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  • does time move slower at the wire ?debating general relativity

    Since GR claims the faster something moves the slower time goes...and electricity moves soooo is time slower at the wire?

  • #2
    for my math I assume the wire creates a time field where time goes slower,
    makes the math pretty easy,
    figuring out the math on bending space and the time is always constant just seem like a total mess to me, but I guess lots of people still use that convoluted idea

    seems to me that it is all a matter of definitions, you could define it either way and then say that is what is happening, but one way the math is super easy, the other way it is almost not possible.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
      for my math I assume the wire creates a time field where time goes slower,
      makes the math pretty easy,
      figuring out the math on bending space and the time is always constant just seem like a total mess to me, but I guess lots of people still use that convoluted idea

      seems to me that it is all a matter of definitions, you could define it either way and then say that is what is happening, but one way the math is super easy, the other way it is almost not possible.
      I may sound like a fool but i find it hard to beleive the classic gr example of man takes a rocket leaves for 40 earth years then comes back to earth to find his twin who aged 2x's as fast

      Is gr valid?

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      • #4
        general relativity does tell you why it happens,
        but it does it in a rather convoluted way in my opinion
        the other thing to remember is that general relativity only works in one frame of reference, and not sure if they tell you the limits on that, but pretty sure they don't tell you what is going on outside that frame

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        • #5
          if you want a totally new way to look at physics that does not have any anomalies,
          then try reading a book called "the new science"
          Wilbert B. Smith: The New Science
          my guess is that general relativity will kind of fade away in your mind as useful
          by the way, I had to take notes when reading to put it all together.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
            general relativity does tell you why it happens,
            but it does it in a rather convoluted way in my opinion
            the other thing to remember is that general relativity only works in one frame of reference, and not sure if they tell you the limits on that, but pretty sure they don't tell you what is going on outside that frame
            If gr is true then time reversal is possible if u traveld 2x's the speed of light

            Doesnt seem possible but who knows

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            • #7
              if general relativity is true, then you can't go faster than the speed of light from the point of view of a stationary observer,
              but the point of view of the person traveling they can go any times the speed of light and everything will seem just fine, time will not shift the other way or anything,
              they do find out that when they get back from there trip that time flowed much faster where they left from than they had.

              I am convinced that time flows from the least likely timeline to the most likely timeline,
              it is just people's belief in cause and effect that makes them see it flowing only in one direction
              and I don't think you need to travel anywhere to change the direction of time.
              electrons know how much energy to dump when bonding to a proton, it does not take them any time to know this value, it is instant every time, so the question to ask is "how does it know the future"

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