Eric Dollard

[James Barker]

With my transformer, the secondary is slower than light and the extra coil is
apparently FTL, but I tuned the setup so that when they are put together I
get very close to light speed. And I can get double helix Arcs from it. Picture
attached.

That's one of the most remarkable things I've seen all day. Thanks for posting that.

[upgradd]

I forgot to add that "coiled" inductance can actually be lower than straight wire inductance! This condition is not normally how inductors are wound, but none the less obviates the thought that "coiling" always increases the self inductance of a given length of wire. However, as for capacitance, it would undoubtedly increase with "coiling" but how much at the point of lowest inductance would be an important experiment for for comparison with a straight wire.

[dR-Green]

I think what cyborg is missing, is that the straight wire velocity and coiled wire velocity have different paths for movement.

Exactly! Thank you upgradd.

[dR-Green]

It is simple enough, alright, but the original straight wire will also resonate in quarter wave mode at it's fundamental resonant frequency.
If you energize a monopole straight wire quarter wave antenna with sufficient watts and run a small cfl lamp from bottom to top , it will indicate a maximum at the the top, just like a TC.
That wire will NOT have two maximas, but only one at F0.

If I take that wire , coil it up, and the resonant frequency is substantially lower, then we must be at a percentage c velocity.
Besides, as I said, it's also more inductive, so the frequency would have to lower.

Here again, you are playing a shell game with numbers to obfuscate the fact that TC FTL is a myth. That may work for people who are not objective and want to believe in "suppressed technology", but I'm not that guy.

When the internet was just coming of age, I too, was drawn to the vast store of information, among it being the "supressed technologies" . Most were immediately recognizable as scams, but others needed some looking into. To date, none of those sites or forums produced anything that was worthy of a conspiracy against it. It's really about ads, kits, and books.
The internet killed the carnival barker!

I don't think that you are consciously trying to con me, but have been sucked into some "psuedo science" on this issue. You "drank the Koolaide" so to speak.
Why won't you won't try the experiment and see for yourself? Is it because that would be contrary to your belief system, thus making you a heretic ?

Are you a scientist or a devotee?

I haven't mentioned any "suppressed technology". You are confusing me with your other friends.

I haven't claimed that there will be two frequencies.

A straight wire's natural resonant frequency can't be higher than what is achieved through the numbers I posted. For Tesla's 789.9848887 Metres conductor length the speed of light limit dictates that the frequency can't be greater than 94.872 kc. The measured frequency of the coil is 116.3 kc.

I've already said that Eric said himself nothing is actually moving faster than light in this case.

You are overlooking the fact that unlike a straight piece of wire, the inter-turn capacitance in the coil also provides a path for the energy to flow, so it doesn't go all the way around and along the wire as it would do if it was laid out straight. The effective distance is less.

As I said, the data is for engineering use through predicting behaviour and using it to deliberately design systems, which is the essence of science.

[upgradd]

I think what cyborg is missing, is that the straight wire velocity and coiled wire velocity have different paths for movement.

That is, the "coiled" geometry allows for mutual E and B fields to excite turns ahead of the TEM flow of the Poyntine vector that exists along the "straight wire" path. You therefore get two flows of energy in the coiled structure, one normal to the direction of the windings and one parallel with the windings (each flow is at 90* to one another in physical space) Thus the "apparent speed" of propagation appears faster for the coiled winding than the straight wire (under specific circumstances), and v_f is therefore geometry dependent. The two energy flows can be summed together via the same process resistance and reactance are done for finding impedance, by converting complex numbers from rectangular coordinates (Resistance, Reactance) to polar (Magnetude, Phase). Resulting in a spiral path for the Poyntine vector, which can be shorter than the straight wire length but will always be much longer than the height of the coil.

Off into tangents...

The diameter of the coil strongly influences the inter-turn capacitance and also the opposing mutual inductance (counter currents are closer with smaller diameters). On the other hand, coil pitch has the greatest affect on the aiding mutual inductance between each turn (magnetic fields diminish rapidly with distance so the aiding flux diminishes quickly with spacing).

Proximity effect, induces extraneous Joule losses due to the Poyntine vector not being wholly distributed around the wire. This is due to the majority of the E-field being largest where there is the most capacitance (between turns). As a consequence, the conductor's surface area no longer serves as fully "active". While inductance is greatest with no spacing, proximity effect losses are also greatest, thus a compromise is met with spacing to achieve high quality factors or Q-factor. When spacing out windings, coil diameter becomes important since fields from counter currents may substantially subtract from the aiding fields of parallel currents.

[cyborg]

Well it's simple enough.

F = c/λ

λ = 4*conductor length (remember the quarter wave resonance?)

Frequency with propagation at 100% light speed = 94.872 kc

Measured frequency = 116.3 kc

Therefore coil propagation is greater than 100% light speed.

f0 = 1/ 2*pi*sqrt(LC)

Using free space C

f0 = 111.276 kc = still greater than 100%

Beyond that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to anyone who is not engineering working systems.

It is simple enough, alright, but the original straight wire will also resonate in quarter wave mode at it's fundamental resonant frequency.
If you energize a monopole straight wire quarter wave antenna with sufficient watts and run a small cfl lamp from bottom to top , it will indicate a maximum at the the top, just like a TC.
That wire will NOT have two maximas, but only one at F0.

If I take that wire , coil it up, and the resonant frequency is substantially lower, then we must be at a percentage c velocity.
Besides, as I said, it's also more inductive, so the frequency would have to lower.

Here again, you are playing a shell game with numbers to obfuscate the fact that TC FTL is a myth. That may work for people who are not objective and want to believe in "suppressed technology", but I'm not that guy.

When the internet was just coming of age, I too, was drawn to the vast store of information, among it being the "supressed technologies" . Most were immediately recognizable as scams, but others needed some looking into. To date, none of those sites or forums produced anything that was worthy of a conspiracy against it. It's really about ads, kits, and books.
The internet killed the carnival barker!

I don't think that you are consciously trying to con me, but have been sucked into some "psuedo science" on this issue. You "drank the Koolaide" so to speak.
Why won't you won't try the experiment and see for yourself? Is it because that would be contrary to your belief system, thus making you a heretic ?

Are you a scientist or a devotee?

[dR-Green]

This all relates back to what I said about belief and dogma.
I believe that I have have wasted enough of my time and every one else's .
This is like trying to prove that the Earth is round to the "Flat Earth Society".

Well it's simple enough.

F = c/λ

λ = 4*conductor length (remember the quarter wave resonance?)

Frequency with propagation at 100% light speed = 94.872 kc

Measured frequency = 116.3 kc

Therefore coil propagation is greater than 100% light speed.

f0 = 1/ 2*pi*sqrt(LC)

Using free space C

f0 = 111.276 kc = still greater than 100%

Beyond that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to anyone who is not engineering working systems.

[cyborg]

DR Green

thank you for pointing out the formula correction . I fixed it.

C (free space) = a function of the geometry of the coil. Propagation velocity is also determined by the geometry, so naturally it's all related. Also the coil is in QUARTER WAVE resonance.

The straight wire fundamental will be quarter wave also.

This all relates back to what I said about belief and dogma.
I believe that I have have wasted enough of my time and every one else's .
This is like trying to prove that the Earth is round to the "Flat Earth Society".

[dR-Green]

With my transformer, the secondary is slower than light and the extra coil is
apparently FTL, but I tuned the setup so that when they are put together I
get very close to light speed. And I can get double helix Arcs from it. Picture
attached.

G'day Farmahnd. I believe Cyborg here will argue that your coil is something like 2% (or maybe 20%) the speed of light, because he doesn't consider the quarter wave resonance. He thinks in terms of the full wavelength at the resonant frequency.

My question is how do you guys expect to drive your transformers with some
power ? At full frequency of like 2000 kc per second ? Tubes ?

Personally I will be using tubes soon, but I would also like to try some decent amount of power with a solid state circuit which is why I asked Cyborg if he has anything he can share.

Nice picture by the way!

[dR-Green]

Doc,

I was HOPING for discussion of the "whys" rather than excoriation.

Not really complaining about carpentry in the music class, but how score is being composed. Harmony with physical facts would be preferred. Theories based on bad data are inherently flawed.
FTL in a TC is bad data.

Take a straight length of wire and determine it's natural resonance.
Now, coil it up and check again. It will now resonate at a lower frequency.
Why? because it is more inductive for one reason!

f0 = 1/ 2*pi*sqrt(L/C)

velocity factor = 1/c*sqrt(LC)

where c = velocity of light
C= inter-turn and stray isotropic capacitance
L= inductance

These formulas work fine for TCs. QED

Diameter = 251.46 cm
Height = 238.76 cm
Number Of Turns = 100
Conductor Length = 789.9848887 Metres
Measured Frequency = 116300 Cycles/sec
Free Space Self Capacitance = 115.6716pF
Burdened Capacitance = 260.52pF
Inductance = 17.684mH

Be my guest. Especially with "f0 = 1/ 2*pi*sqrt(L/C)", because it's LC not L/C, although I think you already know this. Using the stray (burdened) capacitance will lead you way off.

C (free space) = a function of the geometry of the coil. Propagation velocity is also determined by the geometry, so naturally it's all related. Also the coil is in QUARTER WAVE resonance.

Where are the physical facts supposed to come from if no one does any experiment to establish the facts?

What say you now, doc?
Am I still getting kicked out of music class?

I don't know, I'm not an admin. One might even say that only you can make that decision. Upon the entrance of Plato's school it was written "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here." If you understand what that means then you will also know what I meant.

[Farmhand]

Eric claimed FTL propagation on his coils and wanted to give himself a speeding ticket in
the old borderlands video. There was no misunderstanding as far as I can see.

The first I seen Eric actually say there was no actual FTL on the coil was when I
questioned it and asked if that was the case. Even though I was abused for as
far as I can tell no good reason I still asked valid questions.

The online Tesla Coil building calculators all predict that a tall small diameter
coil will have a apparent FTL propagation and a short large diameter coil will
have a STL propagation.

With my transformer, the secondary is slower than light and the extra coil is
apparently FTL, but I tuned the setup so that when they are put together I
get very close to light speed. And I can get double helix Arcs from it. Picture
attached.

Any transformers built on wood that is not insulated will have problems with
higher voltages.

My question is how do you guys expect to drive your transformers with some
power ? At full frequency of like 2000 kc per second ? Tubes ?

Cheers

[cyborg]

Well, what do you want to happen?

If you attend a particular school or course, then you are expected to follow the curriculum, it's a basic premise that is commonly acknowledged. What's the point of going to music class and complaining that no carpentry is being done? [edit] Ignoring personal interpretation of what has been said, of course. Arguing against someone's personal interpretation is not scientific or valid.

You would be kicked right out of the educational/philosophical institutions of the ages for doing what you are doing here, because rather than having mastered what is taught and then going about your own way to develop it as you see fit, you are demanding that the teacher changes the curriculum to suit what you already believe. That would earn you a booting, nothing less.

APPARENT faster than light propagation velocities have been measured here on numerous occasions. Tesla's measurement is in CS Notes. Eric has said himself that nothing is actually moving faster than light in this instance.

Eric says do it exactly like he says [without question] in order to test the existing theory. Based on what happens and is observed within the strict and controlled guidelines, THEN it can and possibly MUST be reviewed and/or changed. Changing things in the system before starting anything, or everyone starting from different positions as in personal quests, is not scientific.

Doc,

I was HOPING for discussion of the "whys" rather than excoriation.

Not really complaining about carpentry in the music class, but how score is being composed. Harmony with physical facts would be preferred. Theories based on bad data are inherently flawed.
FTL in a TC is bad data.

Take a straight length of wire and determine it's natural resonance.
Now, coil it up and check again. It will now resonate at a lower frequency.
Why? because it is more inductive for one reason!

f0 = 1/ 2*pi*sqrt(LC)

velocity factor = 1/c*sqrt(LC)

where c = velocity of light
C= inter-turn and stray isotropic capacitance
L= inductance

These formulas work fine for TCs. QED

What say you now, doc?
Am I still getting kicked out of music class?

[dR-Green]

Anyone such as myself who questions the "teachings" or the "master" is vilified and called a disruptor, etc.

Well, what do you want to happen?

If you attend a particular school or course, then you are expected to follow the curriculum, it's a basic premise that is commonly acknowledged. What's the point of going to music class and complaining that no carpentry is being done? [edit] Ignoring personal interpretation of what has been said, of course. Arguing against someone's personal interpretation is not scientific or valid.

You would be kicked right out of the educational/philosophical institutions of the ages for doing what you are doing here, because rather than having mastered what is taught and then going about your own way to develop it as you see fit, you are demanding that the teacher changes the curriculum to suit what you already believe. That would earn you a booting, nothing less.

APPARENT faster than light propagation velocities have been measured here on numerous occasions. Tesla's measurement is in CS Notes. Eric has said himself that nothing is actually moving faster than light in this instance.

Eric says do it exactly like he says [without question] in order to test the existing theory. Based on what happens and is observed within the strict and controlled guidelines, THEN it can and possibly MUST be reviewed and/or changed. Changing things in the system before starting anything, or everyone starting from different positions as in personal quests, is not science, certainly not organised science that will yield universally useful data.

[cyborg]

Cults of personality

Whilst many would prefer to like to blame Eric Dollard, there does seem to be a historic and concerted campaign to disrupt the forward and ongoing movement of his work. Certain methods include derailment by misguidance, subterfuge by misdirection and dishonesty, intimidation by the conduit of transport, or violence by the means of active threat. And the best and probably most celebrated scientific ignorance by the means of tenure or self glory.

For all those so-called detractors who would speak out against the work of Eric by these above means, I would add it achieves very little but entirely disrupting the work.

The the only real objective and scientific way to test the works of Eric Dollard is to continue the progressive analysis of the CRD and CIG, and follow the FTL virtue or characteristic in the spirit as Tesla had suggested, in terms of detecting a FTL Cosmic Ray, this may have already been achieved by David Dawson from Eric Dollards work, as I have repeatedly said, it is but a small step away from a second perfected and individualised unit which has the very real promise of providing a delta T or differential for a velocity measure of these so-called new-type of particles.

Someone suggested Tesla never suggested FTL, this misdirection has been identified as a misinformed opinion not backed up by literature released by the scientist i question.

What Eric and Tesla say, it goes against the fabric of the modern scientific oligarchy, and which is why so many talented individuals were once involved in a recreation here that recognized that and the importance of such work. Unfortunately, as always in these matters it is apparent at least one of the methods of derailment is always available to the citizen, or the government employee. And so explains why something so engineerable and detectable, in the same case as the electrostatic discharge of pi / 2 * C velocity can go ignored conveniently as an exception, no different than the inventive helping of the epicycle, almost akin to the belief that the earth itself, or the electron, is the centre of the universe, an epicycle like einstein generation has been produced, and it is too late now there is no going back, the damage has been done, fortunately for us, we will not suffer the same fate as the romans and the greeks, and will not continue to believe a mans centric invention of electricity for 2000 years like the greek epicycle was. And why did this come about? IT wasnt incompetence of scientists, or a lack of methods or observational capacity. No , the same flaw that all inventive and electromagnetic science of kirchoff and ohm suffers from is it ignores the faraday equation itself, and most importantly of all, they all suffer from the same inventive defect, some missing piece of information. And instead it results in a science of great fiction, suffering from missing pieces of information it results in a conceptually wrong idea to the operation of a general electric wave and then somehow results in the argument that arises. Nonetheless the universe waits in the same form it always had, it is mans state in this case that requires altering,

Must apologize as response was rushed

Best Wishes,
Adam

I suppose much of this was directed toward me, but as in politics a half truth or outright lie is presented as truth to promote an agenda AKA Machiavellian politics. Forums are no different in this regard as evidenced by your post.

My original statement was that the TCs do not exhibit FTL properties as some have claimed to have measured. Tesla never said they did either,not even in all of those diverse snippets. He is talking about cosmic particles not TCs!!! In fact, Tesla's time calcs for circumnavigation of a ground wave were based on c.

Followers of Cults of personality never end up in a good way. History has shown this to be true. I would rather think for myself.
It is obvious that nothing I can say or prove will dissuade the "true believers"
from whatever erroneous things their master has taught them and so it goes...

This was a social experiment on my part to understand what is going on with the E.D. "movement".
My conclusions are that there is no discussion here , but only dogma to be revered and protected no matter what.

Anyone such as myself who questions the "teachings" or the "master" is vilified and called a disruptor, etc.

This is not science, but some kind of religion. You guys even use words like "divulged" and "revelation" when referring to communications form the guru.
WOW!

For the record, there is nothing here that I wish to disrupt nor do I have a clue why a person would think in such conspiratorial terms.
I was just running some thoughts up the flag pole to see if they would fly.
Not only didn't they fly, but were NUKED!!!
Another WOW!

[7redorbs]

Blame Game Science & The 5 principles of Derailment

Whilst many would prefer to like to blame Eric Dollard, there does seem to be a historic and concerted campaign to disrupt the forward and ongoing movement of his work. Certain methods include derailment by misguidance, subterfuge by misdirection and dishonesty, intimidation by the conduit of transport, or violence by the means of active threat. And the best and probably most celebrated scientific ignorance by the means of tenure or self glory.

For all those so-called detractors who would speak out against the work of Eric by these above means, I would add it achieves very little but entirely disrupting the work.

The the only real objective and scientific way to test the works of Eric Dollard is to continue the progressive analysis of the CRD and CIG, and follow the FTL virtue or characteristic in the spirit as Tesla had suggested, in terms of detecting a FTL Cosmic Ray, this may have already been achieved by David Dawson from Eric Dollards work, as I have repeatedly said, it is but a small step away from a second perfected and individualised unit which has the very real promise of providing a delta T or differential for a velocity measure of these so-called new-type of particles.

Someone suggested Tesla never suggested FTL, this misdirection has been identified as a misinformed opinion not backed up by literature released by the scientist i question.

What Eric and Tesla say, it goes against the fabric of the modern scientific oligarchy, and which is why so many talented individuals were once involved in a recreation here that recognized that and the importance of such work. Unfortunately, as always in these matters it is apparent at least one of the methods of derailment is always available to the citizen, or the government employee. And so explains why something so engineerable and detectable, in the same case as the electrostatic discharge of pi / 2 * C velocity can go ignored conveniently as an exception, no different than the inventive helping of the epicycle, almost akin to the belief that the earth itself, or the electron, is the centre of the universe, an epicycle like einstein generation has been produced, and it is too late now there is no going back, the damage has been done, fortunately for us, we will not suffer the same fate as the romans and the greeks, and will not continue to believe a mans centric invention of electricity for 2000 years like the greek epicycle was. And why did this come about? IT wasnt incompetence of scientists, or a lack of methods or observational capacity. No , the same flaw that all inventive and electromagnetic science of kirchoff and ohm suffers from is it ignores the faraday equation itself, and most importantly of all, they all suffer from the same inventive defect, some missing piece of information. And instead it results in a science of great fiction, suffering from missing pieces of information it results in a conceptually wrong idea to the operation of a general electric wave and then somehow results in the argument that arises. Nonetheless the universe waits in the same form it always had, it is mans state in this case that requires altering,

Must apologize as response was rushed

Best Wishes,
Adam