan:-

    The enclosed bears out my statement made to you over a year and a half ago. The old [Colorado Springs] plant has never worked beyond a few hundred miles. Apart of imperfections of the apparatus design there were four defects, each of which was fatal to success. It does not seem probable that the new plant will do much better, for these faults were of a widely different nature and difficult to discover.

    As to the remedies, I have protected myself in applications filed 1900-1902, still in the office.

    Yours faithfully,
    N. Tesla

    • ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUMS, May 16, 1900, U.S. Patent No. 787,412, Apr. 18, 1905.
    • APPARATUS FOR TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY, Jan. 18, 1902, U.S. Patent 1,119,732, Dec. 1, 1914.

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  • Tenaus
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    Originally posted by thedude View Post
    I don't know if Eric will be around to answer your question Tenaus. As far as Versors vs Phasors, I don't know what he would say there. However you can't really call the dielectric field the electromagnetic field as it absolutely is defined as only one part of the electromagnetic field and propagates in a completely different way than than its counter part, the magnetic field.
    Sorry, you misunderstand me (or I screwed up when typing, which is common). I understand what the dielectric field is.

    So breaking down the distinction of the dielectric force within the electromagnetic field would be ignoring half of the equation in my opinion.
    Yes it would be, however, I'm not saying they forget it entirely. They just define the terms differently. This is how it works:

    Eric's Terms | Physic's Terms

    Dielectric field = Electric field / Electro-static field

    Electric field = Electromagnetic field


    I think the fact that contemporary physicists simply wish to just refer to dielectric field AS the electric field altogether, might serve as an explanation for why so few discoveries are actually made within that contemporary realm as well as their inability to consider utilizing the BEMF component of electricity (generally speaking). I'm pretty sure if Eric is referring to the dielectric, he means the dielectric implicitly and not a pseudonym for electricity in general.
    There is simply a different definition of the words used. Unless I misunderstand, and the electric field of which Eric refers to is not the EM field.

    No, I don't believe that because of this there are so little discoveries. That is like saying those who speak Latin are smarter because they are more original than us, and they speak Latin. There is a different understanding to two different things between Eric's and Physic's ideas of the dielectric field, and this is partly what causes their mediocrity.

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  • Aether
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    San Francisco power outage darkens 38,000 :: SFBay

    I guess Eric is really unto something when he says the Electrical Power Distribution System is literally failing.

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  • john_g
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    Originally posted by energybat View Post
    Hello All at energetic forum

    My name is Geoffrey Miller and I have been following your form from the beginning. I have been working with electricity for over 45 years, at this point after seeing what has been happening on the free energy forms I have now decided to show some of the projects that I’ve been working on.

    This is first time officially I’m going public with some of my work, on a free energy website. ( I did a test on one other free energy site about four or five days ago and about 6 months ago)

    Over the years I’ve met a lot of the key free energy people and have worked with them behind-the-scenes. I have two websites for everybody to take a look at.

    The first website is a new patented product that I invented to be sold in the marketplace to bring in a cash flow to allow me continue to work at my lab so I can bring out a New type of generator that will run your home independently of the grid system.

    The financial people decided to withdraw funding at the production level for the new product roll out at Home Depot. At that point I lost my living quarters, cars, trucks and everything else. I’ve been living out of my car and taking showers at a friend’s house for the past eight months.

    I’ve relocated my lab and started to get back to work on some key projects that will produce cold electricity and hot electricity for home use and transmission of electricity through the earth.

    At this point I’m considering putting the information into the hands of everybody in an open source way!

    I think after Mr. Eric Dollard's situation that has occurred I want to let people know that there is hope for device that will work in your home and provide electricity for yourself and your family.

    I’ve duplicated Mr. Dollard's work back in the 1980s and I’ve gone past it and have duplicated other experimenters work as well, my reference library has over 8,000 books / videos and papers.

    I’ve also duplicated other people’s work to see whether their devices worked or did not work.

    My definition of duplicating a person’s device or experiment is to build it! And to see whether it works or not, it is that simple.

    I’ve also duplicated ALL of Mr. Tesla’s Colorado Springs tests, and have built his equipment. see project #5

    My Laboratory dimensions that I rent are 25’ wide x 25’ high x 40’ long, two floors I also have two 40’ cargo containers filled with equipment.

    My workday is as follows, four hours working at a five dollar job in the morning to pay for gas, and the some of the lab rent. And then working the rest of the day and night at the lab seven days a week.

    I am not married and do not have the responsibilities of a family to attend too.

    My main goal is to bring out a device that will run your electrical needs for your home or shop and car.And to deliver plans, pictures and video of a device running.

    Please take a look at the two websites below I am taking a huge security risk at this point, but it is time.

    Note: The energybat.com website has only about 6 work hours building it, it will have more projects added to it, I just wanted to get this information out on this website.

    Website #1: mobileutilitytoolbox.com
    Website #2: energybat.com

    Any questions please give me a call at 215-910-1193

    Thank you and have fun!

    Geoffrey Miller
    Hi Geoffrey

    Welcome! Looks like you have been very busy, I look forward to reading up on all the details.

    Regards

    John

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  • energybat
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    Hello All at energetic forum

    Hello All at energetic forum

    My name is Geoffrey Miller and I have been following your form from the beginning. I have been working with electricity for over 45 years, at this point after seeing what has been happening on the free energy forms I have now decided to show some of the projects that I’ve been working on.

    This is first time officially I’m going public with some of my work, on a free energy website. ( I did a test on one other free energy site about four or five days ago and about 6 months ago)

    Over the years I’ve met a lot of the key free energy people and have worked with them behind-the-scenes. I have two websites for everybody to take a look at.

    The first website is a new patented product that I invented to be sold in the marketplace to bring in a cash flow to allow me continue to work at my lab so I can bring out a New type of generator that will run your home independently of the grid system.

    The financial people decided to withdraw funding at the production level for the new product roll out at Home Depot. At that point I lost my living quarters, cars, trucks and everything else. I’ve been living out of my car and taking showers at a friend’s house for the past eight months.

    I’ve relocated my lab and started to get back to work on some key projects that will produce cold electricity and hot electricity for home use and transmission of electricity through the earth.

    At this point I’m considering putting the information into the hands of everybody in an open source way!

    I think after Mr. Eric Dollard's situation that has occurred I want to let people know that there is hope for device that will work in your home and provide electricity for yourself and your family.

    I’ve duplicated Mr. Dollard's work back in the 1980s and I’ve gone past it and have duplicated other experimenters work as well, my reference library has over 8,000 books / videos and papers.

    I’ve also duplicated other people’s work to see whether their devices worked or did not work.

    My definition of duplicating a person’s device or experiment is to build it! And to see whether it works or not, it is that simple.

    I’ve also duplicated ALL of Mr. Tesla’s Colorado Springs tests, and have built his equipment. see project #5

    My Laboratory dimensions that I rent are 25’ wide x 25’ high x 40’ long, two floors I also have two 40’ cargo containers filled with equipment.

    My workday is as follows, four hours working at a five dollar job in the morning to pay for gas, and the some of the lab rent. And then working the rest of the day and night at the lab seven days a week.

    I am not married and do not have the responsibilities of a family to attend too.

    My main goal is to bring out a device that will run your electrical needs for your home or shop and car.And to deliver plans, pictures and video of a device running.

    Please take a look at the two websites below I am taking a huge security risk at this point, but it is time.

    Note: The energybat.com website has only about 6 work hours building it, it will have more projects added to it, I just wanted to get this information out on this website.

    Website #1: mobileutilitytoolbox.com
    Website #2: energybat.com

    Any questions please give me a call at 215-910-1193

    Thank you and have fun!

    Geoffrey Miller

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  • 7redorbs
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    Eric Dollard Interviewed by Adam Bull on Solomon Radio

    Hello everyone. I decided it was a good idea to find out what Eric Dollard had to say, and listen to his thoughts some. So I interviewed him via telephone-link on the Solomon Radio show. Please find the video and summary below! In this interview Eric speaks about the very rich life he has experienced as an electrician and diverse engineering experience at R.C.A, Navy, Bell Labs, etc.

    Adam Bull interviews Eric Dollard on Solomon Radio - YouTube

    Summary

    Earlier in the studio we interviewed by telelink a very special
    guest exclusively and it is none other than Eric Dollard himself.
    An R.C.A electrician, transmission linesman, also a Bell Labs scientist and Navy Engineer Eric is renowned as being practically the next Tesla.

    And on this show Eric is going to be speaking for the first time about his most recent advances in electrical engineering theory, as well as the other side of radio and electrical history. Many people will be surprised in this interview as Eric reveals many amazing things. Dollard is the next Tesla and the stories he has to tell and events that he has witnessed and endured are rich and revealing in their details of importance.

    Eric Dollards work form a part of an electrical and radio history that an international cabal have wanted to keep secret in the interest of their own. Eric has shared all of his work freely for decades and has taught us all so very much. Eric has an official website now at Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage and Four Quadrant Representation of Electricity by Eric Dollard and needs our help, that is donations to continue contributing with his new presentations, lectures, and book titles, as well as finishing his designs and patents for the brilliant and miraculous technology such as the Cosmic Induction Generator and the Cosmic Ray Detector. Eric speaks with me about Einstein's relativity, radio corporation america, Marconi wireless, the multiple loaded flat top antenna, the velocity of waves and an incredible amount more. Eric talks and proves yet again that as soon as we think we know something about the nature of electricity we are told that we know nothing at all. For instance it might not just be faster than light pi/2 * C discharges of Wheatstone and Tesla that raise the hearts pulse but in fact electricity and radio might not have a velocity at all. That would certainly be the most significant claim by any real scientist or engineer I have ever heard, and what is different about Eric Dollard is for the last 2 decades he has been producing and demonstrating the Tesla machinery to to himself, his friends and the public and he has ultimately paid the price for dedicating himself to create this important knowledge.

    This interview is certainly one not to miss for any R.C.A or Navy Engineer, but it will also be very helpful for any amateur electrician, layman or free energy researcher. Certainly we are left with the sobering idea that electricity may not have a velocity. Shocking. Most shocking, indeed.

    Thanks DE N6KPH ERIC DOLLARD for being kind enough to take time to talk with me on the telephone about his work I for the benefit of many other researchers. I can say for us all that we appreciate you continuing these transmissions and under potentially hard circumstances, and we are looking forward to the forwarding of the CRD (Cosmic Ray Detector) and CSI (Crystal Set Initiative) here at the energetic forum. I remain confident with the objective engineers recreating this work here such as Dr-green, David Dawson, geometric algebra, madhatter and the other dedicated scientists & engineers on this forum the recreation of the non electromagnetic non hertzian non velocity free-space tesla transmission system remains a certainty! Like a tap awaiting the first turn from the first plumbing man learnt of it. Or the first well driller. The cosmos is a very large place, and Eric Dollard with his experience and philosophically wide vision reminds us all, in the way we expect T-Rex to always live up. And in this interview, boy does Eric live up to his knowledge, education , intelligence and Witt.

    I am now hoping that a co-operative effort can continue, and one which has Eric Dollard's approval, since I do believe the whole point of this thread is to help Eric with his work, as a scientist, engineer and human being.


    What the Interviewer "Adam Bull" had to say:


    My respect to all who have helped Eric with their time, money or donations. I hope they can continue helping Eric! Eric clearly is a genius - and has encountered in his deeper history very significantly traumatic events - that is to say from people whom do not appreciate the genius that is Eric.

    For them I am sorry - if those people understood the true importance of the work and the credibility of Eric Dollards' scientific experiments and objectivity, they would limit their help to positively engaging endeavors, that is to attempt facilitate his work any way they could. I for one believe that his man holds the new golden age of electricity, in the same manner that Nikola Tesla did. What else could possibly be more important than that? Hopefully Eric Dollard not a kind of Teslian history repeating, and more can be done to get Eric's important math and science knowledge out to the wider public, without for instance, the same distraction that has held back modern science for about 10,000 years. The resistive force.

    See the interview at: Adam Bull interviews Eric Dollard on Solomon Radio - YouTube

    Thanks again,

    Best,
    A
    Last edited by 7redorbs; 08-07-2013, 10:52 AM.

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  • thedude
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    Originally posted by Tenaus View Post
    I have a question for Eric. I don't have the opportunity to go to those QA phone calls, so if someone could ask him this if they have the chance I would appreciate it.

    Why are you calling the math "Versor" algebra? Versors are the algebraic form of quanternion math, which was the type originally used by Maxwell. Heaviside improved upon Maxwell's equations, but he did so using vectors. Steinmetz did develop this entire new system of mathematics, but they are not versors. They are called phasors by the contemporary engineering/physics community, and are used all the time. So, with the math being called phasors, why not call them phasors yourself? The term versor is a misnomer and it then allows people to assume that you don't know much of anything because they believe erroneously that you work on a form of math which is completely different than what you actually do work with.

    And another question, which also bothers me:

    Why the use of the term dielectric as what contemporary physics calls the electric? It makes sense to me, however, it is consensus from Maxwell, to Faraday, to Tesla and others to call the dielectric field the electric field, and the combined dielectric and magnetic fields, the electromagnetic. Only Steinmetez has insisted on calling the field "dielectric". So why do you, when almost all, save Steinmetz, call it the dielectric, when people know it as the electric? It only serves to confuse people and this results in them disbelieving in your work.
    I don't know if Eric will be around to answer your question Tenaus. As far as Versors vs Phasors, I don't know what he would say there. However you can't really call the dielectric field the electromagnetic field as it absolutely is defined as only one part of the electromagnetic field and propagates in a completely different way than than its counter part, the magnetic field.

    Why refer to electric field as dielectric field? I don't think anyone (especially a physicist) should confuse those two terms in the way your mentioning. Dielectric field is really referring to the electrostatic field lines that emanate from with in the conductor, with outside pressure, under longitudinal wave force(the most interesting part of the electrical phenomenon IMO!). The magnetic field is utilizing radial patterned operational lines of force, outside the conductor and moves under transverse propagation of energy (far more typical and understandable). The two together make up electromagnetic energy, not one or the other alone. So breaking down the distinction of the dielectric force within the electromagnetic field would be ignoring half of the equation in my opinion.

    I think the fact that contemporary physicists simply wish to just refer to dielectric field AS the electric field altogether, might serve as an explanation for why so few discoveries are actually made within that contemporary realm as well as their inability to consider utilizing the BEMF component of electricity (generally speaking). I'm pretty sure if Eric is referring to the dielectric, he means the dielectric implicitly and not a pseudonym for electricity in general.
    Last edited by thedude; 08-06-2013, 09:00 PM.

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by orgonaut314 View Post
    Thanks!

    Is it also necessary to shift the primary with respect to the secondary to experiment with the coupling? I believe Tesla said something about loose coupling?
    Yes, see ARRL Radio Amateur's Handbook section on coupled circuits. If the coupling is too tight then you won't get a resonant "peak" with high selectivity (magnification factor) but a diminished output at the resonant frequency, with peaks above and below the resonant frequency. At optimum coupling the selectivity is lower. But with higher selectivity the output is less etc. You will have to find what works best.
    Last edited by dR-Green; 08-06-2013, 08:07 PM.

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  • orgonaut314
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    Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
    Like that.
    Thanks!

    Is it also necessary to shift the primary with respect to the secondary to experiment with the coupling? I believe Tesla said something about loose coupling?

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by orgonaut314 View Post
    spiral them on top of each other with a thin insulator in between? So the total surface remains 14cm.
    Like that.

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  • orgonaut314
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    Primary coil

    Guys I still have some questions on the primary coil.

    Eric gave these instructions:
    The primary coil is the same diameter as the secondary coil. The ratio of conductor width to coil diameter is 18%.
    If I make a secondary coil 76 cm wide this means the primary is 0,18*76=14cm sheet copper.

    Now my question is if I make two turns should I spiral them on top of each other with a thin insulator in between? So the total surface remains 14cm. Or should I wind them above each other like the secundary wire making the total surface 2*14=28cm? This seems a bit to much

    Thanx!

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  • chazza
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    Old posts reinstated?

    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
    I'm heading back to the bushes and don't know when I'll be back on a computer again. [edit]

    QRT DE N6KPH SK
    Good luck Mr Dollard

    I also went away an hour or so later, and have come back to find that the above post, which was #1129 on page 38 has turned into # 1185 on page 40. Does anyone know what's been added, and where?

    thanks, Chazza

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  • jwpotts
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    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    JWPotts & other new readers:

    This thread is to focus on the word Eric Dollard has shared. We want to keep this thread positive with replication attempts, etc.

    To look at the false allegations with documented facts, please look at this: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...t-muhamed.html all references are given.

    You can post in there about those issues but this thread is to focus on Eric's work. That is a NEW thread and is different from the Ray Savant Techzombie exposed thread.
    Thanks for the heads up Aaron, not an avid poster.....

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  • Aaron
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    recent false allegations

    JWPotts & other new readers:

    This thread is to focus on the word Eric Dollard has shared. We want to keep this thread positive with replication attempts, etc.

    To look at the false allegations with documented facts, please look at this: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...t-muhamed.html all references are given.

    You can post in there about those issues but this thread is to focus on Eric's work. That is a NEW thread and is different from the Ray Savant Techzombie exposed thread.

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