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According to this datasheet, I would guess that the trigger V would be around 110V.
http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/049/0/0A4G.pdf
I also surmise that the anode voltage and trigger voltage are interactive.
This 1938 tech is very clunky. Why not use an SCR or a mosfet with a resistive voltage divider and zener diode to calibrate the trigger voltage to whatever you want?
Sometimes its a good thing when "they don't make 'em like they used to"!!
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voltage vs time?
I was wondering how long it took to attain those voltages.
Were you using ambient light or some other light source?
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Tests ! & 2
The Chart went missing so have it below.
Tried to edit that page but no edit available??
Smokey
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EPD Test 1 & 2 CRD
EPD Test 1 & 2 'Cosmic Ray Detector':
John, David,
Would you please see that Eric receives this data for Test 1 on the 'Cosmic Ray Detector' and hope this is what he is after.
Three of the readings are what I would call 'out of range' at the very bottom and top of the scale but others allow a good qualification of the test.
Knife Switch works well and allows for easy testing where you need to charge a capacitor and then redirect it into another circuit.
Started Test 2 but is not working as I would have expected and the OA4G sometimes lights but other times will not and requires a full power down and back up again but will continue tomorrow.
Caps below 1,000 pF were not happy and reluctant to fire the OA4G but the 4,700 and 10,000 pF were good.
Interesting to note the difference in the plasma of the OA4G as in Test 1 the area would have been only about a 3 mm circle of light blue in various places above the dome but in Test 2 is a full violet corona above the dome as in the 3rd picture.
Corona in all situations extinguished at 69 volts DC.
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Results Chart:
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Overall setup Test 1:
Actual Test area with Knife Switch which works well and the Inductance/Capacitance meter is from an IC Kit which I have placed into a case.
Test 2:
Does Eric have a computer we can talk to as yet and asked this question earlier but have had no answer as it would make data transfer just that much simpler?
Thanks.
Smokey
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Eric Dollard update
Eric's presentation will be available within a couple weeks. A few months later, a companion book will be available.
I'm still getting things organized since the conference and will post more soon.
To let everyone know, Eric is doing extremely well and I'll leave it at that for now.
There are quite a few things coming together so stay tuned...
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The Pheonix Liberator
The Pheonix Liberator:
Going back through the Archives of Eric P Dollard Forums (now 3) and we are talking of George Van Tassel and 'Lockwood' and had made a previous attempt to find Archives of 'The Pheonix Liberator' without success but now fully available:
The Phoenix Archives -- TRUTH's Warehouse On The Web
FourWinds10 -- Phoenix Journals
Notice that many of the magazines have been 'Banned' - 22/30/31/32/33/34/35/36/37/& 47.
Hitting the 'Download' button will give you a '404' so hit the 'View pdf file' instead and then save.
I am currently reading 33 as it is headed 'Atomic Suicide' and in sympathy with Walter Russell.
What brought me here was the old realisation that we are being looked after by beings who have insights into everything now and previously happening and that is also with the case of 'Lockwood' and Eric Dollard and Page 6 of the 'Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave'.
This is not a simple coincidence but part of a much bigger picture and the 'Liberator' will clearly show that influence.
Notes on a Hollow Earth by Eric Dollard
Edwin Erst are you here?
Would like to hear more of your exploits.
Have a similar idea as yours to Gravity which Eric covered in his 'Hollow Earth' theory and I believe it to be an electric attraction and not of a mass or physical nature.
There are simply too many reports of special focussed individuals being able to levitate to ignore that it is not associated with electrics and more specifically - electrostatics or natural electricity - and just as in a UFO with a DC on top and an AC below.
Every cell in our body is a battery and generates about 70uV, so why wouldn't our attraction to the Earth be of an electric nature if we are of a positive polarity in air.
Why is it that we all glow with our individual unseen auras, is that not an Aetheric response showing our true voltage potential?
Why on death is the body some 16 ounces lighter, is that not the weight of the Aether/Spirit that has left the body?
Why do they tell you to walk barefoot - so that your potential is highlighted such that you feel lighter and more relaxed and more in contact with the grounding system.
Why did Viktor Grebennikov levitate and what did he actually do to his pedestal machine to make it raise from the ground?
I was searching for all of the George Van Tassel material and you can find that at Page 24 of the 'Eric P_Dollard' Forums and for the Lakhovsky MWO is in 'Eric Dollard' Forum on Page 3.
Thanks John and Eric.
I should also mention that there is so much information here in these 3 volumes of Eric P Dollard that I missed quite a deal and is most worthy of reviewing when you can get the time.
Smokey
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Erics presentation
Would someone here please update when the release of his presentation is available as I would love to see what he had to say. I have watched this man in action and he has a mind that is far ahead. So wished I could have been there but job got in the way. This time of year is always booked out far in advance.
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There are capacitors and there are CAPACITORS
Hello Smokey,
There are more parameters to consider than just voltage alone.
The MW caps are built for high power, but not as good as Mica when it comes to leakage. Most , if not all, have a built in bleeder resistor to compound the problem.
As per Tesla, "a dielectric of high quality" is required for that device.
As I mentioned before, the collector plate needs high energy bombardment as illustrated in his patent to be of much use.
Even the coating in those phototubes won't be enough, but it is an interesting idea.
I think solar panels will win the competion, hands down!
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Capacitors & High Voltage
Capacitors & High Voltage:
Once again we see the problem with Vacuum Tubes in today's 'make it small' ideology where we can't buy caps for high voltage around the 0.1uF to 1.0uF range.
Most I see offerred are anything from $30 and upwards for a single item.
All I was attempting to do here was Eric's tests for the 'Cosmic Ray Detector' in using caps in the range of 0.1uF to 0.5uF but with voltage ratings of up to 10kV.
I have actually been collecting these for many years and have now a good selection but maximum voltage is about 2 or 3 Kv so you need to series or parallel for the right combination and in such is the problem.
More kV and less capacitance so where do you go?
What is the most common and commercial useage for high kV caps today and the answer is in Microwave Ovens where the caps used are around the 1.0uF mark and AC rated at about 2.1 kV and I have just bought 4 for $24.
Lots of contention here now in ratings for caps between AC and DC use but have personally always used a 40% figure for a DC cap for AC use but now needs refining.
Cornell-Dubilier quote caps from 100 to 1,000 volt DC with AC ratings of 70 and 200 and 50 to 1,000 volt at 30 to 250 volts.
So a figure of about 1/4 to 1/3 at 1,000 volts as a safe operating level so this will make my microwave designed units DC capable for about 2.1 x 3 = 6.3 kV or 2.1 x 4 = 8.4 kV.
Keeping in mind that the ratings are further reduced the higher you go in voltage so will use 5kV DC as my maximum for general use.
However, the manufacturer actually tests these units at 10kV on AC for 10 seconds and DC for 30 seconds and there again is a 1/3 time ratio between DC and AC.
And again there is an indication that the units can be used above their design ratings but only for very brief periods.
Hope this all makes sense in attempting to find caps that fill a particular gap in the use for high voltage with Thyratrons without costing an arm and leg.
Started the tests but find the switch I am using has loud bangs coming from its insides with internal arcing but would like to know why the loud 'bang' noise.
Building a double pole Knife Switch out of scrounged parts will resolve that problem.
Do not consider using motor start types as they are two electrolytics back-to-back and are only designed for short period starting use and with continual use will get hot and explode.
Hope those that have gone to the conference will offer a summary of the events here on this site as some of us are just too far away to have even considered the possibility.
Thanks.
Smokey
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This should be good
Heading to Idaho tomorrow. (went last year too)
I am no mathemetician, physicist, nor electricity pro.
Trying my best to be in same room with the best.
There is so much information, I must gloss over parts.
I am no Tesla. I just hope to see the light.
I AM a machinist, fabricator, hard worker.
I made the coil spark replication of Babcock.
I made the ball bearing motor of SBARC.
I picked the pancake coil of Borderland for my present project.
Picked up much equipment and materials.
The time ran out before I put the double coil together.
I felt proud of my effort.
The recent depth of the reading material here makes me
feel very small.
I will try to post progress as scientifically as I can.
I support your efforts Sir. Keep up the good work.
I have been looking to network with others in the southern ca area
for some time with little luck.
Not many people I know want to talk about anything like this!
Faithfully yours, See you there!
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Cosmic Ray Detector & GLOM
"Cosmic Ray Detector - Do not use the 931 multiplying phototube, a single cathode to space is what is wanted in the place of a Tesla tube. Like a 930".
OK, understand and will keep the PM for Moray.
Don't have a 930 but do have 868 or 927 with similar characteristics.
Something had held me back in doing the tests and was contemplating building a power supply for the PM.
Glom:
Bought a can of 310 x 8mm Carbon rods sheaved in Copper as used in the old movie projectors but note apart from having the brightest of lights, also have an unhealthy UV component.
Wonder how the eyesight is of all the old operators?
Carbon has the highest melting point of all of the Elements at 3600ºC but you never get to see the molten component.
Have been 'told' to buy Carbon but still not clear why.
Have used Carbon successfully in Plasma arcs where there is no visible light and this is to do with both high voltage and frequency and have a notion that there is a magic here when you get to both the right voltage and frequency and that's all I have to go on at this point.
The more individual Carbons the better and the Copper sheath allows for a positive contact.
Tesla indicated that Carbon was a doorway to the 'Warmth Aether' and that is what I am working to.
This is an 'Ion Valve' type device in the making.
"Charles Steinmetz was able to improve on the carbon arc by using magnetite (an iron ore mineral) instead of carbon. The magnetite released iron vapor into the arc. Like many other metal vapors, iron vapor results in a brilliant arc with a characteristic color. Iron arcs are typically a purplish shade of blue-white".
Also managed to buy a Techtronix 585 Oscilloscope multi-tap power transformer with its associated EHT supply and you just cannot buy that quality technology anywhere today.
Some people don't understand this GLOM thing but it is a necessary component of our type of research as we really don't know what we may require and I have collected quite a few vintage bits including many Ultrasonic testers and one from Kelvin & Hughes of Scotland that was similar to the original unit used for detecting the unborn child in the Mother's womb.
Smokey
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Phototubes & Grounds
Cosmic Ray Detector - Do not use the 931 multiplying phototube, a single cathode to space is what is wanted in the place of a Tesla tube. Like a 930.
Ground Wires - Earth returns for a gigawatt power system is a stupid idea. Therefore, the D.W.P. Sylmar Converter no longer works to ground. It is bi-polar, two wires +- 500kv, or 1000kv line to line.
The polarity is reversed now and then to eliminate "electrolytic creeping" into the insulators. The line current is 1000 amp.
The 30 mile ground line with a 1000 amp DC current turns Los Angeles into a giant electromagnet, an obvious NFG. The stray magnetism & currents were phenomenal and could eat away at pipelines and ship hulls.
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Originally posted by Danny B View PostThe average power of a lightning strike is 1.21 gigawatts.
America uses 10,663,013,700 kilowatt hours a day.
A gigawatt is 1 billion watts.
Use is 10,663,013,700,000 WATTS (U.S.)
Supply is 10.4 million, billion watts
Not sure how you get about 1.21 gigawatts ( and in what time dimension ), but with fundamental assumption of 3x10^8 V ( 300 MV), based on 30 kV/cm breakdown of air with 1x10^5 cm length of the discharge ( 1km groud-to-cloud distance ), without consideration of humidity and temperate, and 2x10^4 A ( 20KA ), on average per lightning strike we get 6x10^12 VA. These numbers may change little looking at different sources, but the order will (most likely) stay the same.
Note we have not set the time dimension and now, we have to consider it.
And here we have to make a basic assumption, that most of the power being transferred via a lighting strike is being transferred for at the flash time frame ( the moment we see it). Although, knowing from Tesla ( and Heaviside too), there is energy dissipated through before the breakdown of the dielectric, and in our assumption, put in a such way, it is just is a conservative measure of the power ( but hopefully not by much ). Note that here we even do not touch the question current distribution in time but take it on average.
So now the flash time fame ( moment ) is about 5x10^(-5) s ( 50 microseconds ) so in a lighting strike ( with extremely rude approximation ) we may have 30x10^7 VA/s or about 8.3(3)x10^4 VA/h or 83.3(3) kW/h. Note that this is, with the basic assumptions. Now we have about 100 lighting strikes per seconds ( hitting the ground ) so, 100x3600x24x365 approximately 32x10^9 per year. Rounding up ( in the spirit of fast approximation as Tesla regularly does in his Colorado Springs Notes ), about 3x10^12 kW/h per year ( or 3x10^9 MW/h, or 3x10^6 GW/h, or 3x10^3 TW/h, or 3 PW/h - reading petta-watt-hour ).
I hope this make sense for those interested in having precise calculations.
Please correct if you see some logical or technical discrepancies.
And just a huge speculation here, could there be a connection between the rotation of the Eath and all of the energy being channled to the ground ...
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Ground wires and earth conductivity
Eric has said a lot about transmission of power through the earth. I found a very interesting write up on the ground wires for the nearby Sylmar ABB station.
"The grounding system at Celilo consists of 1,067 cast iron anodes buried in a two foot trench of petroleum coke, which behaves as an electrode, arranged in a ring of 3,255 m (2.02 mi) circumference at Rice Flats (near Rice, Oregon), which is 10.6 km (6.6 mi) SSE of Celilo. It is connected to the converter station by two aerial 644 mm2 steel-reinforced aluminum (ACSR) cables, which end at a strainer"
"The Sylmar grounding system is a line of 24 silicon-iron alloy electrodes submerged in the Pacific Ocean at Will Rogers State Beach[4] suspended in concrete enclosures about one meter above the ocean floor. The grounding array, which is 48 km (30 mi) from the converter station and is connected by a pair of 644 mm2 aluminum conductors"
Pacific DC Intertie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What I also find interesting BUT, suspicious is the fact that power companies want to build a conversion station in Germany. Reportedly, there is a big protest against this station. They are not particularly big or ugly. Why the protest???
Is through-the-earth power transmission a forbidden step to forbidden transmission? Can it tap into telluric currents? What about lightning?
The earth receives about 8,640,000 lightning strikes every day. The average power of a lightning strike is 1.21 gigawatts.
America uses 10,663,013,700 kilowatt hours a day.
A gigawatt is 1 billion watts.
Use is 10,663,013,700,000 WATTS (U.S.)
Supply is 10.4 million, billion watts
Supposedly, the sun charges the ionosphere and the ionosphere discharges to Terra to equalize charges. How would that affect the return path on a 500 Kv transmission system?
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Photomultiplier Handbook
Photomultiplier Handbook:
http://psec.uchicago.edu/links/Photo...r_Handbook.pdf
Was looking for a data sheet on the IP21 and came across the above.
Getting this creepy feeling that what we are looking at here is one of Moray's Vacuum Tubes and this one is the amplifier where he used many to build up the energy (29) but we have it in one Tube or at least 10 steps of amplification and in these grids we have secondary emission taking place and with one I have here, the amplification is 8,000x.
Think I now know where Eric is going with all of this and apologise for taking so long to wake up although I do believe I have mentioned this before with respect to photomultipliers, just didn't consider for the Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD).
Smokey
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