Research literature of EE topics/ TMT clarification

[Deco56]

Hi All,

This forum has been a great help in clarifiying my understanding of TMT principles and guiding me. For that, I thank you. Now a few topics I need to clear up in my mind to further my understanding...

First of all, let me give you a brief rundown of my own understanding as it pertains to the TMT. The TMT in essence, is a Tesla coil with an extra coil driven by Tesla's hairpin circuit (or 1/2 turn primary). The TMT is driven by either impulses or AC. It sends current through the ground (ground currents) to other parts of the Earth and establishes a virtual ground in the process. There is very little radiation and it is mostly telluric currents.... Obviously, there are other specifics which I will not get into, I have actually sent Eric a letter and hope to hear from him in the coming months...

Now, for the clarification:

Please watch the following video: Superluminal Scalar Waves for Communications - YouTube

I believe "The Old Scientist" has a correct set up and understanding. I have some questions about the video and I hope someone can clear this up.

First of all, is this a full TMT set up? Or just the tesla coil? How does he adjust the radio so it receives signals from outside the box without being grounded (and therefore part of the transmission line)? How is he transmitting to the modified radio if there is no ground connection? How did he modify the antennae of the radio to receive these different signals? I see he uses both pulses and AC, how does pulses effect the output? How could someone re-create this experiment?

General questions: I know these are not transverse EM waves, are they any type or wave or just conduction current? Am I missing something in my understanding? What are the most critical factors?

Can someone reference some good EE literature for research? For example L.F Blume's Abnormal Voltages, parametric excitation, Townsend Brown effect?

Please do not leave anything out in your explanations!
Thank you all so much!

[indio007]

First of all, is this a full TMT set up?

No. Look at the patent. There is a metal cylinder on the TMT.

[Deco56]

Yes, ok.....any more input?

[dR-Green]

It is a curious thing. The radio in a metal tin which will supposedly block radio signals need not be modified in any way. "Polarity" makes no difference in this case. The antenna is simply picking up the signal. One could equally connect the antenna to the earth or put it in the space near the radiating source in order to receive the same thing. The antenna is simply responding to the oscillations.

As far as putting a radio in a metal tin in an effort to block the signal is concerned, I fear that it is a futile effort, since the whole tin is energised and oscillating in unison with the radiating source. So to have an antenna inside or outside the tin makes little difference. The antenna that's inside the tin is receiving the signal from the tin itself.

A TMT consists of a secondary coil coupled to (generally) a 2 turn primary coil. The extra coil is coupled to the secondary coil.

Keep in mind that the TMT need not be "necessarily" grounded - that is simply the transmission medium in that mode of operation. One could just as well use a wire or human bodies as the transmission medium. The free end of the coil always remains free, and the output is the ground end of the coil, whatever you choose to connect it to.

A typical so-called "Tesla coil" will exhibit the same effects, but these long cylinder coils aren't optimised according to Tesla's (mostly empty space) design and they also don't have an extra coil, but the extra coil is not critical to achieve the basic principle. TheOldScientist doesn't have a full/real TMT setup.

[Deco56]

Thanks for the reply!

I thought the Earth was crucial as acting as a transmission line. Could the ground end of the coil be open too (transmit through air)? Or does this only work for short distances?

Which reference describes the best the theory? Eric Dollard's "wireless power"? Any other material?

I am constantly trying to wrap my head fully around this...

I hope to build one for academic work....any full manuals on how to build one?

[dR-Green]

The earth is crucial if you are transmitting through the earth and intend to transmit over some distance, my point was that there are also other experiments that can be done including all the single wire experiments that Tesla talked about. You can use your body as the transmission line for example, but obviously unless you have infinitely long limbs then it's no good for any practical transmission.

Eric's books are a good place to start, but perhaps even better are his forum posts on here. Some of the more practical information is condensed in the first few posts on this thread

http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-d...ompendium.html

If you really want to understand it then you will have to eventually stop reading and get building, that way what you read will also make more sense.

[wayne.ct]

Your questions and your understanding

I may be wrong but I do have an opinion about what you are saying. Basically, I think your understanding is not correct. Let me respond to your questions and perhaps it will help. I don't think I will be able to correct your understanding, but I can try.

First of all, is this a full TMT set up?

A: No, a superficial examination of the two seems to indicate there is not that much in common.

Or just the tesla coil?

A: I have seen other videos by TheOldScientist and the Tesla coil seems to be quite conventional.

How does he adjust the radio so it receives signals from outside the box without being grounded (and therefore part of the transmission line)?

A: If you listen carefully to the audio you will notice that the radio is NOT modified. The accent or dialect may be hard to follow, but it is not THAT hard. The transmitter is his contribution, the radio is conventional.

How is he transmitting to the modified radio if there is no ground connection?

A: Where to people get the idea that a ground connection is needed? The fact is that a ground connection is NOT needed, ever, unless the design of the radio depends on it for some reason. Any two points in space are either at the same potential or not. The only requirement is that you amplify that difference and filter in or out what you want to so that you end up with what you want, hopefully something useful. As far as how is concerned, he is using a longitudinal wave, just like he is saying.

How did he modify the antennae of the radio to receive these different signals?

A: He didn't.

I see he uses both pulses and AC, how does pulses effect the output?

A: He uses pulses to create the longitudinal wave. What I don't understand is why YOU don't understand.

How could someone re-create this experiment?

A: First, watch ALL his videos and build a coil like his. You will need to understand some electronics and wave theory, but since you understand the TMT as you do, that should be easy. Second, you need to buy or borrow the test equipment that he has. Not particularly hard, unless you are short on cash. Third, repeat some of his earlier experiments so you have a basic understanding of what he is trying to say.

General questions: I know these are not transverse EM waves, are they any type or wave or just conduction current?

A: They are not just ANY kind of wave, they are LONGITUDINAL waves. And, no, what I would call conduction current is electromagnetic. In other words, conduction current is transverse.

Am I missing something in my understanding?

A: Yes.

What are the most critical factors?

A: The construction techniques and the interplay between transverse and longitudinal.

I hope this helps in some way. Good luck!

Can someone reference some good EE literature for research? For example L.F Blume's Abnormal Voltages, parametric excitation, Townsend Brown effect?

A: Eric Dollard say he repeated or reproduced all of Tesla's inventions. Why don't you start there? Learn why Einstein and Tesla disagreed. Other members of this forum may have more specific reference ideas.

[dR-Green]

A: Where to people get the idea that a ground connection is needed?

Assuming they are talking about Tesla's telluric wireless system, then they get the idea from Tesla.

The fact is that a ground connection is NOT needed, ever, unless the design of the radio depends on it for some reason.

On the contrary. It's the "antenna" that's not needed. An AM radio transmitter is well grounded. This video shows receiving the signal through the EARTH without an antenna, only a resonant coil.

Crystal Sets Gone Wild - YouTube

Low power transmission through earth. Received power varies according to distance between transmitter and receiver EARTH terminals alone.

Tesla Wireless Power Transmission Colorado Springs Style - YouTube





Tesla's diagram

This mode of conveying electrical energy to a distance is not 'wireless' in the popular sense, but a transmission through a conductor, and one which is incomparably more perfect than any artificial one. All impediments of conduction arise from confinement of the electric and magnetic fluxes to narrow channels. The globe is free of such cramping and hinderment. It is an ideal conductor because of its immensity, isolation in space, and geometrical form. Its singleness is only an apparent limitation, for by impressing upon it numerous non-interfering vibrations, the flow of energy may be directed through any number of paths which, though bodily connected, are yet perfectly distinct and separate like ever so many cables. Any apparatus, then, which can be operated through one or more wires, at distances obviously limited, can likewise be worked without artificial conductors, and with the same facility and precision, at distances without limit other than that imposed by the physical dimensions of the globe.

"The Future of the Wireless Art" by Nikola Tesla

"The True Wireless" by Nikola Tesla

Crystal Sets Gone Wild

For the diagram shown the coil dimensions are missing, number of turns, etc. A good ground is essential for these kinds of devices. 16 Ground rods in a 10 to 20 foot radius circle, connected to a single ground rod at the center(17th rod), this connection being 10 gauge wire. Dry sand or rock will not ground, so this requires 80, each 14 gauge wires in a 30 foot diameter circle in a star radial configuration, to a center terminal. Without these groundings a Tesla Transformer cannot properly operate, but some "HI-Z" sets may.

The objective here is to scale the "Crystal Set", a step at a time, into a Tesla Transformer for the reception of medium wave band, 300 - 3000 kilocycle A.M. broadcasts. No license is required for this and the broadcast station provides the power.

And this objective cooperates with the primary objective. That is; Who will be the first ham to disprove Einstein's theory? An International contest, but who will sponsor it, Iran maybe?

We have the good fortune in the "Crystal Set Initiative" that, in theory at least, a quarter wave A.M. broadcast tower, and its 120 quarter wave ground radials, must emit a pair of waves as shown by Tesla in his basic diagrams.





Hence it can be seen that a pair of waves are engendered by this transmission system. (Tower and Star Radials). One wave, Hertzian, is the over ground wave, the other wave, Telluric, is the under ground wave. These two waves arrive at the point of reception in their own distinct time frames, giving rise to a difference in phase. Hence, multiple rings of interference patterns are produced. Since the Hertzian portion, over ground, time frame is based upon the velocity of light, then the Telluric portion, under ground, time frame gives the Telluric velocity. Two crystal sets, one over ground, one under ground, and a basic oscilloscope , that simple. I have done this at Landers.

Concluding, a Tesla Magnification Transformer, properly proportioned can, in theory, actually draw power from a local 50 kW station. Several hundred watts of power reception is likely. This would prove Tesla once and for all. No antenna, just a good ground, and a nice and bright 100 watt light bulb.

This would overturn physics more than any billion dollar C.E.R.N. project. A ham radio operator overturns Einstein for 100 bucks. What a concept.
Read,
Tesla, "The True Wireless"
Tesla, "System of Concatenated Tuned Circuits"
Dollard, "System for the Transmission and Reception of Telluric Electric Waves"
A.R.R.L. "Radio Amatuers Handbook". Chapter "H.F. Transmitters, & Tank Circuits"
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Square or sine waves can be used. Square waves produce more harmonics, not desirable for testing. Also you don't need to buy the same equipment as TheOldScientist. Oscilloscopes or analogue ammeters in the 100uA or less range will do.

[wayne.ct]

Tesla's telluric wireless system

When you consider Tesla's telluric wireless system, then, by definition earth is involved, the use of the term "telluric" is a give away. What I am saying is that one does not ALWAYS have to have a ground CONNECTION. Are you saying that one ALWAYS has to have a GROUND CONNECTION? This is a yes or no question. What I had in mind was something like an earth satellite orbiting the earth that is able to both send and receive communication and NO GROUND is required. Did I say something wrong or am I just a poor communicator?

[dR-Green]

It's the essence of the TMT. "The system" comprises of components, and the earth is one component in the system, without which it's not "the system", like a car without wheels. You can rev up the engine but it won't go anywhere.

Although maybe it is a communication issue because further up the page I also said that the earth is not "essential" for various experiments, it all depends on what you're trying to do. You can use a normal radio, or an AV plug with an LED or speaker etc to receive the signal/some power through the electrostatic field in the local vicinity without a ground connection if you're into that kind of thing, but then I would assume that the inverse square law applies. Observe the effect of placing yourself as a transmission medium between the source and the load when playing with the electrostatic field. Supposed distance in space between source and load remains the same, but now you receive more power. Keep in mind that with Tesla's system it's intended that you don't need an amplifier or power supply at the remote receiving end. All the power to drive the receiver is delivered through the system. Conversely take the batteries out of your "air radio receiver" and see if it still works at a few hundred metres from the source. The transmitter must be putting out around at least 100,000 watts, surely that's enough, unless there's some catastrophic flaw in this through-the-air method.

Also a receiver (and transmitter) can likewise be capacitively coupled to the ground without a physical connection.