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  • t-rex
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    Non-Electromagnetic Condition

    Originally posted by upgradd View Post
    Your Vf exceeding C is an artifact of an APPARENT velocity and not the real speed of the Poyntine Vector.
    There is no Poynting Vector on a resonant transformer - it is cancelled out.

    Electromagnetic relations cannot be utilized in this situation.

    There is no velocity in space. The velocity is in counter space in per cm per second.

    73 DE N6KPH
    Last edited by t-rex; 02-24-2014, 04:31 PM.

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  • dR-Green
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    The (transmitting) coil is tuned to the design frequency of 1860 kc, but the tuning of the primary and secondary is not yet optimised. Transmitter is used alone in the video with focus on single wire filament lamp lighting as well as completely wireless operation of same through capacitive coupling to/from garden soil in a bucket.

    Tesla Magnifying Transmitter - Colorado Springs Scale Model 1860 kc - Single Wire & Wireless Light - YouTube

    An empty coke can used as capacitance on the lamp for reference of its size. Obviously bigger objects/surface areas yield better results.

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by Sputins View Post
    Observation - even when using my very low power signal generator & amp, (not the transmitter) oddly one can feel a certain kind of warmth all around the extra coil against the hand when in resonance. With transmitter you can certainly feel it. Connecting the output directly to ground and readjusting for the impedance (pi network) up to 1 inch purple arcs can be drawn off the top terminal.
    Interesting. I feel a cooling, which is all the more interesting because your coil is wound in the opposite direction. Although I'm not convinced that's not a figment of my imagination, and putting hands in to try and repeat it detunes it etc, I have noticed it over several months when it's not something I'm ever thinking about otherwise, so it could be worth investigating further with a more reliable approach.

    Nice job, those vintage style bulbs look nice too.

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  • mikrovolt
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    Alexanderson Antenna Analysis by Eric Dollard

    http://www.radiomarine.org/idbfiles/...-today_006.jpg
    Last edited by mikrovolt; 02-24-2014, 05:27 AM.

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  • t-rex
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    The Last 3000 Miles of Driving the Corolla

    Western Electric TD2 Bell Telephone Microwave Installation

    A 3.8 to 4.2 gigacycle line of site microwave relay station. Total number of telephone channels 10,500. Station off the air and defunct. This is my introduction to Bell Telephone in High School. The wire line system that connects these stations together is what we're salvaging to make the telluric antenna out of for the Advanced Seismic Warning System.


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    Life in the Desert in Arizona

    The only shade in the desert - 1 tree.

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    Life in the Desert in Lone Pine, California

    Rat Camp Echo

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    Life in the Desert on the Walker Pass Telephone Trail

    Landing Zone Bravo

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    Life at Camp Gregorio

    The site for the next Telluric installation after the current one funded through Indiegogo.

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    Secret Location - Bell Telephone

    Full restored and operational step by step crossbar and O Carrier system. This is the very system that came off of the long lines that we're salvaging for the Alexanderson antenna for the Advanced Seismic Warning System. Much of this I'm going to have to rebuild from scratch.

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  • Sputins
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    Spiral TMT tests

    Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
    The Inventions, Researches And Writings Of Nikola Tesla, Page 125-126
    Interesting.. I'll have to go find it & read it. -Thanks. There is certainly energy there!

    Spiral TMT:


    Spiral TMT: Capacitive coupling from spiral coil to extra coil, via rings, here the rings are asymmetrical in this particular configuration. Here working on 1860Kc, however tuning for the elusive concatenated mode resonance is still ongoing. Nevertheless the bulbs on the output terminal are somewhat brighter than before.

    Extra Coil (version two, experimental)

    0.5mm wire, 0.8mm gap, 94T, 140 x 140mm form, 40 meters long. Wire weight is close to that of the Secondary.

    Small 240V, 25 watt filament bulb.

    Super bright at full power! The camera’s auto shutter makes it look far less so, the colour is bright white.

    Long slender ‘vintage’ filament bulb (25W)

    Both ‘vintage style’ bulbs are brighter than with ordinary 50 cycle 240V. The bulbs do get hot & they all light up just as well when connecting them to your body! - Even at full power you feel nothing. No headaches or odd feelings, almost seems to even make one feel a little better?


    Round ’vintage’ filament bulb (25W)

    Still playing with various configurations to optimise the output and tuning. Observation - even when using my very low power signal generator & amp, (not the transmitter) oddly one can feel a certain kind of warmth all around the extra coil against the hand when in resonance. With transmitter you can certainly feel it. Connecting the output directly to ground and readjusting for the impedance (pi network) up to 1 inch purple arcs can be drawn off the top terminal.

    More later.

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by Sputins View Post
    @dr Green, you’re right, that is what the sting is, arcing to the fingers when the terminal is loosely held. I even received a slight burn through the insulation of the larger clamp, so the current can penetrate the insulation seeking a ground. Penetrate is the wrong term, it was if the current conducts through the (so called) insulation. One is better off to just to grab the metal. No problems. The larger the surface area of the held metal definitely helps. Yeah, less contact or varying the pressure of contact affects the brightness of the bulb.
    Originally posted by Thomas Commerford Martin
    The physiological effects of the high tension discharge are found to be so small that the shock of the coil can be supported without any inconvenience, except perhaps a small burn produced by the discharge upon approaching the hand to one of the terminals. The decidedly smaller physiological effects of these currents are thought to be due either to a different distribution through the body or to the tissues acting as condensers. But in the case of an induction coil with a great many turns the harmlessness is principally due to the fact that but little energy is available in the external circuit when the same is closed through the experimenter's body, on account of the great impedance of the coil.
    The Inventions, Researches And Writings Of Nikola Tesla, Page 125-126

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by AstroNod View Post
    Did look to some of the posting : dr Green wow with that thing von braun will be wondering ... the whole thing might lift of with that big cap on top .
    We can hope

    Originally posted by AstroNod View Post
    so next time i build the sec coil not with lightspeed C . other wise you end up not on the frequency . and the sec coil ain` t slow wave or what ever, i just prove it .

    C = phi/2 free float resonance sec coil .

    So Dr green now you tell me why the 6 turns would not work .... like you `tought`
    I didn't say it wouldn't work, I said I'm not convinced by your decision to go with 6 turns but it would be interesting to see the results.

    The secondary in Eric's design has a height to diameter ratio of 20% which is supposedly 100% light speed effectively. On top of that:

    Originally posted by T-rex
    The secondary is coupled to other coils and capacitance. This lowers the velocity greatly. Thus to compensate the coil wire is shortened by 2/pi=0.63662=63.7% to bring the frequency back up to the proper value.

    ... Where pi is a correction factor, not an intrinsic mathematical relation. But it may be that by using pi some "magic" resonance may take form. (Experiment and see).
    So it's pre-compensated if you will and will have a higher frequency, insofar as Pi is relevant in this case, to ideally end up at the design frequency when everything is in place, not necessarily when the coils are used in free resonance tests etc.

    Originally posted by T-rex
    No test leads should contact coils, No Leads! Electro-static coupling or magnetic loop coupling to meters is all that is permissible. Extra coil must be as free as possible.
    Distance between ground plane and coils should be about 60cm.

    Also, Eric will be setting up an intermittent beacon on 1860 kc.

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  • AstroNod
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    apparent velocity

    Hello upgradd, thanks for the replay . It` s all a little hard for me to understand but i do my best , Due to i wanted to get on th 40 M ham band and now it is appartent on the 30 M ham band . i want to make coils in the fruture what have there the Fr where i wanted to be resonating on saves me a lot of time.
    So i came up with apparent velocity .

    what you mention fact that people think a quater-wave dipole or mono-pole is an equivalent structure to a coil resonator--THEY ARE NOT

    i do understand that with the experiments i did and changed my mind sett on that to make room for more undersanding .

    compare to solenoids, Vf and apparent length become a function not of turns or wire length but of coil height and coil diameter.

    that i understand a little .

    The ONLY thing that is actually interesting about the whole thing (Tesla coils in general--aside from being a "sparkler") is the reflection of RF energy into the earth as opposed to free-space radiation into the atmosphere.
    Indeed to me that looks like ` the magic` here i did disconnect the ground from the signal generator for the prim coil and the TMT show still telluric output as well when i connect the hot wire from the signal gen to the reflecting earth or on the telleric output it self the led show current flow .

    Another thing i noted when start the TMT the apparent velocity drops slightly after some minutes , when i first started it up after some pause i got slighty over phi/2 but than within some minutes it will dropp a little under phi/2 perhaps of the building up of the force in the coil and reflection earth . due to i use about 200mWatts now however i can go up till about 800 watts of RF power in the lab here .

    Thanks a lot for you input Upgradd compliments on this part :

    Considering the most enigmatic force of gravity has been determined to act at the speed of light, it would make sense that C, while not a limit per say, is a universal speed of various cosmic forces. To exceed this value, while not impossible, is highly improbably from the accumulation of evidence from the past 200 years of electrical science. Oddly, an "instantaneous" velocity seems more realistic than an arbitrary velocity greater than C. Reasons for this are many, but the quintessential one is that nothing is currently know to move faster than C. And as it happens, something that happens in zero time doesn't really have a velocity, as it's undefined, which makes it more the more tenable solution to FTL.


    time for some more coffee and burn those arbitary velocity`s

    With the Flat spiral coil tesla systems i did add a offsett dc in a small power amp there is a point where thr RX led begins to blank at a low frequency it was some time ago but that blanking speed lead me also to the apparent velocity of the whole system but perpahs it was a relation of the coil disign of the flat coil like the spacing factor i did use and the coil diameters inner and outher like you mentioned with Vf and apparent length become a function not of turns or wire length but of coil height and coil diameter in the TMT sec coil .

    A nother note i made is the resistance loss in the delay line to the dielectric top with serval materials like tinned wire and compare to silver teflon coax that made a huge difference with system output those where the flat spiral coils .

    Well thanks agian you gave something to think about .

    Back to zero time now because the TMT is waiting for the extra coil . And see what is apparently waiting for me .

    De PD7Z / Astronod
    Last edited by AstroNod; 02-23-2014, 01:17 PM.

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  • upgradd
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    Astronod,

    The coil's real velocity is actually still slower or equal to light speed--REGARDLESS of "calculated" Vf.

    Your Vf exceeding C is an artifact of an APPARENT velocity and not the real speed of the Poyntine Vector. The word "apparent velocity" in this instance is used to denote the fact that people think a quater-wave dipole or mono-pole is an equivalent structure to a coil resonator--THEY ARE NOT. The actual distance of the S flow is reduced, due to coiling in the solenoid, which gives the impression that you are exceeding C. You are however, not exceeding C. Instead you find that the full length of the wire cannot be used to determine the wavelength, hence the point about qurater-wave dipoles not being equivalent to solenoid resonators. For solenoids, Vf and apparent length become a function not of turns or wire length but of coil height and coil diameter. (A logarithmic function to the base epsilon is usually a pretty good fit for this situation.)

    In the end, the calculated Vf is really a phase velocity rather than a group velocity seeing as how a coil is, in general, dispersive--having differing Vf for varying frequencies. To test the true propagation speed, use a pulse generator at 1% Dtc and around 100pS rise time and connect the hot end to the coil and the earth to the ground plane, leave the coil floating (not connected to the ground plane). Then connect a 1ghz+ oscilloscope or counter up to the coil terminal with a capacitive probe and use a resistive coaxial splitter and appropriate attenuators (as needed) to feed the original pulse to the scope/counter. Lengths of the coax connected to the scope, for each signal path, need to be the same to avoid delay offsets. You will not find any FTL here! in fact you will only see the coil as a esoteric type of delay line.

    The ONLY thing that is actually interesting about the whole thing (Tesla coils in general--aside from being a "sparkler") is the reflection of RF energy into the earth as opposed to free-space radiation into the atmosphere. This last detail is much more interesting than the FTL argument. Considering the most enigmatic force of gravity has been determined to act at the speed of light, it would make sense that C, while not a limit per say, is a universal speed of various cosmic forces. To exceed this value, while not impossible, is highly improbably from the accumulation of evidence from the past 200 years of electrical science. Oddly, an "instantaneous" velocity seems more realistic than an arbitrary velocity greater than C. Reasons for this are many, but the quintessential one is that nothing is currently know to move faster than C. And as it happens, something that happens in zero time doesn't really have a velocity, as it's undefined, which makes it more the more tenable solution to FTL.
    Last edited by upgradd; 02-23-2014, 04:02 AM.

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  • AstroNod
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    Tesla magnifier 40/30M Ham Band

    Hello every one , here astronod .
    i just made new video on the TMT 40/30M ham band .
    Tesla Magnifier Transmitter 40/30M HAM BAND - YouTube
    I will keep it simple
    disign was for 7065KHz resonance is at 11.050MHz
    Lo= C / (2xphixF) speed of light --> Lo 6.76m
    Fr =11.05MHz
    C=2xphixFrxLo
    C=469.34 / C speed of light 1.564
    Phi / 2 is 1.570763

    Well very close indeed to phi/2 !!

    Did look to some of the posting : dr Green wow with that thing von braun will be wondering ... the whole thing might lift of with that big cap on top .

    so next time i build the sec coil not with lightspeed C . other wise you end up not on the frequency . and the sec coil ain` t slow wave or what ever, i just prove it .

    C = phi/2 free float resonance sec coil .

    So Dr green now you tell me why the 6 turns would not work .... like you `tought`

    bye bye .

    de PD7Z / astronod
    Last edited by AstroNod; 02-22-2014, 05:48 PM.

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  • mikrovolt
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    More on the lines

    setting aside alien conspiracy andlooking at pictures of phenomena.
    faster particles arriving before.

    The earth quake precursor lines seen in clouds are similar to the lines in this footage. A game changer here is that the belts have incoming debris The convergence in belts visually appears as lines by diffraction. This differs from previous tectonic plate theory that is the earth erupting and shifting from within. An external cause has a more profound fear factor and there is more need for explanation.

    At the exact time If an event of an incoming debris are penetrating the earth
    very shortly afterwards an emitted waves are outgoing. Other waves are slower Primary and then secondary following the belt.

    particles travel HUGE DISTANCES - YouTube

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  • dR-Green
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    Plumbing supplies + kitchen utensils = terminal capacitance



    Initial test setup



    Extra coil tuning shall be achieved through adjusting the length of the top section of pipe

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  • mikrovolt
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    Many Thanks for the forum and contributions for the Dollard lab.
    Much appreciation for making this possible. Much success to Eric.

    The one concern that the facility have a way to lock up documents and
    care be taken to watch who comes and goes with recorded video on secure areas and sooner the better, and I don't mean using the math department's
    video recorder for taping Johnny Carson.

    I look forward to learning about the technology. In 1986 a guy named Takahashi was experimenting with earthquake prediction but later nothing came of it. I believe the funding approach used here has a better chance of success and then some. Kozo is now the ceo of sharp electronics.
    Patent US4904943 - Method for detecting long waves and predicting earthquakes - Google Patents
    Last edited by mikrovolt; 02-20-2014, 05:06 AM. Reason: sorrrry

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  • AstroNod
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    William Lyne

    Hello All , astronod here , yes is did read the william lyne` s occult ether physics and did see some video` s of sir lyne . monatomic hydrogen furnace he came out with however today that technology is used and nasa is thinking of using it to it shows about 20 a 30 x more output then input .
    Here it is The Moller's Atomic Hydrogen Generator
    yesterday i post here on the forum something about the -false-allegations-techzombie-ray-savant here is the post http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-d...tml#post250912
    i did mention a video with jesse ventura (death ray)where william lyne talks about some attacks on him with high technology , myself had the same experience more than once however at the first time it was intense later on i did protect myself so it had no real effect on me .
    sure i have some questions , however i have no facebook and will never have facebook .... i am from the netherlands bit far away . and i have no 400usd just to watch the show . however they will have fun thats is for sure .
    eric mention in one of the video` s i did see : forget about John Bedini battery chargers / and gray motor replica`s .....dang i have both to here in the lab.

    Energy Science Forum Technology Conference 2014, formerly known as the Bedini-Lindemann Science & Technology Conference

    the Aaron's "Gray Tube" experiments Aaron has also put forward a compilation of documentation from Stanley Meyer, which many Meyer "experts" deny even exist.
    well i have not much to say about that it would bring me in serious trouble.

    de PD7Z / Astronod
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