Adrian, unfortunately I have been very busy and still am working my way through your posts, but will no doubt have comments for you later. Thank you in any case!
Aaron, earlier I saw a post -- but can not find it now -- where you asked for people who had previously worked on Cris Carson style generators. If you search my posting here you will find a series of posts I did regarding an attempt to replicate Eric Dollard's "voltage converter", which is electrically similar.
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Hi Smokey,
That's really great! ... thank you ... this is a lot of detail for me to look into, and I also appreciate all the practical info, pictures, and shared know-how, and I have joined your newly formed group.
I also invested in many of the high-voltage components, tubes, transformers etc. back in the early days (2003 onwards), which mostly came from the US, Russia, and the Ukraine. I was particularly fortunate to come across a US surplus supplier that was selling a job-lot of 1B22 tubes, 4 of them unused, 3 used, and 1 defective (no gas but still working as a spark gap).
Anyway, I am going to take a look at a plasma in the spark gap and see what I can do with it. I want to try driving my TMT experiment that I am currently using in my sequence on the Transference of Electric Power, and see how this type of generator will change/improve/modify the properties/phenomena observed in the experiment.
I have previously created a plasma in the spark gap using a MOT, (microwave oven transformer), which had no current limit in the primary, so the spark discharge was very quickly replaced by a hot quiet plasma. However, this method wasn't easily controlled even with a primary choke, the frequency is only the line frequency, and it was easy to burn out everything with the MOT, and including the secondary winding of the MOT.
What you are suggesting with your 'Impulse Discharge' looks like it would be much more controlled and measured.
Best wishes,
Adrian
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Hello Adrian,
Thank You for responding and also for providing all of your construction detail.
I am attempting to add the attachments but having difficulty and will advise. 'Share Photos' and 'Upload attachments' are both dead. Anybody?
Solved - go to bottom left hand side of your Post to 'Upload Attachments' and as you drag an attachment over it highlights itself and you just drop it in and then you are able to insert into your Post in varying sizes.
Have your space ready for where you want the picture.
Excellent work Aaron!
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'Impulse Discharge' was an accidental discovery when doing the Bruce Perrault Ion Valve and Don Smith's Flyback type research.
I, at times do things a little different to the norm and do experiment as I experiment and in such, you get the Dollard 'out of the box' experience.
I am using Bruce's and Bob Ianinni's Pulse Generator (Plasma Ion Pump) which I modified for a greater frequency range and works well with any Flyback and noted the frequency at the discovery was about 75.76 Khz. The ceramic capacitors are in series with the total measuring 19pF - 10 x 100pF.
20 Kv Ceramics in series, I believe, also give you an OU burst, difficult to explain as do oil filled capacitors.
The Spark Gap is using Carbon rods from ' D' batteries and as you can see, the gap is quite wide with the spark extinguished and a plasma connection instead - no noise, no maintenance, no light.
A vacuum tube glass encased variable vacuum tube capacitor would be a probable answer here to the 1B22 but they are most difficult to come by today.
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I am most fortunate in that in my early research years I did most of my purchasing from the USA of things that were simply not available here in Oz and that included all the good Tubes plus oil filled capacitors, HV Caps and Neon transformers etc.
These capacitors are across the Flyback with the Spark Gap on one leg of the HVM 12 kV high voltage diodes.
The German Blaupunkt TV Flyback is probably a 9 kV and uses a Tripler to get the required 27 kV. This is a future modification to triple the voltage but still awaiting the action.
Philips and Blaupunkt in Australia would be like GE and RCA in the USA.
Current at input went from 21 to 7 mA but as you can see the caps are holding 1.1 Kv voltage and continue to charge. Probe is 1,000:1.
Caps are oil filled 8uF in parallel at 4 Kv.
At this point I declared an OU success but the real problem was down converting (DC) what was stored in the caps to a useable 110/240 volt.
I tried further spark gaps and wasted much time with Gas Discharge devices but all to no avail. I was fully lighting a 240 volt lamp at a one second pulse but was clearly unreliable and also blew many with over voltage in the fiddling process.
At this point, along came Eric Dollard with his Vacuum Tubes (VT) and he responded marvellously at my request with a whole heap of VT designs, all of which I built and still waiting to use some of but the focus was on Thyratrons as these were seen to be the answer to my DC problem.
Reason why I built the Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD)(OA4G) and the TMT or Crystal/Radio Set Initiative (CSI) Pulse Generator (2050) to gain further Thyratron experience.
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At this point I have made no further progress as I have about six (6) other hopeful OU projects on the bench and all requiring attention but had to stop as I had run out of room and that is still what I am working on. I am also rainmaking and that is also taking much of my time here due to the extreme Drought (and Fires) and I only discovered that my prime device was working poorly since early 2018 and not at all happy about my inattention.
So what I am suggesting here is the use of the plasma and suggesting the variable vacuum tube capacitor in place of the 1B22. I have one large here but not variable but would be worthy of experiment with variable input control of both frequency and voltage.
This is also where Bruce Perrault comes into the picture with his Ion Valve which is another plasma device but can be built to use without a vacuum and can also be assisted by radiation metals and have included a picture my own efforts in Copper, Aluminium and Carbon as an example and using active welding rods as the Anode - see attached.
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Eric would be best to contact for information on the Chris Carson Generator and I use it only as an illustration of the way variable plates are available for high voltage plasma operation. We don't require the physical rotation here which is why my Yahoo Forum is called 'torsion' as that is what I do - energy rotation without the physicals.
You are welcome to join me (and others too if interested) at the newly formed 'smokey9s@groups.io' and the old 'torsiondevices@yahoogroups.com' where all of my information is held but will continue to Post here in recognition of Eric Dollard's exceptional assistance even though I still don't like his Math.
Will welcome questions from anybody interested in this phenomena.
Smokey
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Hi Smokey,
Thank you for all your support. I haven't tried the experiments with a plasma in the spark gap, sounds interesting, and I will look into giving it a try.
I can see there are a good few references to Chernetsky's work online regarding his 'Self-Generating Discharge', and a few for Carson's 'Rotary Electromagnetic Converter'. Are there any online or available details regarding your 'Impulse Discharge' principle and/or device, I would like to take a look at this as well ?
Best wishes,
Adrian
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Originally posted by David G Dawson View PostHello All,
Every time I do something here in the new format, I get an invalid URL message and that included the 'Sign In'.
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Hello All,
Every time I do something here in the new format, I get an invalid URL message and that included the 'Sign In'.
Hate to say this but I detect something missing in all of the good work presented by AMInnovations in that there is no plasma being used across the spark gap and I thought that was what Tesla saw as a paramount consideration.
This is what Chernetsky with his 'Self-Generating Discharge' and my 'Impulse Discharge' also does, that once you eliminate the spark and a plasma takes over, your input power drops by 2/3rd but the capacitors continue to store the energy.
This in hindsight could also be done with a variable sheet many plate capacitor at high voltage where the plasma traffic could be increased dramatically and isn't this similar to the Chris Carson device.
This is where a 'hard' spark gap fails you like in the 1B22s as you are unable to control your input and being variable is a must.
If you need to you can paint the plates with the Radium salts or whatever.
Great stuff with the 1B22s and 811As and an exceptional appreciation from me for providing all the bench type construction detail without the suffocating Math.
All the Best.
Smokey
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Hi,
I have added a new post to my website:
http://www.am-innovations.com/transf...c-power-part-2
This post is part 2 in the Transference of Electric Power series and includes video experiments, measurements, and an analysis of the differences that arise in the TMT transmission experiment when powered using a spark gap generator, rather than the vacuum tube feedback oscillator used in part 1.
The experimental work is intended to investigate and demonstrate aspects of the following:
1. Tuning measurements using a vector network analyser to measure Z11, the small signal ac input impedance for the experimental system, from the perspective of the spark gap generator.
2. Tuning indifference when powering a load either in the single wire transmission line or at the output of the receiver.
3. Reduced power available in the single wire transmission line.
4. Reduced power available in the receiver load.
5. Tesla radiant energy and matter phenomena.
6. Transference of electric power between the transmitter and receiver in the near field.
Best wishes,
Adrian
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2019-12-08 Eric Dollard Live Call
New live call on youtube:
2019-12-09 eric dollard live call - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage
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Chris Carson Rotary Electrostatic Converter
More to come on the Chris Carson Rotary Electrostatic Converter:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...is-carson.html
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Live call today
ERIC DOLLARD LIVE CALL - DECEMBER 8, SUNDAY, NOON PACIFIC TIME ZONE
Next Sunday, we're having a live telephone conference call with Eric Dollard. Conference Call Dial-in: 1-857-232-0155, Conference Code: 582590
Join us on the call and ask questions about any of Eric's past presentations, what his future ones will be about or anything on Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage - The only man who has replicated Tesla's wireless transmission technology.
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Transference of Electric Power
Hi,
I have added a new post to my website:
Transference of Electric Power - Part 1 | AMInnovations
This post includes video experiments, measurements, and a preliminary analysis of the modes of transmission between the transmitter and receiver of a TMT system.
The experimental work is intended to investigate and demonstrate aspects of the following:
1. Tuning measurements using a vector network analyser to measure Z11, the small signal ac input impedance for the experimental system, from the perspective of the generator.
2. Tuning the transmitter and receiver to different points to demonstrate different transference phenomena.
3. Single wire transmission and the longitudinal magneto-dielectric (LMD) mode.
4. Tuning to power a load within the single wire transmission line.
5. Tuning to power a load at the output of the receiver.
6. Tuning to establish the LMD mode of transmission between the transmitter and the receiver.
7. Tuning to establish the null point of the LMD mode within the single wire load.
8. Tesla’s wireless transmission of electric power in the near field, using a pair of tuned Tesla magnifying transformers (TMT).
9. Transference of electric power between the transmitter and receiver in the near field.
Best wishes,
Adrian
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Originally posted by David G Dawson View PostDon't like the Math but a schematic is 100 x more informative and that probably goes for nearly everyone involved in 'Energy Synthesis'.
Perhaps a snide remark with respect to Eric's Conference presentation which I purchased but failed to gain little of bench interest.
Excellent string of Presenters you have prepared but difficult for those of us 'down under' to grasp.
Still have James DeMeo's presentation to review and should be interesting.
The bench is pretty bare when all you have in front of you is Math that really means nothing to you, unfortunately, excepting a great deal of work to figure out its meaning.
The sales page for the conference presentation advertises that the documents give "Every Detail On How To Replicate It".
Are you saying that this is not the case?
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Audio Modulator
Hi David,
It's a project I've wanted to do for a long time and I plan to be able to present it at next year's conference. It's really a universal system as I can do so many things with it since its all modular.
I have two old Air Force 19" racks in my shop and will be making about 8 separate rack mount units for them both.
The dual 810 tube unit is a push pull audio modulator and the tubes are fed by a rectified 2400v potential transformer - this is based on a design in one of the RCA tube manuals. This audio modulator will be driven by a 30 watt audio amplifier that will be built to Western Electric specs - based on a design in one of the Bell Lab Practices manuals. The output transformer will either be a 100 pound RCA AM Transmitter from the 1940s that I already have or two smaller ones. This entire arrangement is a super high fidelity complex waveform generator where a simple digital signal generator like what I offer with my Bedini RPX Sideband Generator combo kits can be used at the input of the 30 watt audio amp, computer output, cd player, records, or anything else. What this output will do - I don't want to say at this time but that is the arrangement.
In the second rack will be a virtually identical setup but for RF.
I still want to build a Cosmic Ray Detector, etc. like you have at some point. The above-mentioned project with the audio modulator will only be the second tube project I've ever built. The first is a 4 stage Ukaco machine based on probably the only surviving original unit in the world, which I have. Bedini's wasn't original - it was modified by John Cjeka.
Anyway, working with Eric on this - when the two racks are done and some of the final experiments are done (which there are unlimited experiments that can be done - I'm interested in just a few) - it will be my PhD education in making mil spec rack equipment from scratch. lol Truly a priceless education that I am deeply thankful for.
Working on drilling out everything on the panels and chassis right now and when Eric takes off, will have to get a bit of it done at a metal working shop and will get the panels powder coated. We've made pretty good progress so far!
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810 Vacuum Tubes
Hello Aaron,
810 Vacuum Tubes:
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Eric Dollard arrived at my home a couple days ago and we're hot on another project. A couple 810 vacuum tubes, large transformers and chokes a bunch of other heavy and hard to find components that I purchased 4 yeras ago for a very specific purpose... if we can get it done in time for the 2020 ESTS, we're going to demonstrate it; if not, 2021 for sure!! No matter how challenging this all is, my goal is to have it done. I'm not saying what it is or what it will do, but it will blow your mind and knock your socks off at the same time - that's for sure. For some people, it's going to freak them out for sure because it is like something from the Outer Limits!"
Well now you have done it as I am all ears for any of the vintage Vacuum Tube projects but all I can raise here are a couple of NOS 805s but should do the job.
810s are now either not available or too expensive to buy but I do also have 813s.
It was the Carbon Anodes that I was attracted to as I had an instinct that there was a suspicious reason for using the Carbon which was later replaced by metal.
Have a Harold Strand Tesla project here where I was going to use the 805s in place of an 811A.
http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla%20-%...27s%20Coil.pdf
If you want a replication built, please let me know as I believe I was the only one that built all of Eric's Tube schematics he presented back in 2012 which I am still indebted to him for. Don't like the Math but a schematic is 100 x more informative and that probably goes for nearly everyone involved in 'Energy Synthesis'.
Perhaps a snide remark with respect to Eric's Conference presentation which I purchased but failed to gain little of bench interest.
Excellent string of Presenters you have prepared but difficult for those of us 'down under' to grasp.
Still have James DeMeo's presentation to review and should be interesting.
The bench is pretty bare when all you have in front of you is Math that really means nothing to you, unfortunately, excepting a great deal of work to figure out its meaning.
Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD) still working and promising to make a Video on its history but time is limited. A Solar Minimum event will allow for an increase in Cosmic Rays and that is now being reported.
Respectfully.
Smokey
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Watch new Dollard interview
Electromagnetic Theory by Oliver Heaviside
Much of Oliver Heaviside’s work is unknown to most electrical engineers but they are somewhat familiar with Heaviside’s Telegraph Equation.
In Heaviside’s Electromagnetic Theory books, Parts 1, 2 & 3 there are quite a few concepts that cover the very nature of energy and what it actually is that most people have never heard of.
The reason this topic is so important is because it rewrites the very foundation of energy science and shows what energy is and what it isn’t. Essentially, virtually everyone uses the term ENERGY incorrectly and what this all leads to is very disruptive to the current paradigm.
Go here to watch the video: Eric Dollard's new Research on Oliver Heaviside - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage
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