Eric P. Dollard is crazy.

[dR-Green]

Thank you John On a side note, at one time I had an SSG running near the flat spiral coil, the rotor would speed up, the charging battery voltage would rise quite quickly, and in the end it destroyed the power supply. So for those interested there may be some experimenting in that with SEC circuits or something. Perhaps even possible would be to make an AM radio band Telluric receiver and using the radiated energy to aid with the SSG charging Even if a tiny bit, it's free to the consumer/"listener".

[GSM]

1. Explain what longitudinal waves are in terms of vector calculus

2. Explain how longitudinal waves are transmitted and how one could get a ham radio to transmit them if at all possible.

Those who BELIEVE need to talk: those who know - don't !

Tenaus. As far as I am concerned you have asked so many impossible questions.

There are no EM waves - everything went wrong the moment Hertz said there were transverse waves and this became published.
Tesla knew otherwise because some of his radiated output was indeed in waves, those being a totally different technology to that in which you have been 'educated' = blinkered !

Those who are taught at University become arrogantly unaware that there is an entirely different understanding necessary before progress beyond classical engineering can be made. If you stay here and study instead of blundering about with unjustified self confident abandon, then you might just develop an entirely different comprehension to that where you are now !

As for your imaginary vector constructs - these relate to radiation and transduction.
There can be vertical polarisation, or horizontal, or slant, or even circulating rotary polarisation of either clockwise or anticlockwise. Okay ?

But what about when the direction of polarisation is in the same direction as propagation ?
Could you draw that as a simple two dimensional vector representation ?
No !
And don't say that this is impossible because it is what Tesla did 100+ years ago, and which Eric Dollard has freely been trying to explain to supposedly 'educated' people.

Also there is no way that a ham antenna could radiate longitudinal EM because for this to happen the radiating electrons must not be aligned by current, but by voltage. Indeed, radio operators go to great lengths to ensure that their EM is radiated transversely and not with any longitudinal components which would be deemed inefficency and SWR loss.

So Tenaus, do you unconditionally BELIEVE your 'educators', or do you really want to KNOW = re-learn ?

Also study Dr Geen's empirical EVIDENCE above for superluminal EM velocity. Or check out Dr Stiffler's work on YouTube.

Cheers .......... Graham.
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[Tenaus]

What I want to know, is the truth. The facts. What can truly advance humanity. But I'm not going to straight up believe what you guys say. I do not mean you are wrong or that I will not believe you, it is like this:

Who should I believe: A niche community of some wannabe scientists, a few real, and same with engineers? (Not trying to be offensive, but it is what it is).

Or a college university which has spent millions of dollars in equipment and other things in research with E.M waves.

I believe you guys may have a case here, and that's why I came in the first place. What I want to do it learn from both, then test it myself and who ever is more correct in my mind, takes the cake.

[Aaron]

do the experiments

You were already given the references to read: http://www.energeticforum.com/211102-post13.html

After you study everything there, then you can do the experiments. AFTER you do the experiments, you can then post your pictures and videos to report the results for everyone to review.

Any talk before doing the experiments is meaningless.

[boguslaw]

Although I'm not an expert in any sense I think transverse EM waves may be projections of some strange longitudinal wave cause by measurement and theory expectation. Analogy in nature would be wind and trees movement caused by wind. Nobody states that because trees movement is transverse then wind has to be transverse wave also.

[Joit]

I would say, its pretty obvious, that this guy is a Mathematician, but not a Technician and thinks, he can anything disprove, when he can't calculate it with his borked Formulas, because they are the standard.

Its like one from these Guys who thought he can disproove Meyl with his formulas, the best answer what Meyl could give, was, if he want to calculate it that way, then he should feel free to do so.
Yeah, anyone can calculate anthing, but if its real is at an other Paper.

I am still not sure about the Term Scalar and Longitudinal Wave, what some Guys before 100 Years did try to describe.
There are different Descriptions for it, like, the Ship, what becomes its own Motion on a Sea with small waves, but the Waves at different Frequencies.

But its very simple. The Classical Theorie did take Terms, mostly stolen from better Scientist there, put them into her standart and used them for her Purpose. If its right or not or fully understood or not.
They have some showpice, where they behave, as if some Formulas there match on anything, and claim it as final Truth.

Then go and calculate Joule thief style Coils, because alot claim, its only a transformer too.
Is it that why some suddenly claim OU on a LED to distract from the Circuit?

I only need to look at a galvanic Element, Magnesium and Graphit with Water.
When you take Electricity from there, the magnesium pole dissolves into the Water.
The Graphit Pole DOES NOT CHANGE AT ALL.
So, Current runs from "Plus" to "Minus" ? I guess i need to puke now.
But thats a Basic Knowledge in Classic Theories, since when? Over 100 Years, because one Guy tied 2 Batteries together and claimed to have found the 'Pluspole", and afterwards all sheeps did bleating the same Song.

[garrettm4]

Are Engineers Smarter Than Physicists?

Tenaus,

I find your approach to getting answers laughable! Any reasonable man who wants an answer to a question doesn't go on a rampage expounding how someone else is wrong. Is this thread some sort of shock and awe psychobabble attempt at an intelligent argument? You should first contemplate what the "defendants" are actually trying to say before making assumptions, let alone starting an argumentative debate - which is never the way to begin a constructive conversation.

I hope you can learn to "ground" yourself for the sake of your own learning and personal well being. Your one step away from living a life of dogma and closed mindedness. One that far too many people live in today's scientific world.

Work on the subject of superluminal propagation has been done by many other people, NOT just Dollard et al, with similar results:





Further these Radio Engineers, whom I assume get paid to make things work on a daily basis, had NO PROBLEM at coming to the same conclusions as Eric P Dollard. Why you or your Physicist friend couldn't have even come close to to matching these gentlemen in practical results is because YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BUILT ANYTHING and OBSERVED the result. You merely sit at a computer trolling away with you're supposed enlightenment, as to how your right and how someone else is wrong without actual experiment.

Longitudinal Propagation:

Why can't the magnetic field be aligned with the electric field when dealing with a single layer solenoidal coil? The MUTUAL near-field interactions of each INDIVIDUAL loop allow for this. This is why propagation velocity can exceed c when it should be below c at all times. A straight wire has a v lower than c, further if not in vacuum extraneous permittivity slows down the maximum attainable speed as well.

Two axes of movement are available when considering the E and H vectors propagation; longitudinal between windings = mutual near-field interaction & transverse along the length of the wire = "self" interaction. This causes an ANGLE to be observed between the two, this angle determines the observed v relative to c. The mutual coupled near-fields cut across while the "self interacting" near-fields move along the entire length of the wire. This relationship is found to be dependent on turn diameter more than turn count as is shown by empirical evidence.

Concluding, the LONGITUDINAL near-field propagation is strictly dealing with MUTUAL coupling between turns, when calculating the propagation velocity in a single layer solenoid you have to account for BOTH the length of the wire (for transverse propagation) AND the mutual interactions between turns - which is, for the most part, turn diameter dependent.

Further, TEM isn't the only mode of transverse propagation, have you ever looked in a radio engineering book? There are multiple modes that have E or H in the same direction as S (TE & TM). Wave guide cavities don't work like a pair of straight wires this is why these other modes exist. I don't see why you or your friend think that the H-field can't be in the same direction as S. If not in TEM mode you have HYBRID modes of propagation that have some residual LONGITUDINAL components, this is why there are modes that have E and H in the same direction as S. More explicitly, longitudinal fields are in in the same direction as the propagating energy S. A 100% LMD wave would have E, H & S all in the same direction, a 100% TEM wave would have E, H & S ALL at 90* to one another where S is the direction of propagation. Since we don't usually have 100% of any one mode we get the hybrid modes that have ratios of the two and hence variable propagation velocity v that can be lower or greater than c as a result.

Regards,
Garrett M

[Tenaus]

Very impressive. I want to stress that the OP was my friends words only, and not my own. I pretended to post as him because one can easily observe who someone else is by seeing the reaction of someone like him. People who are playing around and are only getting results because they are too stupid like he said would definitely make a much different reaction then what I have seen as a whole.

People who don't know what they are doing would either: 1. conform to authority, 2. insult and bad-mouth, 3. try to explain and fail at doing so.

None of which I have seen here. I want to maintain that I have come here for the other side, and so far I am impressed.

Thank you for the very informative post.

A while back I actually theorized that the 'longitudinal wave' within the coil was the electricity spinning around the magnetic field made by the coil, similarly to how a longitudinal wave forms in plasma.

[wonju]

This will be my only post in this thread. I decided to reply because I see this thread as the perfect example of the ignorance that I referred to in my latest thread! And that is why half of the article was dedicated to educate these persons on the basics of the transformers.

@ Tenaus,
First of all, I want to recommend you the following book “Emotional Intelligence: Why it Can Matter More Than IQ” By Daniel Goldman. It cost less than $13 and you can buy it here:

Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ: Daniel Goleman: 9780553383713: Amazon.com: Books

You have one of the lowest emotional intelligence I’ve ever witnessed in a person with “formal education.” Just because something does not make sense to you, it does not give you the right to charge against a person in such crazy manner. It is ok to express your disagreement, but do it in a manner that you want others to treat you; with respect.

Second, technically speaking, I disagree with most of your statement, which is loaded with contradictions and lack of knowledge in the basics of electricity and physics. For example,

in item #18 you states,
“Jesus Christ, transformers are completely understood by using Faraday’s Law. Good God the stupidity is just overwhelming.” And,

In item #20,
“FLUX LINES DON’T HAVE TO TOUCH THE WIRE AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A CLOSE AREA! Good God, have these guys never even taken a course in E.M. This stuff was understood in the 19th century.

DIDN’T YOU LEARN FROM HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS THAT IN ORDER TO INDUCE A VOLTAGE IN A CONDUCTOR THE MAGNETIC FLUX LINES MUST CUT THE WIRE? IF THE MAGNETIC FIELD AND WIRE DO NOT INTERACT, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO INDUCE A VOLTAGE? DO YOU REALLY KNOW FARADAY'S INDUCTION LAW?

If you want to learn how transformers work, please, refer to my latest thread and download the document shown in post #10. You can download the document from here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post211172

Your apology found in post #11 is not accepted! If you supposed you have to apologize, YOU ARE NOT BEING HONEST!

HOWEVER, WE WILL ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY IF YOU TELL US THAT THE DISPLAYED ANIMAL BEHAVIOUR WAS CAUSED BY A MOMENTARY INSANITY DUE TO A SERIOUS ELECTRIC SHOCK WHEN TRYING TO REPLICATE ONE OF ERIC’S EXPERIMENTS. THEN, WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE IN PAIN WHEN YOUR BRAIN WAS SMOKING!

[Tenaus]

Excuse me, should I restate everything I said in my previous post? Those are not my words or my opinion.

You don't even know anything about me except that I know a person who has a minor in CE, major in physics, and Ph.D in pure physics.

If you want me to give my real opinion go ahead and ask for it instead of assuming that I agree.

[ashtweth]

Eric has a mean temper and he has every reason to be CRANKY!
If he is crazy than so am i and every one in this forum

I remember Tom and others giving him donations and help, pitty he never got the big endorsement, you cant tell me that guy would not progress some thing.

This is for Eric
Eric, you cranky SOB we love you.

Thats all


Ash

[soundiceuk]

One day I hope to be able to support Eric P. Dollard financially.

He should be paid very well in some way for the education he can provide our children about almost forgotten technology.

[mr.clean]

holy.. dumbass!

Please for the love of God don't try to duplicate any of this work. You will get yourself killed. These guys are quacks and they have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

Some highlights from this video:

1) There was no mysterious current between the two close circuits, all it was was Faraday's Law and this perfectly well understood. That guy Eric Dollard has no idea what the hell he is talking about. This phenonema moves at the speed of light and he is too stupid to realize it is 200 years old.

2) Magnetic forces can't point in the direction of the propagation, this would contradict one of the fudamental laws of E.M. and would also invalidiate all of Tesla's work on motors. These guys are too stupid to realize it.

3) D.C. current does not have a "scalar frequency" it has no frequency. Frequency by defintion implies osscilation.

4) He has no idea what a square wave is practically.

5) You do not **** around with equipment like they are doing.

6) He doesn't know what displacement current means.

7) Coils function as inductors not capacitors.

8) He doesn't understand anything about basic circuit theory.

9) For the love of God you do not **** around with thousand of amps if you're not in a professional laboratory.

10) Circuits loops are not named after radiation.

11) He is just playing around with his equipment. There is no way any of this is statistically valid meaning on top of not understanding the theory, experiment, etc he has no idea whether his data is just due to random variation.

12) His "longitudinal current" is most likely noise from this big cathode.

13) He doesn't have enough equipment to measure the speed of the wave. Meaning he thinks he is measureing the speed of the wave but he is to dumb to realize he isn't.

14) He doesn't understand what an inverse is. The basic things he was saying about capacitors, inverses, etc were all wrong. This guy has had no formal training, at all.

15) They have no idea how to demonstrate a longitudinal wave. THIS IS VERY IMPORANT: That longitudinal wave they claim is moving at unlimited speed is actually moving much slower than the speed of light.

16) Nerves to do not communicate with each other with longitudinal radiation, they do so with current.

17) The aether was not banned. Sometimes reputable scientists still talk about it but most have abandoned it since it allowed us to drastically simplify theory and led us to relativity theory. These guys have no idea of the history of this things.

18) Jesus Christ, transformers are completely understood by using Faraday's Law. Good god the stupidity is just overwhelming.

19) You do not need a toroid in between the loops to cause a current in the other loop. Air is more than enough. This is simply Faraday's Law, they are actually confusing this with radiation and think this is mysterious?

20) FLUX LINES DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE WIRE AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A CLOSE AREA! Good God, have these guys never even taken a course in E.M. This stuff was understood in the 19th century.

21) Electrostatics mean no moving charge. They are actually talking about an entirely different phenomena without realizing it.


These guys are not electrical engineers they are stupid electricians and its completely obvious. My minor is in electrical engineering and there is no way you could ever complete an introductory class in E.M in a reputable university and believe any of the stuff these guys are staying.

In short, please don't try to duplicate these wacko's work. They are lucky they haven't killed themselves yet; you may not be so lucky. Please go to a reputable source if you want to learn about capacitors, inductor, current, etc.

These guys are conspiracy theorists on top of it all, like 9/11 types. Did you see there crazy diatribe at the end how they were claiming Einstein was persecuted since he believed in the Aether. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALL OF EINSTEINS WORK WAS ABOUT DISPROVING THE AETHER. This flew in the face of everyone and he was actually not widely believed early on because of it. In other words, they are claiming Einstein was persecuted for believing in a theory that he was the one that disproved in face of the convention that believe in it.

My favorite quote: 15 minute exposure and I found I was getting a 100% mutation in radish seeds.

WTF!

As one more small point, there is no way he is producing the radiation he is claiming at that frequency because if he was he would already be blind.

Here's a big point: Can any of you explain what a longitudinal wave is in terms of vector calculus? If not, you have no credibility because you don't even understand what a E.M wave is mathematically.

You call these waves Magneto-Dielectric, can you please tell me: In a dielectric, what is the difference between H and B and explain the occasional difference in conventions between these defitions.

Oh jeez, i try to be easy on newbies, but actually given that your comment is SO intentionally rude and unwarranted, i hope you leave this post up here to clearly demonstrate your ignorance for later after you learn some basics.

you are so far off its not even funny

hehe it is evident out of your many incorrect statements, that you are very new to electronics and certainly the unconventional topics discussed here.

actually there are many faults with your rant, but to correct one, is the "capacitance of a coil", can be greatly increased bringing the furthest winding of a coil overlapping the first winding. or even having the windings closer or further can affect this.
this can increase the "self-capacitance" of a coil. thats white-belt stuff.

you do this enough times and you have a higher "self-capacitance", and you can then create an LC tank circuit within one component, needing only its resonant freq and a given amplitude.

that "resonant" freq determined by factors L and C, and LC being contained together is a great thing. any builder knows that

that didnt need any calculus or formal training of any kind

ideal DC could be in fact considered a scalar function, (simply put, not varying in time or space) given that the voltage is not decreasing. and it would be more accurate to call the DC current 100% duty cycle at whatever the voltage.

the term frequency and DC dont really make sense together, unless you were pulsing on and off say 60hz, that would give a square wave at the freq of the pulse.
and the duration of the on-time within that frequency, could be called duty cycle.

In the early 1900's Tesla said he knew based on his results and work that indeed hertzian wave travels at the speed of light, but that there is another "impulse" which travels thru the ground at a "much faster rate".

He observed these impulses, and had very detailed calculations of all his work.
a must read are the Colorado Springs Notes 1899-1900.
Much of the topics you tried to de-bunk were well known 100 years ago
...and documented... Tesla is not the only one who knew about the Longitudonal wave

these are very basic things which should be obvious to a know-it-all like yourself

You do realize that Eric overloaded the reverse breakers at the power station in Belanus California while conducting his Tesla-type experiments?...

meaning that for a moment before the breakers switched, he was producing more power than the entire town...
...in other words, more than the towns entire power source (impossible to you, but thats what happened)
His "radio devices" now banned there.
i guess the city had a major shut-down resulting
oh well, shouldve used higher value components eh Belanus?

you see "crackpots" get ignored, and are discovered very quickly in public presentation...

..Eric was invited and has spoken at multiple public lectures regarding advanced electronics and even conventional minded experienced HAM operator lectures...

...guess what...after all this time... YOU are the only one who is disagreeing with Eric's work right now....


in fact, the evidence now dictates that "your" input is completely irrelevant, and even dis-informative.

so do us all a favour and leave your message up
and when you re-confirm Eric's information, you will be greatly embarassed

here is some of my own work, and Eric Dollard helped me a lot in my learning
Don Smith Device Project Part 31: 3 Watts In, 20 Watt Halogen Lit Bright - YouTube

[dR-Green]

Excuse me, should I restate everything I said in my previous post? Those are not my words or my opinion.

You don't even know anything about me except that I know a person who has a minor in CE, major in physics, and Ph.D in pure physics.

If you want me to give my real opinion go ahead and ask for it instead of assuming that I agree.

Unfortunately for you, the first post is so outlandish that you are now experiencing the consequences of people reading it and immediately reacting, you threw the boomerang and now it's coming back rapidly towards your head. Perhaps you should edit the first post and explain BEFORE the commentary that what follows are not your words, otherwise you can probably expect some more insults. But there's no escaping for the expert I'm afraid, the fate of the thread as far as productivity goes was lost or swamped before it even began.

[Berg]

In support of Eric P. Dollard

Please for the love of God don't try to duplicate any of this work. You will get yourself killed. These guys are quacks and they have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

Some highlights from this video:

1) There was no mysterious current between the two close circuits, all it was was Faraday's Law and this perfectly well understood. That guy Eric Dollard has no idea what the hell he is talking about. This phenonema moves at the speed of light and he is too stupid to realize it is 200 years old.

2) Magnetic forces can't point in the direction of the propagation, this would contradict one of the fudamental laws of E.M. and would also invalidiate all of Tesla's work on motors. These guys are too stupid to realize it.

3) D.C. current does not have a "scalar frequency" it has no frequency. Frequency by defintion implies osscilation.

4) He has no idea what a square wave is practically.

5) You do not **** around with equipment like they are doing.

6) He doesn't know what displacement current means.

7) Coils function as inductors not capacitors.

8) He doesn't understand anything about basic circuit theory.

9) For the love of God you do not **** around with thousand of amps if you're not in a professional laboratory.

10) Circuits loops are not named after radiation.

11) He is just playing around with his equipment. There is no way any of this is statistically valid meaning on top of not understanding the theory, experiment, etc he has no idea whether his data is just due to random variation.

12) His "longitudinal current" is most likely noise from this big cathode.

13) He doesn't have enough equipment to measure the speed of the wave. Meaning he thinks he is measureing the speed of the wave but he is to dumb to realize he isn't.

14) He doesn't understand what an inverse is. The basic things he was saying about capacitors, inverses, etc were all wrong. This guy has had no formal training, at all.

15) They have no idea how to demonstrate a longitudinal wave. THIS IS VERY IMPORANT: That longitudinal wave they claim is moving at unlimited speed is actually moving much slower than the speed of light.

16) Nerves to do not communicate with each other with longitudinal radiation, they do so with current.

17) The aether was not banned. Sometimes reputable scientists still talk about it but most have abandoned it since it allowed us to drastically simplify theory and led us to relativity theory. These guys have no idea of the history of this things.

18) Jesus Christ, transformers are completely understood by using Faraday's Law. Good god the stupidity is just overwhelming.

19) You do not need a toroid in between the loops to cause a current in the other loop. Air is more than enough. This is simply Faraday's Law, they are actually confusing this with radiation and think this is mysterious?

20) FLUX LINES DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE WIRE AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A CLOSE AREA! Good God, have these guys never even taken a course in E.M. This stuff was understood in the 19th century.

21) Electrostatics mean no moving charge. They are actually talking about an entirely different phenomena without realizing it.


These guys are not electrical engineers they are stupid electricians and its completely obvious. My minor is in electrical engineering and there is no way you could ever complete an introductory class in E.M in a reputable university and believe any of the stuff these guys are staying.

In short, please don't try to duplicate these wacko's work. They are lucky they haven't killed themselves yet; you may not be so lucky. Please go to a reputable source if you want to learn about capacitors, inductor, current, etc.

These guys are conspiracy theorists on top of it all, like 9/11 types. Did you see there crazy diatribe at the end how they were claiming Einstein was persecuted since he believed in the Aether. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALL OF EINSTEINS WORK WAS ABOUT DISPROVING THE AETHER. This flew in the face of everyone and he was actually not widely believed early on because of it. In other words, they are claiming Einstein was persecuted for believing in a theory that he was the one that disproved in face of the convention that believe in it.

My favorite quote: 15 minute exposure and I found I was getting a 100% mutation in radish seeds.

WTF!

As one more small point, there is no way he is producing the radiation he is claiming at that frequency because if he was he would already be blind.

Here's a big point: Can any of you explain what a longitudinal wave is in terms of vector calculus? If not, you have no credibility because you don't even understand what a E.M wave is mathematically.

You call these waves Magneto-Dielectric, can you please tell me: In a dielectric, what is the difference between H and B and explain the occasional difference in conventions between these defitions.

I support Eric P. Dollard.

Berg