Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[dR-Green]

or, for the sake of simplicity, a sphere, insulated in space

IE not touching the ground or any other objects.

[everyidea]

Turning talk into reality

We all know that the fossil fuel companies won't do it and our corporatized government sure has heck won't do it... so it's up to us, the little people, to stand up and make it happen. It's time to go back to our past for the benefit of our future and resurrect a functioning wireless transmitter, which in turn would fund Dollard.

We could create a consumer cooperative that builds geothermal powered Tesla wireless transmitters, having Dollard as the planner/overseer. As I see it, this is the purest/cleanest form of power generation and delivery. But, it's up for debate. In any case, building a wireless transmitter would be groundbreaking and show the world that Tesla was on the right track. It would also give people something tangible for their investment in the co-op. I could also see building a Tesla museum at the flagship tower, along with a Dollard workshop.

I've been in marketing for over 20 years now and know how to promote and raise financial support for a project. Right now, all I can donate is my time and talents as a marketer. I'm ready to create this cooperative that has total transparency in it's funding and capitol spending. I believe investors/donors need an organization with a goal for their generosity, this would fulfill that requirement.

All I need is a green light from Dollard that he'd build a tower if we where to raise the funding. His support for this venture would greatly increase the ability to raise funds. I'd be happy to channel the fund raising through a paypal account that he is involved with, due to his apprehension in dealing with people he does not know and past transgressions. But, I'd like total public transparency of the donations and their use.

If I receive Eric's blessing and favorable responses then I'll turn on the marketing machine and create the cooperative, buy the domain, build the website and start promoting the concept and fund raising. This is a ton of work, but I'm willing to do it, if it means seeing a working wireless tower and also helps out a great mind of our time.

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[Kokomoj0]

or, for the sake of simplicity, a sphere, insulated in space

[madhatter]

Here's some input from Tesla that may be of use. From "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY."

Suppose a small helix with many well insulated turns has one of its ends connected to one of the terminals of the induction coil, and the other to a metal plate, or, for the sake of simplicity, a sphere, insulated in space. When the coil is set to work, the potential of the sphere is alternated, and the small helix now behaves as though its free end were connected to the other terminal of the induction coil. How does the insulated sphere act in this case? It can be a condenser, storing and returning the energy supplied to it, or it can be a mere sink of energy, and the conditions of the experiment determine whether it is more one or the other.

and the end of the paper is this gem...

"The question is, how far can we go with frequencies? Ordinary conductors rapidly lose the facility of transmitting electric impulses when the frequency is greatly increased. Assume the means for the production of impulses of very great frequency brought to the utmost perfection, every one will naturally ask how to transmit them when the necessity arises. In transmitting such impulses through conductors we must remember that we have to deal with pressure and flow, in the ordinary interpretation of these terms. Let the pressure increase to an enormous value, and let the flow correspondingly diminish, then such impulses—variations merely of pressure, as it were—can no doubt be transmitted through a wire even if their frequency be many hundreds of millions per second. It would, of course, be out of question to transmit such impulses through a wire immersed in a gaseous medium, even if the wire were provided with a thick and excellent insulation for most of the energy would be lost in molecular bombardment and consequent heating. The end of the wire connected to the source would be heated, and the remote end would receive but a trifling part of the energy supplied. The prime necessity, then, if such electric impulses are to be used, is to find means to reduce as much as possible the dissipation.

The first thought is, employ the thinnest possible wire surrounded by the thickest practicable insulation. The next thought is to employ electrostatic screens. The insulation of the wire may be covered with a thin conducting coating and the latter connected to the ground. But this would not do, as then all the energy would pass through the conducting coating to the ground and nothing would get to the end of the wire. If a ground connection is made it can only be made through a conductor offering an enormous impedance, or though a condenser of extremely small capacity. This, however, does not do away with other difficulties.

If the wave length of the impulses is much smaller than the length of the wire, then corresponding short waves will be sent up in the conducting coating, and it will be more or less the same as though the coating were directly connected to earth. It is therefore necessary to cut up the coating in sections much shorter than the wave length. Such an arrangement does not still afford a perfect screen, but it is ten thousand times better than none. I think it preferable to cut up the conducting coating in small sections, even if the current waves be much longer than the coating.

If a wire were provided with a perfect electrostatic screen, it would be the same as though all objects were removed from it at infinite distance. The capacity would then be reduced to the capacity of the wire itself, which would be very small. It would then be possible to send over the wire current vibrations of very high frequencies at enormous distance without affecting greatly the character of the vibrations. A perfect screen is of course out of the question, but I believe that with a screen such as I have just described telephony could be rendered practicable across the Atlantic. According to my ideas, the gutta-percha covered wire should be provided with a third conducting coating subdivided in sections. On the top of this should be again placed a layer of gutta-percha and other insulation, and on the top of the whole the armor. But such cables will not be constructed, for ere long intelligence—transmitted without wires—will throb through the earth like a pulse through a living organism. The wonder is that, with the present state of knowledge and the experiences gained, no attempt is being made to disturb the electrostatic or magnetic condition of the earth, and transmit, if nothing else, intelligence.

It has been my chief aim in presenting these results to point out phenomena or features of novelty, and to advance ideas which I am hopeful will serve as starting points of new departures. It has been my chief desire this evening to entertain you with some novel experiments. Your applause, so frequently and generously accorded, has told me that I have succeeded.

In conclusion, let me thank you most heartily for your kindness and attention, and assure you that the honor I have had in addressing such a distinguished audience, the pleasure I have had in presenting these results to a gathering of so many able men—and among them also some of those in whose work for many years past I have found enlightenment and constant pleasure—I shall never forget."

Taking the above with Heaviside's comment of the wire having to be the source and not the sink correlates to what Tesla is saying and experimented with.

[amigo]

If Eric was interested, and a publisher would sign him on with some funding upfront, then I say go for it; however, how many people out there in the general populace are really going to be that interested in Eric's information at this point in time? The general television watching, United Nations fluoride treated water drinking, mind controlled public? The standard billion dollar die-silicon-process community of electrical engineers who mock anything other than what is decreed by their handshaking, hoodwinking, 'fellow travelers' of the worshipful masters in the sheepskin-apron wearing priesthood of the grand lodge of the I.E.E.E? Maybe the Bedini crowd because Bearden needs to sell his Nth book (that includes the same recycled garbage as the previous (N-1) monoliths of gibberish)?
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Damn, we might as well put our head between our knees and crawl into a ball then.

I'm trying to suggest something more permanent, as donations can last only so long from a few people.

As far as Bearden's books, I see no reason to doubt many people have bought them, so why would they not buy Eric Dollard's book(s) then?

For the blog idea to work there has to be tens/hundreds of thousands of visitors with a percentage of them being steady donators for it to work and keep Eric alive.

Besides, Eric would have to dedicate considerable time to running the blog and I believe we both know that he's more interested in the analog hands-on stuff and does not fancy digital technology or the medium.

What else is there, beside getting a full-time job which he might not consider at all?

[skaght]

Tesla coil attempt

So based on the thread so far, I made an attempt with components I already had available to make a "true" Tesla Coil. I'm not concerned with transmitting power, I'm interested in demonstrating the same sparking patterns that Eric shows in his photographs. The resonance of my circuit is definitely off, and I need to add another spark gap from the negative side of the charging cap after the inductor. I also don't have the second coil attached to the tesla coil secondary. I used a hockey puck sized neodymium magnet for magnetic quenching of the active spark gap. The tesla coil produced about an inch and a half spark, although I couldn't discern any "ferning" patterns like seen in Dollard's photos. I'm really excited about this and want to keep trying until I figure it out. Diode is 30kv 3 Amp. Caps are parallel .01 uF 30kv ceramic. Inductors are air core 1" diameter 14 gauge, ~4 inches.

Again, I know my resonant frequencies are way off, but I was hoping to produce the effects with components I already had on hand. Also note, this circuit is DANGEROUS. The caps can release lethal currents. Current schematic:

[pault]

Somewhere on this set of pages is an explanation that I once understood (for a short period of time):

Custom cables, litz wire, flat braided wire, multiconductor cable from custom wire and cable, and electric wire manufacturer New England Wire Technologies

A source for "surplus" litz (all of it very thin):

wire and cable

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[Geometric_Algebra]

Litz Wire

For those of you who have some experience with litz, I'm a little confused on the way this stuff is specified.

So, I was under the impression that for, say, 175/46 litz wire means 175 strands of #46 awg copper. Standard 46 awg copper has a diameter of 0.001568 in., which would result
in an overall diameter of roughly d=175*0.00157=0.273 inches. However, some of the vendors on Ebay claim an overall diameter of 0.035 inches for the same stuff.
It's hard to justify spending $40 on a 200 ft. spool if you don't know what you are getting.
Maybe someone knows of a better vendor for litz wire (and better prices)?

[Kokomoj0]

My longitudinal antenna is designed to do just that

I cannot prove yet that it does, but at least it shows a standing wave at a frequency a transverse wave is not supposed to resonate, so I am pretty confident it works:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post173559

This is only practical at pretty high frequencies, though.

The trick is to get rid of the magnetic component using a sleeve balun. This appears to connect both to the Tesla Tower as well as Gray's device. And I think the principe can likely also be applied using coils instead of antenna:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post174521

However, no conclusive evidence yet. It may turn out to be the Rosetta stone, it may turn out to nothing much.

what causes me to scratch my head is if there are 2 resonant points one may be based on the length of the wire of the coil etc and the other may be based on the (length?) of the lumped capacitance etc.

At a glance I would think that could account for the 2 peak resonance?

I do not think that would have any impact on LMD but it may on speed?

[Geometric_Algebra]

Thoughts on funding...

If Eric was interested, and a publisher would sign him on with some funding upfront, then I say go for it; however, how many people out there in the general populace are really going to be that interested in Eric's information at this point in time? The general television watching, United Nations fluoride treated water drinking, mind controlled public? The standard billion dollar die-silicon-process community of electrical engineers who mock anything other than what is decreed by their handshaking, hoodwinking, 'fellow travelers' of the worshipful masters in the sheepskin-apron wearing priesthood of the grand lodge of the I.E.E.E? Maybe the Bedini crowd because Bearden needs to sell his Nth book (that includes the same recycled garbage as the previous (N-1) monoliths of gibberish)? Even if Eric agreed to put a book out there it's still probably something like 2 to 3 months of work on putting the material together, typesetting the equations, editing, and the pushing it up to the favorite publisher mechanism, and then finding agreement between Eric and the publisher, etc. It can be done, I'm just a little pessimistic about the prospects of this method actually supporting his efforts. It's doubtful Eric would make a dime without the idea of receiving an initial "lump sum of funds" as you say. Oh, and I would give the hairy-eyeball to anyone promoting a multi-level-marketing (aka MLM) style, 'affiliate' style, etc. sales front.

What about the possibility of a blog or website, with weekly payment donation counter, and some method of actually getting those funds to Eric every week? There's also the possibility of getting some audio podcasts, video responses, etc., from Eric to paying members? Sounds complicated too, but doable given the current infrastructure of internet communications 'surveillance' technology brought to you by GE (and the owners of this planet), which have a vested interest in keeping you 'contented with your servitude' and 'happy' in the THX1138 sense of the word.

Still that issue of actually getting funds distributed to Eric is what I question. It sounds like the paypal method is working pretty well at the moment (for those that still use paypal). Also, Eric sounds like the type of guy that can live like a king on $50-$100 a week. That's just $5 from 20 individuals to generate a 'common wealth' lumped sum. I could swing $5 a week for awhile.

[Gestalt]

I thought I would share my goal for the Tesla Transformer. Personally I don't need power to be transferred across long distances or even super-luninal communication, instead I am looking for an apparatus to convert ordinary currents (read TEM Waves) into Tesla currents (read LMD waves) for use in dissociation of water (H2O) into H H O for various uses like heating my home and therapeutic effects of Browns Gas. With a possible secondary use for Electro-Therapeutics. Nothing fancy, but interesting to me none the less. I may post some of my design details in the future when I feel more confident of its construction.

Thanks for sharing your goals. Your posts are very informative and I would be curious to see what you plan on building in the future. I'm wondering why you wouldn't delve into Lakhovsky MWO instead of the Tesla Transformer for Therapeutic uses? I for one would like to try and replicate the Lahkovsky MWO, and I'm also intrigued by the potential Health Benefits of LMD waves. Karl Palsness reported some minor health benefits from the Tesla Hairpin circuit.(source)

I also am not particularly interested in superluminal communication either. And another thing I always wondered is, if Tesla was able to synthesize & create energy out of the ether, why go to the trouble of transmitting it? Wouldn't it be simpler to build small devices that create energy on location and on demand rather than depending on one centralized source? Is there any way to separate the energy synthesizing part of the Tesla Transformer from the transmission component?

[lamare]

I am looking for an apparatus to convert ordinary currents (read TEM Waves) into Tesla currents (read LMD waves)

My longitudinal antenna is designed to do just that

I cannot prove yet that it does, but at least it shows a standing wave at a frequency a transverse wave is not supposed to resonate, so I am pretty confident it works:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post173559

This is only practical at pretty high frequencies, though.

The trick is to get rid of the magnetic component using a sleeve balun. This appears to connect both to the Tesla Tower as well as Gray's device. And I think the principe can likely also be applied using coils instead of antenna:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post174521

However, no conclusive evidence yet. It may turn out to be the Rosetta stone, it may turn out to nothing much.

[garrettm4]

It's gone quiet...

Also I was doing a bit more research and reading through Heaviside the other night I came across an interesting note, "Electrical notes Volume 3 Page 89"

"There are several cautions to be expressed regarding the
above. First the investigation has no reference to ordinary
waves along wires. They do not behave in the above way, even
if all resistance were done away with. The above waves are
forced waves, whether u be less or greater than v, although
only in the latter case is there permanent activity on the
average. If we want to represent waves of this type along
a wire, we require a continuous distribution of impressed
electric force along the wire, or something equivalent. That
is, the wire is to be a source of energy, instead of a sink, as
is usually the case with waves along them, for the loss of
energy by radiation of the heat is a separate matter, which
does not come in question."

That's quite a powerful quote if mentally digested. It reminds me of the "cold electricity" shenanigans people talk about. Whereby the load becomes a source and actively takes energy from the environment as opposed to actively giving back, all of which is in the form of infrared photons. One action is seen as heat released and the other as cooling or heat converted into electrical energy. (Or however you want to word it)

I thought I would share my goal for the Tesla Transformer. Personally I don't need power to be transferred across long distances or even super-luninal communication, instead I am looking for an apparatus to convert ordinary currents (read TEM Waves) into Tesla currents (read LMD waves) for use in dissociation of water (H2O) into H H O for various uses like heating my home and therapeutic effects of Browns Gas. With a possible secondary use for Electro-Therapeutics. Nothing fancy, but interesting to me none the less. I may post some of my design details in the future when I feel more confident of its construction.

[amigo]

It is very difficult to do this remotely for all of us but the two of you near Eric. I hate talking in the third person here, but Eric is not around so what else...

I am not saying that we start taking care of Eric because that would absolve him from responsibility, which would be wrong on many levels. A more permanent solution is needed never the less, though one that directly involves, and is embraced by Eric.

The way I see it, Eric is so engulfed into his work that he does not want to deal with anything else (the daily "Earthly" matters) so he's mostly getting-by on a daily basis, probably even starving himself. Being so stubborn, Eric refuses to "budge" to the World and is expecting the World to change instead, which just won't happen.

Although none of us is financially wealthy to be a patron, we do have one common wealth among us all, and that is the head on our shoulders. So how about we brainstorm some ideas?

I'll start with one: a book deal. If a big publisher would sign up Eric to write a book on his own work, or Tesla's work, or whatever, that could provide Eric with a lump sum of funds in advance, and proceeds from the sales after publication.

[Armagdn03]

Dave,

I fully agree with you, and do not think you have been pushing anything too hard. I really appreciate this thread and the contributors, and especially the work of Eric Dollard.