Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[Raui]

I spoke to Tom B, and heard he donated 500 to Eric, (who should just open source BTW) i heard Eric is still an angry SOB thats okay we tolerate bothers with an attitude but only for so long hope he works with the open source community soon


Ash

Ash,
Concerning the open source, isn't that what Eric is doing? It may not be at any fast pace or anything but Eric is saying that our understanding of electricity is faulty and that with his understanding we can go to the next step of building a working device. Right now he is trying to give us a new understanding. Eric is more concerned that we know how electricity works than having us know how to blindly build a device and to be honest anyone serious about their researches into this area should feel the same way. Like the saying goes, you need to learn to walk before you can run.

Lamare,
I have some spare hosting space, if your interested PM me
Raui

[t-rex]

Inductance and Capacitance

Inductance and Capacitance

In its most general form the basic concept of an electrical configuration in electrical engineering terms is;

1) A metallic-dielectric geometric structure,
2) A bound electric field of induction, this representing STORED ENERGY within the containing geometric structure,
3) An exchange of electrical and mechanical forces between the electric field and the material geometric structure.

It is in statement 3) that the concepts of INDUCTANCE and of CAPACITANCE enter the electric dimensional relations. It is through the dimensional relations of inductance and capacitance that the electric field engages in the interaction with the geometry in which it is bound. It is also here that we find the most significant dimensional misrepresentations which occlude the understanding of the phenomenon of electricity.

The existence of the dielectric field of induction, Psi, in Coulombs, gives rise to an electro-static potential, e, in Volts. Conversely an electro-static potential, e, in Volts, gives rise to the dielectric field, Psi, in Coulomb. It is a “chicken or egg”, a matter of versor position along a cycle. Here we have a pair of dimensional relations, Psi, and, e, that exist in proportion to each other. It hereby follows that a proportionality factor must exist expressing the ration of the pair of dimensional relations, Psi, in Coulomb, and e, in Volt. Considering the dielectric induction as a primary dimension, not a dimensional relation, then the variation of the primary dimension is with respect to the secondary dimension. Primary per secondary, Psi per e. An example is a package of spaghetti, spaghetti is a primary dimension, package, per square inch a secondary dimension. Hence the dimensional relation of the proportion of dielectric, Psi, in Coulombs, to the electro-static potential, e, in Volts, is then given as,

Coulomb per Farad

The ratio, Psi over e, establishes a new dimensional relation. This relation, a factor of proportion. Is called the CAPACITANCE, C, in FARAD. That is, C equals Psi over e. If then it takes a very small magnitude of electro-static potential, e, to engender a very large quantity of dielectric induction, Psi, then the geometry supporting this induction is said to have a high capacitance, C. It is then called a CAPACITOR. One electro-static unit of capacitance is close to one picorarad, the one over C squared renders this 10 percent off.

Thus we can state a “Law of Dielectric Proportion”, C, in Farads, is the proportion of the QUANTITY of dielectric induction, Psi, in Coulomb, to the MAGNITUDE of electro-static potential, e, in Volts. The Coulomb per Volt, or Farad of electro-static capacity.

It hereby follows that for a given “package”, or quantity, of dielectric induction, a variation of the capacitance must give rise to a proportional variation of he electro-static potential, that is, a decrease in capacitance must give rise to an increase in electro-static potential. This is the Law of Dielectric Proportion.

The same line of reasoning follows for the magnetic field of induction. The existence of the magnetic field, Phi, in Weber, gives rise to a magneto-motive force, or M.M.F., i, in Amperes. Again it is a versor, chicken or egg. Here again is a pair of dimensional relations that exist in proportion to each other, Psi and i. Thus the ratio, or factor of proportion, is given as,

Weber per Ampere.

The ratio of Psi to i results in a new dimensional relation. This factor of proportion is the dimensional relation called INDUCTANCE, L, in Henry. L equals Phi over i. L in Henry is the proportionality factor between the quantity of magnetic induction to the magnitude of the M.M.F. The Weber per Ampere, or Henry of magnetic inductance. It then follows, for a given “package”, or quantity of magnetic induction, that a variation of the inductance must give rise to a variation of the M.M.F. This is to say, a decrease in inductance must give rise to a proportional increase in current, or M.M.F. This is the Law of Magnetic Proportion.

Heretofore established is the pair of dimensional relations,

1) The Law of Dielectric Proportion
Coulomb per Volt, or Farad, C

2) The Law of Magnetic Proportion
Weber per Ampere, or Henry, L

73 DE N6KPH

[ashtweth]

HI Raui, lamare , T-rex at all.

thanks for that guys, I also got told about a lot of potential there so yes my friend your right they are going to need this crowd to "pick up the batten", i heard about all sorts of pancake cols and amazing stuff that was demonstrated over the years, i am glad you guys "have not missed the boat" with what they were demonstrating, this was the concern i was told about that people are off in other areas whilst letting Eric's stuff subside.

Ash

[Redisnoc]

Bump...

"one for the gipper"

[Raui]

Inductance and Capacitance

In its most general form the basic concept of an electrical configuration in electrical engineering terms is;

1) A metallic-dielectric geometric structure,
2) A bound electric field of induction, this representing STORED ENERGY within the containing geometric structure,
3) An exchange of electrical and mechanical forces between the electric field and the material geometric structure.

It is in statement 3) that the concepts of INDUCTANCE and of CAPACITANCE enter the electric dimensional relations. It is through the dimensional relations of inductance and capacitance that the electric field engages in the interaction with the geometry in which it is bound. It is also here that we find the most significant dimensional misrepresentations which occlude the understanding of the phenomenon of electricity.

The existence of the dielectric field of induction, Psi, in Coulombs, gives rise to an electro-static potential, e, in Volts. Conversely an electro-static potential, e, in Volts, gives rise to the dielectric field, Psi, in Coulomb. It is a “chicken or egg”, a matter of versor position along a cycle. Here we have a pair of dimensional relations, Psi, and, e, that exist in proportion to each other. It hereby follows that a proportionality factor must exist expressing the ration of the pair of dimensional relations, Psi, in Coulomb, and e, in Volt. Considering the dielectric induction as a primary dimension, not a dimensional relation, then the variation of the primary dimension is with respect to the secondary dimension. Primary per secondary, Psi per e. An example is a package of spaghetti, spaghetti is a primary dimension, package, per square inch a secondary dimension. Hence the dimensional relation of the proportion of dielectric, Psi, in Coulombs, to the electro-static potential, e, in Volts, is then given as,

Coulomb per Farad

The ratio, Psi over e, establishes a new dimensional relation. This relation, a factor of proportion. Is called the CAPACITANCE, C, in FARAD. That is, C equals Psi over e. If then it takes a very small magnitude of electro-static potential, e, to engender a very large quantity of dielectric induction, Psi, then the geometry supporting this induction is said to have a high capacitance, C. It is then called a CAPACITOR. One electro-static unit of capacitance is close to one picorarad, the one over C squared renders this 10 percent off.

Thus we can state a “Law of Dielectric Proportion”, C, in Farads, is the proportion of the QUANTITY of dielectric induction, Psi, in Coulomb, to the MAGNITUDE of electro-static potential, e, in Volts. The Coulomb per Volt, or Farad of electro-static capacity.

It hereby follows that for a given “package”, or quantity, of dielectric induction, a variation of the capacitance must give rise to a proportional variation of he electro-static potential, that is, a decrease in capacitance must give rise to an increase in electro-static potential. This is the Law of Dielectric Proportion.

The same line of reasoning follows for the magnetic field of induction. The existence of the magnetic field, Phi, in Weber, gives rise to a magneto-motive force, or M.M.F., i, in Amperes. Again it is a versor, chicken or egg. Here again is a pair of dimensional relations that exist in proportion to each other, Psi and i. Thus the ratio, or factor of proportion, is given as,

Weber per Ampere.

The ratio of Psi to i results in a new dimensional relation. This factor of proportion is the dimensional relation called INDUCTANCE, L, in Henry. L equals Phi over i. L in Henry is the proportionality factor between the quantity of magnetic induction to the magnitude of the M.M.F. The Weber per Ampere, or Henry of magnetic inductance. It then follows, for a given “package”, or quantity of magnetic induction, that a variation of the inductance must give rise to a variation of the M.M.F. This is to say, a decrease in inductance must give rise to a proportional increase in current, or M.M.F. This is the Law of Magnetic Proportion.

Heretofore established is the pair of dimensional relations,

1) The Law of Dielectric Proportion
Coulomb per Volt, or Farad, C

2) The Law of Magnetic Proportion
Weber per Ampere, or Henry, L

73 DE N6KPH

Eric,
I came to the same conclusion by taking the time derivative of C = i times t, divided by v
to get the resultant being a conductance so that when the capacitance is increased you get a positive conductance and when the capacitance is decreased you get a negative conductance. Same applies to a change of inductance except the equation used was L = v times t, divided by i which gave a result of resistance (v divided by i). I've attached a pdf with my working as I know you don't like text math. So really my question is - since a negative change in inductance leads to a increase in current and a negative change in capacitance leads to an increased voltage, are these increases caused by a negative resistance or conductance or is this just a mathematical coincidence?

@All,
Also I have looked high and low for a chapter in Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses and cannot find a section on Velocity Measure but I can swear I have seen it before. I have looked in a lot of his other works and cannot find it either. Does anybody have a copy of the edition with this chapter in it?

Raui

[Web000x]

Eric,
I came to the same conclusion by taking the time derivative of C = i times t, divided by v
to get the resultant being a conductance so that when the capacitance is increased you get a positive conductance and when the capacitance is decreased you get a negative conductance. Same applies to a change of inductance except the equation used was L = v times t, divided by i which gave a result of resistance (v divided by i). I've attached a pdf with my working as I know you don't like text math. So really my question is - since a negative change in inductance leads to a increase in current and a negative change in capacitance leads to an increased voltage, are these increases caused by a negative resistance or conductance or is this just a mathematical coincidence?

@All,
Also I have looked high and low for a chapter in Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses and cannot find a section on Velocity Measure but I can swear I have seen it before. I have looked in a lot of his other works and cannot find it either. Does anybody have a copy of the edition with this chapter in it?

Raui

Raui,

A couple of quotes by Eric Dollard:

This is a result of the variation of capacitance (C in Farrads) with respect to time (T in seconds) which results in a negative conductance G (in Siemens).

This is another example of synchronous parameter variation. In this case inductance (L in Henrys) time (T in seconds) gave rise to positive resistance (R in Ohms)

I'm sure you were already aware of these statements. Good eye.

Dave

[t-rex]

Reduction to Primary Dimensions

Reduction to Primary Dimensions

In the expressions for the law of dielectric proportion, and the law of magnetic proportion, that is, the capacitance and inductance, the relations are not given entirely in primary dimensions. Both e, in Volts, and i, in Amperes, are not primary dimensions, they are secondary dimensional relations. These relations must be expanded in order to express capacitance and inductance in terms of primary dimensions only.

By the Law of Magnetic Induction

1) Volt, or Weber per Second

And the Law of Dielectric Induction

2) Ampere, or Coulomb per Second

Combining terms, for the dielectric capacitance, Farads, gives

3) Coulomb per Volt
or
Coulomb-Second per Weber

This is the primary dimensional relation expressing capacitance, C, in Farad. Now the primary dimension of Time has re-emerged into what has been a space relation. More on this later.

It was established early on that the ratio of the total dielectric induction, Psi, to the total magnetic induction, Phi, gives rise to the dimensional relation, Y, the admittance in Siemens. By substitution of the dimensions of Siemens for the ratio Coulomb per Weber, this into the expression for Farad, gives

4) Farad, or Coulomb – Second
Per Weber

Gives,

5) Farad, or Siemens – Second.

Re-arrangement of terms in 5) results in an important dimensional relation,

6) Farad per Second, or Siemens.

That is, C over T give the dimensional relation of Siemens. This new relation is the SUCEPTANCE, B, in Siemens. It is hereby established that the dimensional relation of Siemens can now be expressed in two distinct forms,

7) Admittance, Y, in
Coulomb per Weber,

8) Suceptance, B, in
Farad per Second.

More on this later on.

The same considerations apply to the magnetic field of induction, and its Law of Magnetic Proportion, the inductance, L, in Henry.

9) Henry, or Weber per Ampere.

Substituting gives,

10) Weber – Second per Coulomb,
or Henry.

And by the relation,

11) Weber per Coulomb, or Ohm

It is then given,

12) Henry, or Ohm – Second

Thus

13) Henry per Sicond, or Ohm.

This hereby derived dimensional relation for Ohm, or Henry per second, is called the REACTANCE, X, in Ohm. Again, as with the Siemens, a dual dimensional relation exist with regard to the Ohm, the impedance, Z, and the reactance, X.

We here have established a new pair of dimensional relations. These relations involve a time rate of variation, this analogous to the time rate relations, the Faraday and Maxwell Laws of Induction, given again,

A) Farad per Second
or Siemens, B.

B) Henry per Second
or Ohm, X.

Two alternate views present themselves as to the time rate of variation. One is the condition that the capacitance and inductance in themselves are constants, time invariants, it is that the forces, electro-static potential, and magneto-motive force, are time variant. The e, and i, are in variation with respect to time. This is the condition for the relations of susceptance, B, in Siemens, and of reactance, X, in Ohms.

For example, take a one Henry inductance coil. The given line voltage is 120 volts A.C. in variation at a rate of 377 radians per second, or 60 cycles per second. Hereby the reactance of the one (1) Henry inductor is thus the product of 1 and 377 or 377 Ohms, or Henry per Second. The application of 120 volts A.C. to this inductor hereby gives rise to a current of,

120 / 377 Ampere, or
Volt per Ohm.

For the sake of simplicity let us say this is about a quarter ampere, one fourth of an amp. The product of 120 volts and one fourth amp gives the electrical activity as,

120 / 4 Volt – Ampere
or 30 Volt – Ampere reactive.

This is the electrical activity of the one Henry coil across 120 volt A.C. at 60 cycles.

Carrying the Law of Magnetic Proportion one step further, this one Henry inductance coil, in its windings, has 1000 passes, or turns around its core. This hereby gives rise to a M.M.F. of 1000 times one fourth ampere, or a total of 250 ampere- turns. This magneto-motive force, or compound current is developed in a one, 1, Henry coil. Hereby, by the Law of Magnetic Proportion, for a current of one quarter ampere through 1000 turns gives rise to the quantity of magnetic induction, 250 Webers.

73 DE N6KPH

[KurtNalty]

Eric's DC Transmission Line

Eric Dollard's DC Transmission Line Exercise

Eric posted a transmission line puzzle. Here is my answer

************* Original Posting ***********************

I have a D.C. transmission line, the conductors are 2 inches in diameter, spacing is 18 feet.
How many ounces of force are developed upon a 600 foot span of this line, for the following;

1. 1000 ampere line current.

2. For 1000 KV line potential?

I am waiting.

****************** My Answer **************************

The magnetic repulsion between the two conductors:

1) Calculate B

B = mu_0 H = mu_0 (I/(2*pi*r)) = (mu_0 I)/(2*pi*r) r = 18 feet = 5.48m, I = 1000A.

= (4.0e-7*pi)(1000)/(2.0*pi*5.48) = 2.0e-4/(3.14*5.48) = 11.6 uT (very small compared to terrestrial magnetism)

Calculate Force/Length

F/l = IxB = 1000A*11.6uT = 11.6 mN/meter

Calculate total for for 600' span.

l = 600' = 182.88 meter
F = 11.6 mN/meter * 182.88 meter = 2.12 N

Convert to ounces force. 1 lb = 4.45 N = 16 oz. 1 N = 3.596 oz.

F (per 600 span) = 7.62 oz. (Magnetic repulsion)


2) Calculate Electrostatic Attraction

I use the principle of virtual work with parallel plate capacitors
approximated by the 2 in diameter conductors separated by 18 feet.
I model the capacitor as a flat ribbon with 18 feet separation. The
curvature of the cylindrical conductor introduces a small error of the order
2in/18ft = 0.9%, so no problem.

E = (1/2) C V^2 = (1/2) ((epsilon A)/(d)) V^2

F = (del E / del d) = -(1/2) ((epsilon A)/(d^2)) V^2
= -(1/2) ((8.854E-12*182.88m*0.0508m)/(5.48m*5.48m)) (1.0E6V)^2

= -1.36955 N = -4.92 oz (Electrostatic attraction)

We see that reducing the current can balance mechanical forces from repulsion and
attraction. There will be a characteristic impedance associated with this balanced
system.

Balance magnitudes of attraction and repulsion

((mu I^2)/(2 pi)) (L/d) = (1/2) ((epsilon L*WireDiameter)/(d^2)) V^2

V^2/I^2 = (mu/epsilon) ((d)/(pi*WireDiameter)) = Z^2

Z = 377 sqrt(d/(pi*WireDiameter) Ohms

Enjoy

Kurt Nalty

[Web000x]

Eric Dollard's DC Transmission Line Exercise

Eric posted a transmission line puzzle. Here is my answer

************* Original Posting ***********************

I have a D.C. transmission line, the conductors are 2 inches in diameter, spacing is 18 feet.
How many ounces of force are developed upon a 600 foot span of this line, for the following;

1. 1000 ampere line current.

2. For 1000 KV line potential?

I am waiting.

****************** My Answer **************************

The magnetic repulsion between the two conductors:

1) Calculate B

B = mu_0 H = mu_0 (I/(2*pi*r)) = (mu_0 I)/(2*pi*r) r = 18 feet = 5.48m, I = 1000A.

= (4.0e-7*pi)(1000)/(2.0*pi*5.48) = 2.0e-4/(3.14*5.48) = 11.6 uT (very small compared to terrestrial magnetism)

Calculate Force/Length

F/l = IxB = 1000A*11.6uT = 11.6 mN/meter

Calculate total for for 600' span.

l = 600' = 182.88 meter
F = 11.6 mN/meter * 182.88 meter = 2.12 N

Convert to ounces force. 1 lb = 4.45 N = 16 oz. 1 N = 3.596 oz.

F (per 600 span) = 7.62 oz. (Magnetic repulsion)


2) Calculate Electrostatic Attraction

I use the principle of virtual work with parallel plate capacitors
approximated by the 2 in diameter conductors separated by 18 feet.
I model the capacitor as a flat ribbon with 18 feet separation. The
curvature of the cylindrical conductor introduces a small error of the order
2in/18ft = 0.9%, so no problem.

E = (1/2) C V^2 = (1/2) ((epsilon A)/(d)) V^2

F = (del E / del d) = -(1/2) ((epsilon A)/(d^2)) V^2
= -(1/2) ((8.854E-12*182.88m*0.0508m)/(5.48m*5.48m)) (1.0E6V)^2

= -1.36955 N = -4.92 oz (Electrostatic attraction)

We see that reducing the current can balance mechanical forces from repulsion and
attraction. There will be a characteristic impedance associated with this balanced
system.

Balance magnitudes of attraction and repulsion

((mu I^2)/(2 pi)) (L/d) = (1/2) ((epsilon L*WireDiameter)/(d^2)) V^2

V^2/I^2 = (mu/epsilon) ((d)/(pi*WireDiameter)) = Z^2

Z = 377 sqrt(d/(pi*WireDiameter) Ohms

Enjoy

Kurt Nalty

Hey Kurt,

I've looked at most of you logic and I see something that is worth a second look. Having talked to Eric personally about the subject of "internet math", I am going to suggest that you find a way to make it more "text-book-ish" or he might have trouble deciphering it.

He told me that he would have looked this up himself but doesn't have any books left. He only wants this info (I think) so that he can give suggestions on designing a machine that has the attractive(dielectric) and repulsive forces(magnetic) cancel while generating usable power.

Dave

[Raui]

Kurt,
Great to see someone else helping on the equations! Dave mentioned making them more 'textbookish' as so Eric can read them, when I send Eric equations I use this LaTeX generator and he's understood every equation I've ever sent him; Online LaTeX Equation Editor - create, integrate and download

Eric,
Hope your doing well.

Raui

[KurtNalty]

Online Equation Typesetter

Thanks for the link to the online equation typsetter.

In the meanwhile, I've posted a PDF for the math at

http://www.kurtnalty.com/ForceBalanc...issionLine.pdf

[t-rex]

The Variation of Inductance and Capacitance With Respect to Time

The Variation of Inductance and Capacitance With Respect to Time

We have heretofore established a new pair of dimensional relationships. These the magnetic inductance, L, in Henry, and the electro-static capacity, C, in Farad. Derived from these dimensional relations is a pair of electrical laws,

(I) The Law of Dielectric Proportion
The ratio of the quantity of dielectric induction, Psi in Coulomb to the magnitude of the electro-static potential, e, in Volt.

(1) Coulomb per Volt,
Or Farad

(II) The Law of Magnetic Proportion
The ratio of the quantity of magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber, to the magnitude of the M.M.F., i, in Ampere.

(2) Weber per Ampere,
Or Henry

Through algebraic re-arrangement a pair of secondary dimensional relations alternately define, in a new form, the total dielectrtic induction, Psi, in Coulomb, and the total magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber. For the dielectric induction,

(3) Coulomb, or Volt – Farad.

And for the magnetic induction,

(4) Weber, or, Ampere – Henry

Hence, the total dielectric induction, Psi, in Coulomb, is the product of the potential, e, in volt, and the capacitance, C, in Farad. Likewise, the total magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber, is the product of the M.M.F., i, in Ampere, and the inductance, L, in Henry

Psi equals e times C
Phi equals i times L

In the expression of the variation of the parameters which constitute the dimensional relations involving capacitance and inductance, two distinct conditions can exist. First is the capacitance and the inductance arfe time invariant, and the variation with respect to time resides in the relations of potential, e, and of M.M.F., i. Here derived are the suceptance and the reactance. In the alternate form of expression, it is the potential, e, and the M.M.F., i, that are time invariant, and the variation with respect to time resides in the relations of capacitance and inductance as geometric co-efficients. Geometry in time variation.

In general, time invariance of L and C, or time invariance of e and i each can be considered as a limiting case. Each can be in variation with respect to time at their own individual time rates. That is, for the dielectric both C and e can be in variation, and for the magnetic both L and i can be in variation. Consider the A.C. induction motor. Here is form of magnetic inductance in which both the inductance, L, and the M.M.F., i, are in time variation, L with the rotational geometric variation, and i with the rotational variation of M.M.F. The difference between the rotational frequency of i is called the slip frequency. The rotor continuously falls behind the rotation of the magnetic field, dragging energy out of this field and delivering it to the output shaft of the motor.

Considering the pair of primary dimensional relations, it is, for the dielectric induction.

(5) Farad per second, or
Siemens,

And for the magnetic,

(6) Henry per second, or
Ohm,

It is established that a distinct pair of conditions exist with regard to the variation with respect to time. Either the capacitance or inductance is in variation, or the potential or M.M.F. is in variation, with respect to time.

For the condition of time invariant L and C it is given,

(7) Farad per second, or Siemens,
The Suceptance, B,

(8) Henry per second, or Ohm,
The Reactance, X.

In the second case the L and C are in variation with respect to time. The forces, i and e, are held constant, or time invariant. Here the variation with respect to time exists with the Metallic – Dielectric geometry itself. This hereby produces a variation in the geometric co-efficients of capacitance or inductance. These relations are given as,

(9) Farads per second, or Siemens,
The Conductance, G

(10) Henry per second, or Ohm,
The Resistance, R

This CONDUCTANCE, G, and this RESISTANCE, R, represent the relations derived from the time variation of capacitance and from the time variation of inductance, respectively.

It is through this form of parameter variation that the energy stored in the electrical field bounded by the geometric structure is here given to an external form. This is to say, energy is taken out of the electric field and delivered elsewhere.

For a closed system, the energy stored within the electric field is lost, or dissipated, from this system. It is then ENERGY LEAKAGE from the closed system. Considering the condition of a time invariant, or stationary geometric structure, this structure exhibiting the dissipation of the energy stored within the electric field bound by the structure, the conductance, G, and the Resistance, R, are the representations of energy leakage from the dielectric and magnetic fields respectively.

For example, consider one span of a “J carrier” open wire transmission pair. Here the conductance, G, is the “leakage conductance” of the glass telephone insulator, the resistance, R, is the “electronic resistance” of the copperweld telephone wire. These represent the energy dissipation of one span of line.

This conductance, G, represents a “molecular loss” WITHIN the glass of the insulator. This resistance, R, represents a “molecular loss” WITHIN the metal of the wire. Hence it is the molecular losses of the metallic-dielectric geometry itself that gives rise to an energy leakage from a closed system. The molecular agitation and cyclic hysteresis exist within the molecular dimensions of the physical mass of the bounding geometric structure. These consist of a multitude of minute variations of the capacitance and inductance of the geometric form. On a microscopic level the material substance of this form is indefine, a kind of blur in space, due to the multitude of minute variations of positions in space. These tiny motions, hereby through parameter variation, convert the energy stored in the electric field into random patterns of radiation. By experiment it can be shown that this energy leakage exists in proportion to the temperature of the material form storing energy within its bound electric field. In general, the elecro-static potential, e, in Volt, renders the insulators hot, the magneto-motive force, i, in Ampere, renders the wires hot. Also, it is found that this heating increases with increasing frequency of the potential, e, or the M.M.F., i. It is here where the prevailing concept of the “electron” is to be found. Hence it is the motions of the electrons that give rise to the energy loss in an electrical system.

Electrons represent energy dissipation. However, the pedant, the mystic, and the dis-informer all tell us that the electron is what conveys energy, the complete opposite!

Break – more to follow
DE N6KPH

[Aether]

@All,
Also I have looked high and low for a chapter in Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses and cannot find a section on Velocity Measure but I can swear I have seen it before. I have looked in a lot of his other works and cannot find it either. Does anybody have a copy of the edition with this chapter in it?

Raui

After doing a quick search on google I found this:

Lectures on Electrical Engineering - Charles Proteus Steinmetz - Google Books

Which is in the Chapter "Line Oscillations" in Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses on pg 83.

[hoggel]

has the discussion moved elsewhere? or why is it so quiet in here?....just wondering.

[Web000x]

has the discussion moved elsewhere? or why is it so quiet in here?....just wondering.

I am reading everything that is posted and would love to spend my time discussing. But I'm busy building a synchronous belt driven power generation setup. I will have two alternators with pulleys of different ratios driving them so that I may investigate Eric's suggestion of using magamps for energy synthesis. I have pulleys for the alternators at a 2/1 and 3/1 ratio so that I may look into modulated an Alexanderson magamp at 2nd and 3rd harmonic. Eric told me that modulation at the 2nd harmonic represents power and at the 3rd harmonic represents energy. I shall investigate and report my findings.


Dave