Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[dR-Green]

That is some good looking data. What is your time span on that audio waves? also, how far away from the transmitting tower are you?

Dave

On the bottom waveform, I think it's 100µs per division, not sure about the top one. The resolution is 32 samples if that's any help. The transmitter is about 37-38 miles away according to google maps.

It seems that the incoming radio signal isn't reliable for judging the phase because it's possible to make it look either way through the tuning, so I'll be posting conclusive audio analysis evidence shortly I'll upload the audio later too so anyone can open it in an audio editor or whatever and look directly.

[Web000x]

When generally considered, that is the usual assumption, but, XB can be that of M & K as well

Example:

Total Reactance (+-)jX = X(sub)L - X(sub)K

Inductive Reactance X(sub)L, Henry per Second
Capacitive Reactance X(sub)K, per Farad per Second

Total Susceptance (+-)jB = B(sub)C - B(sub)M,

Capacitive Susceptance B(sub)C, Farad per Second
Inductive Susceptance B(sub)M, per Henry per Second

Because Inductions E & I are counter rotating Vectors the inductive reactance and capacitive reactance cannot add directly, the same is true with capacitive susceptance and inductive susceptance. Thus one is shown as NEGATIVE and the other POSITIVE this denotes the relation of their phase difference. When both are equal in value they become a zero magnitude imaginary resistance or conductance. When this happens the reactive currents or voltages caused by the storage or transfer coefficients equal zero, when added together, although both are still present and can still be measured separately.

Reference:
KVA vs. KVAR vs. KW

Self Inductions (Storage & Return of Energy):
L, series
C, parallel

Mutual Inductions (Transfer of Energy, in Either Direction):
M, parallel
K, series

FOUR waves result from these four coefficients (LC, MK, LK & MC)

The time function of LC, dt=(Square Root of LC)

The time function of MK, dt=(Square Root of (1/MK))

The time function of LK, dt=(Square Root of (L/K))

The time function of MC, dt=(Square Root of (C/M))

These values can be taken into radians per second.

Also, the Axises of propagation are different for each type of wave, as was shown in Figure 1, page 35, of Theory of Wireless Power.



In conclusion it can be seen that XB is a lot more than just an Alternating Current LC Oscillation. It in fact shows the MK configuration as well, its just that we don't ever talk about M & K so the lack of formal usage and general understanding of their interactions TOGETHER.

Well said.

As usual, You seem to be one step ahead of my understanding.

Dave

[garrettm4]

XB with reference to L & C and M & K

XB is a function of LC.

Dave

When generally considered that is the usual assumption, but, XB can also be a function of M & K.

Note: This was intended to be considered with DISTRIBUTED system elements such as a single coil or mutually connected lumped elements as shown in Reference #2. LUMPED system elements such as separate inductors that are not coupled and non mutually connected capacitors use the second formula listed for total reactance or susceptance.

Total Reactance
(Distributed Reactance, or Special Case of Lumped Reactance)
(General Case of Lumped Reactance)

Self Inductive Reactance, X(sub)L, Henry per Second
Mutual Capacitive Reactance, X(sub)K, Second per Farad
Self Capacitive Reactance, X(sub)C, Second per Farad

The different axises of propagation of K & C and circuit layout denotes the difference in usage. For Lumped elements this is seen as series capacitor to series capacitor, K; series capacitor to series inductor, C.


Total Susceptance
(Distributed Susceptance, or Special Case of Lumped Susceptance)
(General Case of Lumped Susceptance)

Self Capacitive Susceptance, B(sub)C, Farad per Second
Mutual Inductive Susceptance, B(sub)M, Second per Henry
Self Inductive Susceptance, B(sub)L, Second per Henry

The different axises of propagation of M & L denotes the difference in usage. For Lumped elements this is seen as inductor winding to inductor winding, M; parallel inductor to parallel capacitor, L.


This next piece of text was intended to be considered with LUMPED elements, which everyone should be more comfortable with.

Because Inductions E & I are counter rotating Vectors, the Inductive-Reactance and Capacitive-Reactance cannot add directly, the same is true with Capacitive-Susceptance and Inductive-Susceptance. Thus one is shown as POSITIVE and the other NEGATIVE, this denotes the relation of their phase difference, which is assumed (+-)90 degrees. When both capacitive and inductive values for reactance or susceptance are equal in value they become a zero magnitude imaginary resistance or conductance when looked at from the source supply's perspective.

From Reference #3:
"...In the science of mathematics, the complex numbering system is useful in determining magnitude and phase angle in mechanical and electrical networks. The ‘ j ‘ operator represents the imaginary value Sqrt(-1). In AC power networks the ‘ j ‘ operator represents the rotation of a vector in a CCW (counter clockwise ) direction a full + 90°. Conversely, a ‘-j ‘ operator represents a full - 90°.
...
The real and imaginary numbers may be placed on a two dimensional complex plane to determine angular motion. The values along the horizontal axis are the real portion while the values along the vertical axis are the imaginary. Any horizontal vector magnitude directed from the PCC (point of common coupling) to the right is deemed to be positive in polarity while a vector directed to the left is deemed to be negative...."

Reference #1:
E. P. Dollard - Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves [1985]
Specifically pages 4-6 and pages 16-19

Reference #2:
Borderland Science - Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves [1988]
Specifically minutes 16 to 35 of video, "Analogue Computers".

Reference #3:
KVA vs. KVAR vs. KW

Self Inductions (Storage & Return of Energy):
L, series
C, parallel

Mutual Inductions (Transfer of Energy, in Either Direction):
M, parallel
K, series

Whether these elements (L, C, M & K) are of a LUMPED or DISTRIBUTED nature determines the resultant waveforms characteristics.

FOUR waves result from these four distinct coefficients (LC, MK, LK & MC). The Axises of propagation are different for each type of wave, as was shown in Figure 1, page 35, of Theory of Wireless Power. This reference shows the case of DISTRIBUTED system elements of a coil!

The time function of LC


The time function of MK


The time function of LK


The time function of MC


The above differential time values represent one "Arc Length" measure of time of the Natural Period and can be taken into Radians per Second or Cycles per Second very easily.

Differential Time (one Arc Length or Radian of Natural Period, in Seconds)
The values for this measure are shown above for the various circuit configurations.

Natural Period (total Time of Cycle, in Seconds)


Angular Frequency (Arc Lengths or Radians per Second)


Natural Frequency (Cycles per Second)

Eric Dollard Excerpt:

...

Let us turn to the Heaviside Equation which is the most fundamental equations in all of Electrical Engineering:

(RG + XB) + j (XG – RB) = propagation constant squared

where:

R resistance in Ohms
G conductance in Siemens
X reactance in Henrys per second
B susceptance in Farads per second

Therefore:

RG is the scalar or DC component that is NOT A WAVE,
XB is the longitudinal or AC component and is an alternating electric wave

In conclusion, it can be seen that XB is a lot more than just an Alternating Current LC Oscillation. It in fact shows the MK configuration as well (both are "alternating" electric waves), its just that we don't ever talk about M & K so the lack of formal usage and general understanding of their interactions TOGETHER.

Garrett M

[Web000x]

From the above reference you can gather that the lines of mutual induction M and K propagate in straight lines or RAYS between different metalic-dielectric structures (transmitter and receiver). And have little relation to L & C when used in this manner.

Garrett M

I agree with what you have said. All I was trying to convey is that the LC oscillation initiates the propagation of the longitudinal wave down the MK path. I am not sure how you would propagate longitudinal waves (Man made) without first establishing the activity using a LC circuit with a high magnification factor.

Eric Dollard Quote:

Let us turn to the Heaviside Equation which is the most fundamental equations in all of Electrical Engineering:

(RG + XB) + j (XG – RB) = propagation constant squared

where:

R resistance in Ohms
G conductance in Siemens
X reactance in Henrys per second
B susceptance in Farads per second

Therefore:

RG is the scalar or DC component that is NOT A WAVE,
XB is the longitudinal or AC component and is an alternating electric wave

XB is a function of LC.

Dave

[garrettm4]

Longitudinal Waves

In the most simplistic, man-made form, Longitudinal Waves are a result of an LC oscillation of the TEM transmission. L and C are spatial functions in themselves, but when multiplied, space cancels and you are left with a time function. This is when space becomes scalar. The RAYS of induction are existing equally, everywhere in space, tending towards electrification more-so on the COMPLIMENTARY RESONANT conductor surfaces. This is the basis for no inverse of distance function, propagation without loss of signal strength, longitudinal transmission, etc.

Dave

Longitudinal waves stem from TRANSFER coefficients (M & K) not STORAGE coefficients (L & C) of dielectric and magnetic energy. Longitudinal Wave energy is TRANSFERRED and not RADIATED, energy is conserved between two points, transmitter and reciever. TEM uses RADIATION and thus "sprays" energy out into space, no conservation of energy between transmitter and receiver. These being WITHOUT regard to propagation velocity.

Reference #1:
Nikola Tesla, Leland I. Anderson - Nikola Tesla on His Work With Alternating Currents and Their Application to Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony, and Transmission of Power: An Extended Interview [2002]
Specifically Pages 130-160 (conversation between Tesla and Counsel about "radiation" of energy from his wireless transmitter)

Reference #2:
EP Dollard - Theory of Wireless Power [1986]
Specifically, Pages 5-14, with special attention to Figure 3 and Pages 34-69, with special attention to Figure 1.

b) The Tesla system

The system of transmission and reception of electric energy without the employment of connecting wires, or waveguides, as conceived by Dr. Tesla IS NOT the propagation of any type of electromagnetic wave, nor is it the excitation of the earth-ionosphere waveguide. Tesla's system employes resonant actions along lines, or rays, of ELECTRIC INDUCTION, these lines standing between the transmitter and the receiver, figure 3. The apparatus for establishing these lines of induction is called the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter (T.M.T.). The T.M.T. is a system of resonant transformers harmonically balanced to the electric condition of the earth. The mono-polar nature of the T.M.T. induction facilitates the ease of transmission and reception that this apparatus exhibits.

Figure 3 (from page 6 of above reference)


a) Product of conjugate pair of inductions

The wave theories in present usage for the study of electric propagation along coils and kindred apparatus all suffer from the fundamental drawback that they are representations of energy propagation along a single line or axis. The equivalent circuit of coil propagation is, however best presented as in figure 1, that is, two perpendicular paths for induction. Thus the propagation can occur in any direction on the surface of the mesh given by figure 1.

The nature of electric energy varies with the direction of propagation and departs significantly from the common electro-magnetic form when the path is no longer along the usual axis. This departure in form is of singular importance in the study of Tesla's discoveries.

Figure 1 (from page 35 of the above reference.)


From the above references you can gather that the lines of mutual induction M & K propagate in straight lines or RAYS between different metalic-dielectric structures (transmitter and receiver). And have little relation to L & C when used in this manner. Also the AXIS of their (M & K) propagation through a coil is the shortest path possible (between turns) whereas L & C take the longest path possible (along the entire length of the wire). As for a telluric wave through the earth, Tesla said, in my first reference, that the waves spread out in all directions, BUT the energy was conserved and not lost. He makes a VERY large emphasis on conservation of energy (not spraying energy into space) in his system and the complete loss of energy in the Hertzian system of propagation.

Garrett M

[Lambda]

Gestalt & Lamare,
You guys are doing a wonderful job keeping up on all the posts and organizing them into one place, I for one really appreciate it as I was trying to do the same thing, but simply downloaded all of them from you gentlemen and made PDF's from them. Thanks to both of you, keep up the good work!

Mike

73 DE WX9HV

[Gestalt]

Website Update

Just wanted to update you guys on my website. I have collected pretty much every post of Eric Dollard's on this forum and put them in sections on my website so people can quickly go over any content they may have missed and have it all in one place. I soon hope to have a comprehensive collection of all Eric Dollard's material up on my site including hosting documents & audio.

Gestalt Reality - Eric Dollard

Transmissions/Articles:

1. “Energy Defined” by E.P.Dollard (2011)
2. “The Theory of Anti-Relativity” by E.P.Dollard (2011)
3. “Metrical Dimensional Relations of the Aether” by E.P.Dollard (2011)

Individual Posts:

• First posts by Dollard, E. P. (N6KPH) (2010)
• Additional Posts by E.P.Dollard (2011)
• Additional Posts by E.P.Dollard (2012)
• Posts by Eric Dollard via jpolakow

I will keep things updated daily as new information comes out. I will also add a section on all of Eric's post from the n6kph yahoo group soon. Stay tuned.

[Lambda]

New EPD Cosmic Induction Generator Photos 4

The last 4 are from the Marconi Lab prior to the Integratron.

Also threw in another photo of a TMT single terminal discharge I haven't seen posted in awhile.

73 DE WX9HV

[Lambda]

New EPD Cosmic Induction Generator Photos 3

Yet more.

73 DE WX9HV

[Lambda]

New EPD Cosmic Induction Generator Photos 2

More.

73 DE WX9HV

[Lambda]

New EPD Cosmic Induction Generator Photos

Thomas Brown just posted many photos he scanned of Eric's Cosmic Induction Generator, they are on the N6KPH yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/n6kph/photos/album/0/list

I'm posting them here for the benefit of those who haven't joined the yahoo group.

**Eric, can you please explain the purpose of the bulbs beneath the 2 extra coils, I believe the bulbs on top are the "top loads" to add capacitance, but don't understand the function of the illuminated bulbs that are below the coils. Also, I'd love to hear any further elaborations you have on what is happening in the bulb where the galactic formation is occurring, such as the explanation of the comet you gave previously. Thanks in advance!**

73 DE WX9HV


Tom's post:
"-- In n6kph@yahoogroups.com, "max.thompson" <alchemy2012@...> wrote:
>
> I've started two albums in the photo section:
>
> EPD Santa Barbara Labs - these are plasmas from the Cosmic Induction Generator circa 1987-88. They are numbered, those with an "a" are 600 dpi closeups of the 300 dpi main picture
>
> Marconi Building Number 1 - these are four pictures of Eric's from pre-Integratron days.
>
> I have more, putting the better ones first, but will them scanned and posted as able.
>
> Tom"

[Web000x]

Audio analysis - Phase difference confirmed:









Left channel is the circuit posted by Eric + flat spiral coil. Right channel is the circuit from "200 In One Electronic Project Lab".

That is some good looking data. What is your time span on that audio waves? also, how far away from the transmitting tower are you?

Dave

[Web000x]

I am still trying to figure out how this all relates to radiant energy, and how longitudinal waves are created. Garrett I would still be interested in your explanation on Natural Impedance and the hairpin. It's good to have multiple perspectives on the same issue when it comes to understanding this.

In the most simplistic, man-made form, Longitudinal Waves are a result of an LC oscillation of the TEM transmission. L and C are spatial functions in themselves, but when multiplied, space cancels and you are left with a time function. This is when space becomes scalar. The RAYS of induction are existing equally, everywhere in space, tending towards electrification more-so on the COMPLIMENTARY RESONANT conductor surfaces. This is the basis for no inverse of distance function, propagation without loss of signal strength, longitudinal transmission, etc.

Dave

[dR-Green]

Audio analysis - Phase difference confirmed:









Left channel is the circuit posted by Eric + flat spiral coil. Right channel is the circuit from "200 In One Electronic Project Lab".

[Gestalt]

It would seem that my prepared post on Natural Impedance and the hair pin circuit seems unnecessary now, I don't think I could follow up after a post like that! I do hope to have the free time to finish my post on the clear headed solution of parametric variation of storage parameters L & C with respect to time t soon. (I don't feel that anyone has posted a good algebraic study and generalized solution to this yet, at least on this forum)

I was just going to say I'm glad Eric covered how a standing wave operates specifically in respect to the hair pin circuit. Also because the primary of the TMT is fundamentally a hair pin style circuit. I believe understanding standing waves is crucial in figuring out how the hairpin/primary of the TMT interacts with the aether. In the video of the hairpin demo, Karl Palsness made reference to nodes/zones where there appear greater and lesser amounts of energy. (ignore the fact he says scalar waves) It appears creating standing waves is desirable in terms of separating the dielectric from the magnetic. Jeremy has an excellent post discussing this phenomenon here.

I am still trying to figure out how this all relates to radiant energy, and how longitudinal waves are created. Garrett I would still be interested in your explanation on Natural Impedance and the hairpin. It's good to have multiple perspectives on the same issue when it comes to understanding this.

Also I am wondering doesn't the core of a transformer naturally separate the dielectric & magnetic lines of flux, with the magnetic lines almost being entirely contained within the core material and the dielectric lines mostly existing outside of it?

I plan on constructing a hairpin circuit soon. I really want to experiment with these standing waves. Anyone know where I can get a 15,000V DC transformer?