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The music was written in Tesla's time. He may have been sensitive to sound. When he wasn't blasting arcs and so forth.
The video shows some oscilloscope signals that a musician might
visually examine and understand the nature of parasitic waves act in a large motor.
I did'nt want to discuss VFD and especially micro-controllers on Dollard's thread because he prefers to stay with analog
which can be less prone to disasters and unhappy engineers after the smoke test. Set backs are things to avoid.
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Eric Dollard on The Higherside Chats
THE HIGHER SIDE CHATS
Here is an interview of Eric Dollard by Greg Carlwood. This is one of the most popular Podcasts for its category - Eric Dollard on The Higherside Chats - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage
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Thanks for the clarification of subject matter. It is yummy
to my brain matter.
So I looked around to see what was up with sound energy harvesting
and found LED's being lit with stressed crystals or the Stirling engines.
That is a really cool motor. The foot resting on the inner wheel is
a one way push using the vibrating diaphragm and connecting rod.
I would assume that each properly sized collecting chamber would
resonant best at one frequency for producing the greatest mechanical
force in horse power.
I thought about this grain elevator over here and how it roars all day
long. We get 2 quiet days a year, maybe 4 or 5 because the 480 breakers
have to stay kicked in to dry wheat continuously.
If I had a sound engine I could clean up over here.
Mikey
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sound powered generators and motors
Originally posted by mikrovolt View PostQuestions on harmonics how waves join and how to keep the projects from emitting QRM on the neighbors ?
Could a motors run on a harmonic of a mantra healing frequency ?
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0kV_LOq11o[/VIDEO]
If you can combine the sounds to really punch that vibrating plate to get some serious distance in the stroke, should work. Using some low power audio source that mixes the right sounds to get the big impulses and a plate tuned to that impulse, it would run a motor and could put out more work than the sum of the energy in the sounds.
There are sound powered telephones: Sound-powered telephone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So if the sound has that much gain from the mixing, could create even more electricity than the energy in sum of the sounds also.
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Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
next to "Here comes Santa Clause" as the kiddies ice skate
around in a circle. The feeling of wonder.
I saw the motor test and there were no conclusions, no
nothing. Just a 10hp motor running on 27 volts?
I am not sure what this companies job is.
Mikey
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"If they don't come out swinging baseball bats then I guess the music is alright."
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Charles Roland Berry & Robert Emin interviews Eric on Music, Electricity & Harmonics: Music, Electricity & Harmonics - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage
The music side is alternative energy is not easily orchestrated. But it will combine a some point.
The reality with present state of commercial electrical systems is some what of a challenge to integrate.
What can be explored are the less obvious and less understood avenues of sound.
Questions on harmonics how waves join and how to keep the projects from emitting QRM on the neighbors ?
Could a motors run on a harmonic of a mantra healing frequency ?
What are some useful applications for big capacitors in motors and pulse applications ?
Is there low frequency phenomena with earth quakes ?
Does the earth have piezoelectric properties and is there evidence that telluric currents will give significant energy ?
Is there any relationships that sound might have with over-unity or like areas of interests ?
Because the forum grows and learns quickly the hobby RC motors could be one of the platforms to experiment with.
The energetic forum as an audience has different levels of understanding and is well read but most are open to Dollard
as his thinking is some what on the same plane with Tesla.
In the less than commercial applications with VFD motors and controllers there is much advancement in technology with RC electronic motors and controllers units.
This experimenting promotes alternative energy. Some are using VFD controllers and getting very high efficiency on large motors as well. That's right RC motor controllers driving big motors as well. It is a moderate approach and is not so puritanical that you need extensive system remodeling. Truthfully the sine wave can be derived from digital and is indistinguishable after filtering and conditioning. It is no surprise that a trained ear would intuitively adjust and tune a motor. His digits can also use the conventional instruments to bend notes and make the keys of a piano for exactly the right acoustic on the stings without the synthetic which is easier to learn.
In this video is an example of what a backyard musical electrical engineer may not realize. It has been my opinion that converting this technology into the human audible range would enable musicians with electronic skills to better design motors and generators. Imagine what kind of harmonics we would be living with possible healthy sounds that are more efficient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BBZpH9I6wI
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putting it in perspective
Originally posted by Marcus Neuhof View Postldrancer, think about it this way. If a large earthquake suddenly comes, it might produce some billions of dollars in damages. On the other hand, if you announce "tomorrow Los Angeles will be hit by a massive earthquake, large enough to cause billions of dollars in damages" and people panic -- jam the freeways, empty the grocery stores, start riots, go on looting sprees -- then it might cause ten times as much damage! That is the ethical conundrum which the Advanced Seismic Warning System contains. Which is the correct course of action?
To be sure, we cannot know in advance that announcing an earthquake is *likely* will produce panic. You could therefore argue withholding the knowledge which would allow people to prepare themselves is ethically wrong, even if we believe publicizing it would trigger mass unrest. Nevertheless that is Eric Dollard's judgment to make.
For more on this, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem
Aaron, I think what ldrancer is objecting to, at its core, are Eric Dollard's, shall we say, antidemocratic tendencies -- his way of trusting large institutions (the government, large corporations) and speaking frequently of keeping knowledge for them (such as information about an impending earthquake) rather than making it public.
No doubt this is a product of his personal history. Mr. Dollard after all experienced his "golden period" (or at least he seems to view it as such) while working for the Navy, RCA, and Bell Telephone... the biggest of the big organisations in the US at the time. Nevertheless from the perspective of a member of the general public -- and I think we have all come to understand that, when the chips are down, these organisations have only their own interests at heart and certainly not ours -- this is indeed a disturbing aspect of Mr. Dollard's character.
The fact that the Advanced Seismic Warning System appears to be completely dependent on the US "national security" apparatus, and in turn makes Mr. Dollard dependent on the same, is unfortunately not a point in its favour.
It would really be up to the person or group that would fund a system in their own area as to how it would be used and if there would be warnings given to the public. In some coastal areas, there are already Tsunami warning systems in place. There are some right here in Washington state. The evacuation routes are known to get to high ground, etc. but those areas like around Long Beach, Washington, etc... are fairly low population areas and in places like that, it would probably work. But for somewhere like Los Angeles, I think it is just common sense that any kind of orderly evacuation is just not going to happen.
As far as democracy, I go with Thomas Jefferson's opinion that democracy is nothing more than mob rule where 51% of the people take away the rights of the other 49% and that is exactly what it is.
With the larger institutions, if we look at it from Eric's perspective, it was always the Navy, Bell Labs, RCA, etc. that supported him, while private individuals were always the ones responsible for screwing everything up. I've been to his lab multiple times and even met with some of the fed govt officials there that received the bond money for the land and them and other officials in other areas of the local govt are 100% behind everything Eric is doing. As a side note, I saw the paperwork relating to all of this while sitting in one particular govt office and the Federal Govt officially considers Eric a PhD in Electrical Engineering - so to them, he actually is Dr. Dollard.
Big companies, etc... do have their own agendas... but so do private individuals. I know what you're saying but in regards to the current project in its current location, Eric is the boss and he calls the shots. But the current location is not a big earthquake zone anyway so will probably never save a life, but it is to be demonstration model since it can still show the earth signals on a large scale. And with having two transmission structures, it will be able to pick up earthquakes hundreds of miles away so can show the validity of it in relation to real earthquake activity elsewhere. Being that it is a test location, there aren't going to be any warnings anyway. This test system is to demonstrate what it can do and THEN, major funding through grants will sought after to build these in areas that actually need them. So, all of ldrancer's opinions are premature anyway and he hasn't listened to any of the interviews to know the current funding needed is to provide for a test system to prove the point.
Anyone is free to go seek funding from organizations that want to use it to warn the public. Go for it. ldrancer can do this if he wants. If some organization wants to foot the bill to build these in areas to be used to warn the public, I'm sure that will not be turned away. Eric wants the science to be developed and the knowledge applied. And because anyone is free to help bring funding for this exact purpose, I personally don't think there is much room for criticism from ldrancer, etc.
To me, it is just another case of "we need free energy to save the world" and those who do have legitimate over 1.0 cop devices get blamed for not being forthcoming, etc... we'll, the whole premise is b.s. If people just used R-100 insulation values in their homes and used low cost solar, that solves the energy issue for almost any home on the planet. Fingers get pointed at imaginary problems all the time as we're seeing here while the solutions are already here and no exotic free energy system is needed to save the world. I'd love to have a little perpetual motion machine in my boiler room giving me all the electricity I need for my home - I'd rather have that than solar, but I know the reality is half the energy in the average home is wasted anyway so with R-100 insulation, we cut almost all our losses and the solar needs just dropped in half! The is a simple reality that makes everyone's judgements about people who do have overunity technologies completely ridiculous.
Different topic than the seismic system for saving lives, which it can do and hopefully will do, but the point is, the problems pointed out by ldrancer for example are figments of the imagination. People create problems in their mind that actually don't exist and then complain about them - (it is a test system to prove a point and if/when more funding is available for systems in locations that need them come along - it will be up to the funders to determine what to do with the warnings - which all remains to be seen).
Eric isn't dependent on the govt for this project. Just because it is on govt land doesn't mean anything. Mining companies pay bond money, rent, etc... for using public land to mine their ore and they're not dependent on the same govt for their operation. People and companies rent land from the govt all the time for all kinds of purposes and in this case, it is for Eric to build the seismic warning system and demonstrate it. If anything, the govt is dependent on Eric because he's been able to get glom from the desert doing them a favor of cleaning up a big mess for them.Last edited by Aaron; 05-16-2015, 08:38 PM.
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double standard
Originally posted by ldrancer View PostGo fund the big fiat currency people. go do it. go work for evil.
What do you do for work? How do you get paid? How is your internet connection paid for and how did you get your computer? Your computer probably has an intel or amd chip or other chip from a big corporation publicly traded on the stock market feeding the entire capitalistic stranglehold on the world whose very corporate existence justifies the current economic system that you're griping about. The fact is that YOU are supporting the fiat currency system while you are judging others who are doing that.
Even if you built your own radio to broadcast in Morse Code your message here, you're still using metal in your machine from mines who also are owned by those who feed the fiat currency system.
When it comes down to it, you are not able to not support the current economic model unless you stake out some land and stay secret so you don't pay property taxes, build your home from wood you cut down yourself from an ax that you created from stone or metal that you mined with your own hands. People who believe they are living independently from "the system" are out of touch with reality.
There is a great book I read about 15 years ago by the Dalai Lama called Ethics for the New Millenium and there is a good section in there about the illusion of being independent. You should get a copy because you are essentially operating with a double standard and that dosen't work on me, ldrancer.
As far as valuing human life, you should keep your ill informed and ignorant opinions on the matter and your judgments to yourself because that is exactly what it is - ignorance.
Eric is entitled to his opinion and from a very pragmatic viewpoint, he sees the value of the system as being able to give warning so gas can be shut off, etc... (it will be up to the funding party who builds multiple stations to determine how it will be used) and, I'm entitled to my own opinion, which may be different from his. You are clearly incapable of determining the distinctions, which is clear from you incoherent lumped analysis of what has been stated. You haven't demonstrated what you are understanding, you are demonstrating what you don't.
You're just going to complain without any real intention to do anything - like most people who sit around and complain. If that isn't true, then go study Eric's work and go out and gather the resources and DO IT YOURSELF and announce these warnings to the public. We'll see how far you get. There is nothing stopping you from doing this or anyone else. Go get the land and put up the poles, if you get that far, I'm sure Eric will even go check it out and give consultation on how to build the rest of the system - if you get that far. Then you can do what you want with it. Are you willing to do this? If not, then you're just blowing hot air.
First of all, from the very beginning, Eric has expressed in no uncertain terms that his work (in multiple areas) is to be of service to humanity. You can take it or leave it, but your hypocritical double standard isn't welcome.
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ldrancer, think about it this way. If a large earthquake suddenly comes, it might produce some billions of dollars in damages. On the other hand, if you announce "tomorrow Los Angeles will be hit by a massive earthquake, large enough to cause billions of dollars in damages" and people panic -- jam the freeways, empty the grocery stores, start riots, go on looting sprees -- then it might cause ten times as much damage! That is the ethical conundrum which the Advanced Seismic Warning System contains. Which is the correct course of action?
To be sure, we cannot know in advance that announcing an earthquake is *likely* will produce panic. You could therefore argue withholding the knowledge which would allow people to prepare themselves is ethically wrong, even if we believe publicizing it would trigger mass unrest. Nevertheless that is Eric Dollard's judgment to make.
For more on this, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem
Aaron, I think what ldrancer is objecting to, at its core, are Eric Dollard's, shall we say, antidemocratic tendencies -- his way of trusting large institutions (the government, large corporations) and speaking frequently of keeping knowledge for them (such as information about an impending earthquake) rather than making it public.
No doubt this is a product of his personal history. Mr. Dollard after all experienced his "golden period" (or at least he seems to view it as such) while working for the Navy, RCA, and Bell Telephone... the biggest of the big organisations in the US at the time. Nevertheless from the perspective of a member of the general public -- and I think we have all come to understand that, when the chips are down, these organisations have only their own interests at heart and certainly not ours -- this is indeed a disturbing aspect of Mr. Dollard's character.
The fact that the Advanced Seismic Warning System appears to be completely dependent on the US "national security" apparatus, and in turn makes Mr. Dollard dependent on the same, is unfortunately not a point in its favour.
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Ok.
all i have to say is your painting me black rhetoric, doesnt work on me, aaron.
eric dollard now says right from his own mouth what they destroyed his stuff for from before for.
That makes a lot of sense.
And you claim that, Isnt true, that is exactly what he says, and you say different, you say you see value in it.
You mean you see, public funding, and people should be funding the big fiat currency people, then your working for them.
Thats the value you see, and you ask for public funding for this...
STOP.
ok plain and simple i konw what your doing and so does everyone else who sees it.
Go fund the big fiat currency people. go do it. go work for evil.
stop asking everyone else to do it with you.
If everyone stopped, fjunding them by stop, using their fiat currency system and tools.
do you think we'd all be poor overnight?
You see, value, in human value.
let me quote y9u real quick here.
value human life enough that we see value
not valuve human life value, value human value
you dont value human life, you value human value. as in an excuse by a bunch of liars who made the fiat currency system, which is what its run on, as an excuse to lie to everybody..
alright, whatever.
see thats the WAY I ALWAYS DO THINGS. WHen a statement, doesnt make sense, yo8u see no sense in it, I reword it, and make it make sense taking the same values from it. then it says it's real meaning.
what you used are a bunch of propoganda technicques against me. The, things about experiments and tests. Experiments are things that lead to knowledge. tests are repeating what someone else done before. You gain knowledge from those tests. He shown some tests, experiments, i dont remember if he shown the value of them or if everyone, just seen them.
BUTT you make no sense doing it.
just another excuse made up to have another donation campaign on that site.Last edited by ldrancer; 05-15-2015, 08:32 AM.
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Eric's work
Originally posted by ldrancer View Postright. now help me out, isnt this about the earthquake detection thing? the only thing he's done?
maybe my biography in my head of eric dollard isnt up to date, but i thought, i think i had seen, thats all he had made. .. i know i seen some of his speeches, and his experiment he done on some videos. but yea isnt this all it's about is earthquake detection?
isnt that what, your selling?
Not sure where you get the idea that we're selling an earthquake detection system - nobody has ever said that. Did you read this on some misinformation site or are you just assuming this because you haven't researched the facts?
The seismic project includes large transmission systems in multiple locations, which can predict earthquakes and more - and what this happens to accomplish is prove the principles of Tesla's and Alexanderson's work in longitudinal transmission that mainstream science says is impossible. The earthquake detection is ONE application of this system and that's it.
Eric has taken it beyond what Tesla or Alexanderson did with their transmission systems.
Some of us value human life enough that we see value in an early warning system but the main application would not be to alarm the public but to allow gas and HV lines to be turned off before the catastrophe in order to mitigate the havoc.
Eric has built many things that proves conventional physics wrong and it is up to you to do your research on this to find out for yourself - much is posted all over the internet so won't be hard to find.
Watch the free vids on his website for starters. If you don't understand the significance of his work after that, then I don't believe you're qualified to offer any intelligent criticism on the matter.
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Originally posted by Aaron View PostIt doesn't sound like you know anything about the project.
maybe my biography in my head of eric dollard isnt up to date, but i thought, i think i had seen, thats all he had made. .. i know i seen some of his speeches, and his experiment he done on some videos. but yea isnt this all it's about is earthquake detection?
isnt that what, your selling? and thats what my point is. ive met some, of those people they're to put it plainly, dumbasses. it makes no sense, about that to not let people know about an earthquake and would make sense to me they wouldnt want anyone knowing anything about it, any. no matter what it is. big inventions hide them from the earth. that sounds as stupid as crap. then they want everybody to, advance to some dumb crap, cuase there isnt nothing going on if where not inventing the big inventions and fixing big things. just a bunch of scums, is all if you ask me.
i dont know just saying on that, and if im wrong, ill go watch that video, but i thought thats where i got it from.
all i can say is, i dont know how many times ive heard him say when he's been doing this, they'll gripe aqnd dont want, people, to know..Last edited by ldrancer; 05-14-2015, 11:03 PM.
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Advanced Seismic Warning System
Originally posted by ldrancer View PostSo really your going to invent something and only sell it off to evil guys?
Why they probably don't want it publically announced. If an earthquake happens or not. thats why them guys have no sense.
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So really your going to invent something and only sell it off to evil guys?
Why they probably don't want it publically announced. If an earthquake happens or not. thats why them guys have no sense.
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