Eric Dollard

[Aaron]

Ray Savant hi-jacking Eric's organization

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[David G Dawson]

Solid State vs Vacuum Tubes

Hello Jimm,
My apologies for not responding earlier but have been a little busy with other matters.
Don't know whether you have read through all of the Dollard material with particular interest in the MIT Chapter V on Pulse techniques and the use of Thyratrons, cold cathodes and spark gaps, Guillemin Line etc and also the fact that we are dealing with a 'field effect' here and nothing to do with electrons and secondary emission.
To be working with solid-state you simply cannot see and tune the plasma as you can with Thyratons, Cold Cathodes 0A4G and the like.
I equate the mystery energy we seek in 'Energy Synthesis' to the Aether and plasma is that step just below the Aether and therefore at a convenient distance for obtaining an energy gain.

I have a setup here that I have been working on where I can easily charge oil filled capacitors to many Kv and have had a problem in downconversion.
I have a plasma at the spark gap with no arc and believe I have here an energy gain as the current drops to minimum with the caps still charging.
I have just realised in my push-pull transformer being driven by some 1.5kv old TV NPN horizontal drivers, that I was not pushing the drivers hard enough at the gate to get this setup to work.
That realisation was only recognised by working with Vacuum Tubes.
However, I am now looking at using Thyratrons to achieve this same function but I will now do both to obtain the better of the two organisations.

What Mr Dollard is working with in the 'Cosmic Induction Generator' cannot be achieved by solid state (SS) at this time until we learn more and then after a working model is obtained, we can then substitute the SS but in fairness, I don't think any of us would want to do that.
What would you substitute for in SS with a bevy of Eimac 304THs driving the Extra Coil?

Not trying to put your suggestion down but what we are doing at the moment cannot be done by SS and the other factor is that we choose to do it this way as it is a known and well respected technology that SS cannot as yet match.

Fact is in my book that I don't want to use SS as there is nothing like a Vacuum Tube where you are able to see what you are doing and you are that close to real plasma and the Aether.
My bottom line is 'Energy Synthesis' and after spending two years on SS Drivers I am very solidly entreched in Vacuum Tubes (VT) for reasons given above.
I know it is difficult for those not knowing VTs to question why we do what we are doing but there is no other recourse but to follow your instincts and that is where mine has led me with many hours of bench work and experience being gained.

The photocells are very easily obtained on Ebay as nobody else knows what they were used for and are available very cheaply.
And I don't want to be messing about with innovation when I already have something that will fit the bill.
Yes and I do have a means of making a photocell but why mess with that when I have about 30 PE Cells at hand that are neatly packaged, are contained in a gas or vacuum that will not become contaminated by air, corrosion or dust particles and are specially manufactured with much better materials than is possible in an innovative device and includes special coatings like Caesium and Antimony to increase characteristics and gain?
When something gets to work correctly is the time when you go looking to make improvements - and not before that happens.

Hope this answers your questions and encourage you to extend your ideas into practical SS devices that might take the place of VTs and will be a willing listener to those ideas but at this time I will remain with the VTs.
Thanks.

Smokey

[jimm]

Tubes vs. SS

Smokey,

I guess the problem is that I am not seeing the whole picture of the application?
While tubes are definitely superior in high voltage situations, solid state is less bulky, more efficient, than it's VT counterpart in most cases.

Those horizontal transistors usually were base driven by a 5 watt transformer coupled predriver. The frequency response falls off dramatically once you get into the RF range. I like power fets for low power (500w or less)LF TC drives, but I digress...

Just what is a CIG and what does it do? Can you direct me to a URL where there are descriptions and drawings? Google came up short except for some pics of P. Linderman with a machine.

If it existed back in the 80's, what happened to it? Perhaps it was a dead end as Eric seems to imply?
I don't think this is "tesla tech" is it? The Tesla "radiant energy collector" was more like the circuit that you posted, a very simple device which responded to x-rays.
BTW those phototubes are designed to be sensitive in the IR spectrum.

[jimm]

Cig

OK I found out what it is.
Basically it's it's an over sized, over powered plasma generator.
It's probably dangerous to the uninitiated or casual builders. Proceed with extreme caution!
You might even make a plasma ball with that thing.

Who made up the name? It sounds very science fiction like, but I'm sure that was intentional.

[David G Dawson]

Tesla Tech

Hello Jimm,
CIG stands for 'Cosmic Induction Generator' and was covered loosely in the earlier two Forums of Erics.
In honesty though I have probably produced the device in my mind with only having read what was made available and this fully connected to vintage Vacuum Tubes.

Tesla Valves were able to radiate 'Radiant Energy' and one phenomena observed with these Valves was the hot spot which was caused by the spatial angle of emission from the alulminium electrodes inside.
More on that from Walter Russell experiments.
What Eric was able to do was poke a copper wire through this molten glass area into the Valve and have asked him to relate more about this but not so as yet.
What is seen inside the Valve is the formation of the Cosmos with Galaxies of all types and Comets etc being formed.
This same device is able to produce Fractal electric streams and this is what he is studying, formation of the Cosmos and Fractal electrics and why we have CIG and the CRD 'Cosmic Ray Detector' which I am currently working on.

Here is an RCA document with a good explanation and list of the available photocells and you can see there are 4 main types with different spectral properties:

http://www.tubebooks.org/Books/Atwoo...Phototubes.pdf

Your expertise with SS is appreciated but not of use to me at this time but may be probably later.

Will be doing Eric's Test 2 again using the high voltage but will then be building the Hendershot Generator as it meets all of my criteria for an 'Energy Synthesis' device.
Hope this helps.

Smokey

[jimm]

Cig

If you haven't built the driver for it yet, the cheap and dirty way is to use a VT radio transmitter/amp. Match the impedance with a transformer with dual windings 180 degees out of phase to each of the extra coils and...voila! Tesla nivana!

The whole bulb thing scares me because given enough enegy, the internal plasma will heat and increase the internal pressure, exploding tha glass envelope of the bulb. Wear a helmet/face shield and bullet proof vest!

How many watts are you planning to run?
Plasma is hot by definition. Take it from me, you can melt stuff in a heart beat!
Be very careful.

[brusers]

Ground reception at night

@dR-Green, and others that have been actively building coils.

I put together a primary/secondary setup for the 160 meter band. Last night when I finished it and got it ~tuned.. I hooked it up to my receiver (old Kenwood R-300) and was hearing a lot of stations and CW action. This was exciting, as before I put up a regular dipole in my apartment, for the 20 meter band, and got absolutely nothing. I even went to the top up a nearby hill with the dipole (same receiver) and got a few strong Russian broadcasts, but not much. I'm on the first floor of the apartments, they are completely made of concrete and metal. So I'm assuming the ground reception was working, as I doubt many standard radio waves could make it in here.

This morning I got up and tried to see what I could hear with the tesla setup, and got nothing. I know this is normal with standard radio Hertzian waves, but I was assuming with the ground transmission/reception the night/day thing would not matter. I'm curious, has anybody with a semi-successful build noticed any difference in reception during the night and day?

Thanks,

Marcel

[dR-Green]

This morning I got up and tried to see what I could hear with the tesla setup, and got nothing. I know this is normal with standard radio Hertzian waves, but I was assuming with the ground transmission/reception the night/day thing would not matter. I'm curious, has anybody with a semi-successful build noticed any difference in reception during the night and day?

Hi Marcel. This might seem like a stupid question, but before anything else are you sure that nothing has moved and no cables have come loose etc? Did you try retuning it and still get nothing?

I haven't made any "scientific" observations on the matter in terms of radio reception, but I have noticed small variations in coil resonant frequencies between night and day, and from one day to the next. But I was always able to receive the same station regardless of all that, I didn't have to retune it every day, but some other stations like China Radio would come and go by the minute. But as I say there was no scientific measurements involved in any of this, I just got an audio output so I have no idea if there were differences that might be causing you problems, I would expect you to be able to get something by retuning it though. I'm not sure that it would be possible to receive absolutely nothing unless something is broken in the setup. Do you know the nearest AM transmitter to you? Try tuning in to that.

[brusers]

Hi Marcel. This might seem like a stupid question, but before anything else are you sure that nothing has moved and no cables have come loose etc? Did you try retuning it and still get nothing?

Hey,

Yes I had left it the same when I went to bed, just to make sure I didn't mess anything up. I was excited to get back up and listen to it. I think it's possible I just had it tuned up wrong. For example I never saw two peaks.. as Eric mentioned before. I also noticed the sensitivity around the cable was not much. I almost had to touch it to effect the signal.

Before I had it made as so, 41cm diameter, 20 turns rg-174 secondary, 2 turn primary of some 8mm coax, and a capacitor made equal surface area of copper stripping glued on two sides of a thin sheet of plexiglass type material. I rewound everything to be more like your original build, 0.8 mm enameled wire for both primary and secondary, keeping the 20/2 turn ratio. Now I get nothing, and it's 21:45 here in Finland. Should be hearing something. I get up at 0430 tomorrow, so I will check it again then.

What I think i need to do is just start over. And like you mentioned try for a local AM station. It will be easier to experiment with, rather than waiting for someone to CQ. I will use solid copper I think as well, on the next primary, and think up a new cap.

btw, (and to anyone reading this) on this comparison of Tesla transformer reception VS crysal radio.. I imagine it's easy for someone to argue that the phase difference is created by compnents.. e.g. coil phase shifting, etc. I don't see where this could happen in either setup, does anyone (more technically inclined possibly) see any possibility of this?

Thanks for the reply. As I get my setup to a point where I feel it's on the right track, I will start posting pics and data. And thank you for keeping your journey on the forum. I went all the way back, printing out your posts and replies as you built.. 150 something pages.. try to make it a quicker journey next time..

Thanks again,

Marcel

[jimm]

Radio Tesla

@dR-Green, and others that have been actively building coils.

I put together a primary/secondary setup for the 160 meter band. Last night when I finished it and got it ~tuned.. I hooked it up to my receiver (old Kenwood R-300) and was hearing a lot of stations and CW action. This was exciting, as before I put up a regular dipole in my apartment, for the 20 meter band, and got absolutely nothing. I even went to the top up a nearby hill with the dipole (same receiver) and got a few strong Russian broadcasts, but not much. I'm on the first floor of the apartments, they are completely made of concrete and metal. So I'm assuming the ground reception was working, as I doubt many standard radio waves could make it in here.

This morning I got up and tried to see what I could hear with the tesla setup, and got nothing. I know this is normal with standard radio Hertzian waves, but I was assuming with the ground transmission/reception the night/day thing would not matter. I'm curious, has anybody with a semi-successful build noticed any difference in reception during the night and day?

Thanks,

Marcel

Hello Marcell,

You did a quasi-science experiment without knowing it.
You proved that in your configuration the device works for EM reception, thus the F layer is still making a difference.

This the exact point that I have been trying to make about the "Dollard Beach Demo". It was hertzian mode.
You will get some em though you steel/concrete structre, attenuated, but it will work, just like a cell phone does. The effectiveness of a Faraday cage has to due with the closeness of the screen mesh called aperture.

Chicken wire will work for HF and below, but not for microwaves, for instance.
Take a look at the glass on your microwave. notice how small the mesh holes are.

Also tesla coils are usually hi-Q, so unless the band is real active, the chances of hearing something in a narrow range of frequencies within the TC bandwidth also diminishes. The TC is working sort of like the "preselector" on a ham rig, but it's not that easily tuned in it's standard TC config.
Once you tune away form the TC's specific BW, you will be down many db.

Have you tested the BW? What is the center frequency?

[brusers]

Hello Marcell,

Have you tested the BW? What is the center frequency?

Hello there,

Yes I tested the bandwidth, and it was rather wide, I dont recall the figures. Which is why I am assuming I tuned/built something wrong. Like I mentioned before, there was not two peaks. The two peaks being the transverse and longitudinal as eric mentions in a few of his videos. So yeah, I agree, I think that is what I have going on here. I just need to keep rebuilding until I find what I need.

About the beach video. I'm going to assume it's not Hertzian, and it is what Eric says it is. I'm not sure of the distance over the rocks, but he was picking up a pretty strong signal. I've personally built smaller coil arrangments that allowed me to send one wire power through my water pipes, from my basement to the second floor of my house, to a receiver coil arrangment, running a DC motor and a couple incandecent bulbs. They seemed just as bright/powerful as when I hooked them straight to the sending unit. (can't do that with Hertzian). So I know what Eric is talking about is real. I just never at that point thought about using it for radio reception/transmission. Also my arrangments at that point limited me to about that distance. They somewhat resembled the modern day tesla coils, and could not be designed good enough to get much further, so I kind of burned out on experimenting with them. Which is why I'm back at this now. There seems to be quite a bit of information out now on how to go about experimenting, thanks to Eric jumping in and having his work posted.

Br,

Marcel

[jimm]

Hello there,

Yes I tested the bandwidth, and it was rather wide, I dont recall the figures. Which is why I am assuming I tuned/built something wrong. Like I mentioned before, there was not two peaks. The two peaks being the transverse and longitudinal as eric mentions in a few of his videos. So yeah, I agree, I think that is what I have going on here. I just need to keep rebuilding until I find what I need.

About the beach video. I'm going to assume it's not Hertzian, and it is what Eric says it is. I'm not sure of the distance over the rocks, but he was picking up a pretty strong signal. I've personally built smaller coil arrangments that allowed me to send one wire power through my water pipes, from my basement to the second floor of my house, to a receiver coil arrangment, running a DC motor and a couple incandecent bulbs. They seemed just as bright/powerful as when I hooked them straight to the sending unit. (can't do that with Hertzian). So I know what Eric is talking about is real. I just never at that point thought about using it for radio reception/transmission. Also my arrangments at that point limited me to about that distance. They somewhat resembled the modern day tesla coils, and could not be designed good enough to get much further, so I kind of burned out on experimenting with them. Which is why I'm back at this now. There seems to be quite a bit of information out now on how to go about experimenting, thanks to Eric jumping in and having his work posted.

Br,

Marcel

Don't know how you have a broadband TC, perhaps you can tell us how you did that?


What frequency and power were you using input and what percentage were you able to recover when you transmitted power? Real Tesla mode is VLF and high voltage. if you don't have transmitter anywhere doing the above, then the receiver is Hertzian.
Note that Eric DID NOT light any bulbs on the beach at 3000 feet, I think it was, but was able to in the garage. All he had was a radio signal, ...which required a radio to receive.

The system is supposed to be able to recover 98% for at least hundreds of miles. I haven't seen it yet. In fact, I haven't seen for 300 feet!
If I am wrong, please direct me to a documented case.

Now, if I am annoying you by inadvertently going against "church doctrine", I apologize and will shut up. We don't need any more "holy wars".
If you want to believe that the entire 160 meter signal came though the ground, you are entitled to do so despite your own evidence to the contrary.

[dR-Green]

Yes, I found that a 12 volt Tesla coil emissions could be picked up on a car
radio from kilometers away. And my small Tesla coil can pick up the radio
ground connected or not. Tesla talks of signals and power transmission when
he speaks of power he means many Watts, the beach video showed a signal
and even I could do that.

Tesla also said that the planet needed to be thrown into resonance to see
the low loss power transmissions. It cannot be done on the small scale.

Hey Farmhand. No range tested here but similarly the radio out in the garage was picking up the interference up in the 89 Mc FM range when I was testing what turned out to be an unstable RF amplifier. But equally I could connect an AV plug and speaker to the earth of all the mains sockets and light switches out there with no antenna at all, just the earth connection. It's quite possible in that case that the radio was picking up the signal from the earth cables.

I think the fact whether "it cannot be done" remains to be seen. In my opinion it is possible in theory due to the principle of harmonics and resonance. Although keeping in mind discussions we've had in the past. This gives me an idea for an analogue (and digital) experiment I'd like to try with a drum.

What was the setup when you were receiving radio without ground connection? How was it all connected etc.

[dR-Green]

I also noticed the sensitivity around the cable was not much. I almost had to touch it to effect the signal.

What cable do you mean?

What I think i need to do is just start over. And like you mentioned try for a local AM station. It will be easier to experiment with, rather than waiting for someone to CQ.

I see. Yes you will have trouble with that for sure. In the meantime you could try tuning it down to the MW band, it should work even though it was designed for a higher frequency. I think to make use of the ham bands you will need 2 coils or work with someone else so there's some known or continuous signal to work with.

[dR-Green]

Jimm, what do you make of this top diagram, in particular the C0 plate, diodes and headphone section?