Why Doesn't Dollard Believe In Evolution

[Aaron]

Eric Dollard creation

Maybe we could get Dollard to reply in this thread as to what's going on?

Eric grew up Lutheran and believes in God and Jesus Christ.

His creation views, I'll ask him.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to do a video interview with him for a while, but can do one by phone. If you have other questions for Eric specific to his topic, please post them here and maybe we can do a whole call on this topic. Depending on how much time we have to set this up, I might be able to make a live conference call where you can dial in and ask him yourself.

[BroMikey]

Great Answer

Well, it figures that this is the most popular thread on the EPD forum doesn't it.

I can't answer on Eric's behalf, but I will say that just because someone doesn't believe one thing, it doesn't mean that they are bound to believe its supposed opposite.

In the words of Walter Russell, this is a creating universe, not a created one.

If you don't believe the theory of evolution as it is proposed, then you must be a creationist.

If you don't vote left wing, then you must have voted right wing.

If you think that all politicians are corrupt, then you must be an anarchist.

Poppycock!

You are so right people tend to put everything into a tiny little box so neat and easy to stereotype away like under the rug so they can get back to their "I am right, (way of thinking)" and this one is incorrect because I say so or think so.

Eric is a thinker. Way beyond this school boy philosophy with shallow 5 minute theories that lead to nothing and come from nothing, then it's back to the same ole careless way of living as well as their thinking.

Religion is about the worship of personality fueled by the control of people by controlling their money first.

The "Self Existent One" also known as the "UNKNOWN GOD" and is quite another subject well set part from the false religious system.

Jesus Christ and the forgiveness of sins is used as a lever in religion to heap guilty on top of people, grievous burdens, as the tool or weapon against their opponent.

Religion and religious leaders are trained to catch the prey, beat those wild asses in to guilty bewilderment dangling them over hot fire in order to fleece.

Religion serves and worships money and the power that money brings and therefore countless generations have been indoctrinated by men who spend their whole lives trapping those who they want to control with lying words.

I should know because for the last 40 years I have been in the ministry and watched all of these things be revealed to me.

Most will never give it that much thought but if they ever get to the place where they do not look for the truth of existence in this packaged sterilized form just mentioned, they are generally completely lost without any clue as to what to think.

In other words that must be told what to think.

This is where the truth will be accessed.

Eric is a genius and sees past the manipulation of man with their versions and models.

Mike

[Farmhand]

Evolution in general cannot be denied, plants evolve as we speak as do other
animals, some may consider most humans to be devolving (if that is a word)
but that cannot be said for all humans. If humankind did not evolve between the
500 000 BC and now then what did happen, did humans back then have the
same brain weight and anatomy, gait ect.

When exactly was it that humans appeared as we are now ?

Humans can and have studied animals with very short life spans and seen them
evolve. Camels are born with calloused Knees so I have heard a result of
evolution or was the first herd of camels just created with calloused knees and a
gene pool with variety.

I'm an Atheist, but what some would consider spiritual. I pray to the heavens
(cosmos) for assistance but only when in dire straights, sometimes it helps if
only to clear my mind or calm me.

Cheers

[Berg]

..and of course, the evolutionists explain away these elongated skulls by claiming that they are the result of the practice of artificial cranial deformations.



They'll even try to tell you that that is probably what happened to this infant with the elongated skull.



Berg

[Farmhand]

So how come we don't all have elongated skulls, a few possibilities for those
skulls, disease, a different species of humanoid, head binding ect.

But if they are a different specie what does that have to do with us, and if
they were different to other humans at the time and not a different species
and also no disease or head binding then that points to evolution for the
mutation change.

Cross breading of a cosmic race and humans would produce a hybrid.

Are some of those adult skulls.

What do you suggest those skulls are in reality, aliens ? Hybrid alien humans ?

How do creationists explain mutation evolution, my contention was that
evolution in general cannot be denied. I never said there was no outside
intervention somewhere along the line in human development. But evolution is real.

Cheers

[Berg]

I agree, Mr. Darwin.



Yep.. Clearly the result of evolution.

Berg

[BroMikey]

Of Course

I agree, Mr. Darwin.



Yep.. Clearly the result of evolution.

Berg

Hi Guys

Of course mankind has adapted and if this is evolution to you I agree. But the evolution that most people are talking about is creation from no where random genetic combinations popping out of thin air from nothing.

Darwin was high on coke-a-cola and funded by those who run the world and point the guns if you don't give the right answer.

Everyone else just yes men. Yuppies we call'em here in the states.

To think that random chance formed the worlds with all of it's intricate matrix that reflect endless mathematical equation is pure ignorance.

Ignoring does not make the matrix go away.

This is my personal view and does not reflect the views of others.

Mike

[Aaron]

Eric Dollard Evolution vs Creation

Latest Q & A with Eric Dollard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn2dfIA7SL8

Includes Facebook questions, a few things from Energetic Forum with math terminology and evolution.

[TheoriaApophasis]

Why doesn't Dollard believe in evolution? Does he have any evidence to justify his beliefs in a created earth?

Knowing more than all of you combined on the topic times 100X, (no offense)...


Dollards position is neither nihilistic atomism nor absurd insane Creationism.


Dollards position is 100% in line with that of the Pythagoreans and Platonists, i.e. Emanationism , or PROODOS in Greek.


The logical, rational position of Pythagoras, that of Emanationism, is 100% contrary to the common idiot today who can only think in terms of either Atomism or nihil ex nihilo (an absurdity) and something as insane, that of Creationism.


Try reading Plotinus.

[dward]

Thank you Theoria for displaying such arrogance. Did you get that post from wikipedia?

Nothing wrong with the Platonism or any of the other Greeks for that matter but seriously was that necessary?

wow.....

Sincerely,

"the common idiot"

[vidbid]

Knowing more than all of you combined on the topic times 100X

Pride ends in humiliation, while humility brings honor. Proverbs 29:23 (NLT)

Regards,

VIDBID

[TheoriaApophasis]

Thank you Theoria for displaying such arrogance. Did you get that post from wikipedia?

I translate ancient Prakrit, Pali , Sanskrit and specifically ancient Greek.

I make 100% income off lectures of Greek metaphysics and write books on philosophy and have several published translations from the Pali and Greek.


Youre confusing arrogance with genuine intellect. its a common error found on the web.

Arrogance is one thing, genuine knowledge is another, often called "arrogant" by lesser minds.


And yes, Dollard is espousing Emanationism, word for word in how Dollard explains his "version of the unfolding of the Universe"


Might I remind you Dollard mentions Pythagoras ALL THE TIME.

You will not meet anyone on earth more studied or learned on the topic of Pythagoras and Platonism than myself.

Creation via Emanationism or PROODOS is set out in the Timaeus of Plato, which in fact is just a copy of a text of Pythagoras acquired by Plato himself.

Please don't presume you know something about a topic you in fact know nothing about.



I support Dollard, have bought all his books, and recommend a large following I have to give monies directly TO Dollard, of which several I know firsthand have done so.

That alone should suffice for you and any other Dollard supporters.


I retired at age 32, currently 41, own 3 homes and I "put my money where my mouth is"


I give funds directly to Dollard and want nothing from Dollard other than he does what he wants, and continues his work and research. He is a rare and pure scientist and his endeavors are supported.

If Dollard even ran into financial difficulty, I would gladly donate one of my empty homes for him to live in.

Poor Dollard has been 'shafted' by nefarious nuts out there and he deserves to live comfortably and continue his work in peace.



How much funds have you generated to help Dollard?

Would help the world far more to give Dollard your spare change than someone starving in another country. Dollards work promises to help all humanity ultimately. Go send him some funds.


Lux et Veritas

[TheoriaApophasis]

Pride ends in humiliation, while humility brings honor. Proverbs 29:23 (NLT)

Regards,

VIDBID

Im not a christian, nor an Atheist. Your bible has no meaning to myself.


Go paypal $10 to Dollard and "tend to your own knitting" , save the religion for the "religion room" wherever that may be.


"the fool mistakes intellect and wisdom for pride. Wisdom itself appears as pride and arrogance to the common man" - Proclus

[mbrownn]

Interesting debate

First I will say I don't believe in any religion, not even atheism and Darwinians arguments are clearly flawed. I don't know much of the other people mentioned in this debate either. The big bang theory is utter tosh to me.

I do have a mind of my own and come up with my own ideas, these ideas may be similar to the people mentioned in this debate but I don't know. Instead of talking about what someone else has said why don't we talk about what we think?

I think it is possible that many of the Darwin theories have validity but it clearly does not explain everything about life. I don't believe in a creator either, that is a white bearded angry man in the sky.

I know that it is impossible for random events to cause the right reactions to form life but all these atoms and molecules are not random. They are made up of things that are not random either. If we throw 10000 bar magnets in the air, they will begin to organize as they fall, when they come to rest you will see some patterns in the way they are arranged. This is not random, its not survival of the fittest nor is it creationism.

It may be that beings from another world or dimension have had influence on earth, but I don't know that. Even if they did it is irrelevant because we have to ask how they came about.

I don't have an answer as to how all this happened but I do have an open mind.

Please share your thoughts on how this all came about and leave Eric in peace.

[dward]

I translate ancient Prakrit, Pali , Sanskrit and specifically ancient Greek.

I make 100% income off lectures of Greek metaphysics and write books on philosophy and have several published translations from the Pali and Greek.


Youre confusing arrogance with genuine intellect. its a common error found on the web.

Arrogance is one thing, genuine knowledge is another, often called "arrogant" by lesser minds.


And yes, Dollard is espousing Emanationism, word for word in how Dollard explains his "version of the unfolding of the Universe"


Might I remind you Dollard mentions Pythagoras ALL THE TIME.

You will not meet anyone on earth more studied or learned on the topic of Pythagoras and Platonism than myself.

Creation via Emanationism or PROODOS is set out in the Timaeus of Plato, which in fact is just a copy of a text of Pythagoras acquired by Plato himself.

Please don't presume you know something about a topic you in fact know nothing about.



I support Dollard, have bought all his books, and recommend a large following I have to give monies directly TO Dollard, of which several I know firsthand have done so.

That alone should suffice for you and any other Dollard supporters.


I retired at age 32, currently 41, own 3 homes and I "put my money where my mouth is"


I give funds directly to Dollard and want nothing from Dollard other than he does what he wants, and continues his work and research. He is a rare and pure scientist and his endeavors are supported.

If Dollard even ran into financial difficulty, I would gladly donate one of my empty homes for him to live in.

Poor Dollard has been 'shafted' by nefarious nuts out there and he deserves to live comfortably and continue his work in peace.



How much funds have you generated to help Dollard?

Would help the world far more to give Dollard your spare change than someone starving in another country. Dollards work promises to help all humanity ultimately. Go send him some funds.


Lux et Veritas

Good for you on all counts. My quip was merely reflecting the fact that your post is nearly word for word the Wikipedia definition of emanationsim... just saying.

Not all of us have money. I certainly don't. What money I do have goes to pay for the necessities of life. I hardly ever drive(gas is quite expensive), and am careful about the amount of money i spend on food(it's quite a large portion of what I earn unfortunately). Good for you being rich. I choose Joy and gratitude over wealth... it lasts longer.

TBH i have spent nearly all my life in academic settings and your attitude is exactly the same as found there. "Intellect" is a thinly veiled excuse for arrogance. I've even been there myself. One can boast as much as one wants but translating things is a mere skill. Reading and repeating and synthesizing is definitely not a mark of genuine intelligence, it is mere thought; all mind, and lacks true life and soul from which intelligence springs. But stick with your cold intellect, clearly you profit from it.