Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[viruskiller]

Message for Mister Lindemann

Hello, Mr lindemann,

I want to know, where i can have plans of the tesla coil on your book secret of cold electricity. Eric dollard don't sell the plans.

Because, I search to reproduct this coil.

Thank you.

[lamare]

has the discussion moved elsewhere? or why is it so quiet in here?....just wondering.

I'm kind of busy with other things. It crossed my mind that indeed the propagation speed of longitudinal waves as well as the static electric field is pi/2 x c, and therefore a longitudinal moon bounce would be THE final blow against the great Einsteinan lie:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...e-history.html

So, I theorized a bit further on that idea and started contacting radio amateurs. Now I have an interesting discussion on the forum of a Dutch association of radio amateurs:
Zendamateur.COM - Toon onderwerp - Wie voert de eerste longitudinale moon-bounce uit??

It would be so cool if we could pull this off. It ain't a ride in the park, but I'm sure it can and will be done. It is just a question of time before someone pulls this off.

[Kokomoj0]

Nice paper though if I am putting this together correctly it does not appear as if they paid particular attention to insuring 1/4wave resonance, good grounding, tuning etc? Do you know what frequency the tesla tower was intended to operate at that he felt he could transmit power any distance? Exponential transmission loss is not a very good showing.

Is this moon shot really going to take place? I would be very interested in the set up etc.

[Farmhand]

Nice paper though if I am putting this together correctly it does not appear as if they paid particular attention to insuring 1/4wave resonance, good grounding, tuning etc? Do you know what frequency the tesla tower was intended to operate at that he felt he could transmit power any distance? Exponential transmission loss is not a very good showing.

Is this moon shot really going to take place? I would be very interested in the set up etc.

On the frequency I found this, it says about 25 Khz tops, no shorter.


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Cheers

[Kokomoj0]

Thanks FH,

and someone wanted to know about prof wheatstones 288mps, it appears he was discharging a leyden jar over a 1/2 mile long wire.

So hie measurement would be the speed of static electricity.

Chambers's encyclopædia: a ... - Ephraim Chambers - Google Books


The papers of Joseph Henry - Joseph Henry, Nathan Reingold - Google Books

[tao]

Further parameter variations...

The Variation of Inductance and Capacitance With Respect to Time

We have heretofore established a new pair of dimensional relationships. These the magnetic inductance, L, in Henry, and the electro-static capacity, C, in Farad. Derived from these dimensional relations is a pair of electrical laws,

(I) The Law of Dielectric Proportion
The ratio of the quantity of dielectric induction, Psi in Coulomb to the magnitude of the electro-static potential, e, in Volt.

(1) Coulomb per Volt,
Or Farad

(II) The Law of Magnetic Proportion
The ratio of the quantity of magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber, to the magnitude of the M.M.F., i, in Ampere.

(2) Weber per Ampere,
Or Henry

Through algebraic re-arrangement a pair of secondary dimensional relations alternately define, in a new form, the total dielectrtic induction, Psi, in Coulomb, and the total magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber. For the dielectric induction,

(3) Coulomb, or Volt – Farad.

And for the magnetic induction,

(4) Weber, or, Ampere – Henry

Hence, the total dielectric induction, Psi, in Coulomb, is the product of the potential, e, in volt, and the capacitance, C, in Farad. Likewise, the total magnetic induction, Phi, in Weber, is the product of the M.M.F., i, in Ampere, and the inductance, L, in Henry

Psi equals e times C
Phi equals i times L

In the expression of the variation of the parameters which constitute the dimensional relations involving capacitance and inductance, two distinct conditions can exist. First is the capacitance and the inductance arfe time invariant, and the variation with respect to time resides in the relations of potential, e, and of M.M.F., i. Here derived are the suceptance and the reactance. In the alternate form of expression, it is the potential, e, and the M.M.F., i, that are time invariant, and the variation with respect to time resides in the relations of capacitance and inductance as geometric co-efficients. Geometry in time variation.

In general, time invariance of L and C, or time invariance of e and i each can be considered as a limiting case. Each can be in variation with respect to time at their own individual time rates. That is, for the dielectric both C and e can be in variation, and for the magnetic both L and i can be in variation. Consider the A.C. induction motor. Here is form of magnetic inductance in which both the inductance, L, and the M.M.F., i, are in time variation, L with the rotational geometric variation, and i with the rotational variation of M.M.F. The difference between the rotational frequency of i is called the slip frequency. The rotor continuously falls behind the rotation of the magnetic field, dragging energy out of this field and delivering it to the output shaft of the motor.

Considering the pair of primary dimensional relations, it is, for the dielectric induction.

(5) Farad per second, or
Siemens,

And for the magnetic,

(6) Henry per second, or
Ohm,

It is established that a distinct pair of conditions exist with regard to the variation with respect to time. Either the capacitance or inductance is in variation, or the potential or M.M.F. is in variation, with respect to time.

For the condition of time invariant L and C it is given,

(7) Farad per second, or Siemens,
The Suceptance, B,

(8) Henry per second, or Ohm,
The Reactance, X.

In the second case the L and C are in variation with respect to time. The forces, i and e, are held constant, or time invariant. Here the variation with respect to time exists with the Metallic – Dielectric geometry itself. This hereby produces a variation in the geometric co-efficients of capacitance or inductance. These relations are given as,

(9) Farads per second, or Siemens,
The Conductance, G

(10) Henry per second, or Ohm,
The Resistance, R

This CONDUCTANCE, G, and this RESISTANCE, R, represent the relations derived from the time variation of capacitance and from the time variation of inductance, respectively.

It is through this form of parameter variation that the energy stored in the electrical field bounded by the geometric structure is here given to an external form. This is to say, energy is taken out of the electric field and delivered elsewhere.

For a closed system, the energy stored within the electric field is lost, or dissipated, from this system. It is then ENERGY LEAKAGE from the closed system. Considering the condition of a time invariant, or stationary geometric structure, this structure exhibiting the dissipation of the energy stored within the electric field bound by the structure, the conductance, G, and the Resistance, R, are the representations of energy leakage from the dielectric and magnetic fields respectively.

For example, consider one span of a “J carrier” open wire transmission pair. Here the conductance, G, is the “leakage conductance” of the glass telephone insulator, the resistance, R, is the “electronic resistance” of the copperweld telephone wire. These represent the energy dissipation of one span of line.

This conductance, G, represents a “molecular loss” WITHIN the glass of the insulator. This resistance, R, represents a “molecular loss” WITHIN the metal of the wire. Hence it is the molecular losses of the metallic-dielectric geometry itself that gives rise to an energy leakage from a closed system. The molecular agitation and cyclic hysteresis exist within the molecular dimensions of the physical mass of the bounding geometric structure. These consist of a multitude of minute variations of the capacitance and inductance of the geometric form. On a microscopic level the material substance of this form is indefine, a kind of blur in space, due to the multitude of minute variations of positions in space. These tiny motions, hereby through parameter variation, convert the energy stored in the electric field into random patterns of radiation. By experiment it can be shown that this energy leakage exists in proportion to the temperature of the material form storing energy within its bound electric field. In general, the elecro-static potential, e, in Volt, renders the insulators hot, the magneto-motive force, i, in Ampere, renders the wires hot. Also, it is found that this heating increases with increasing frequency of the potential, e, or the M.M.F., i. It is here where the prevailing concept of the “electron” is to be found. Hence it is the motions of the electrons that give rise to the energy loss in an electrical system.

Electrons represent energy dissipation. However, the pedant, the mystic, and the dis-informer all tell us that the electron is what conveys energy, the complete opposite!

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An INCREASING INDUCTANCE OVER TIME is akin to a POSITIVE RESISTANCE
increasing dL/dt = R

A DECREASING INDUCTANCE OVER TIME is akin to a NEGATIVE RESISTANCE
decreasing dL/dt = -R

An INCREASING CAPACITANCE OVER TIME is akin to a POSITIVE CONDUCTANCE
increasing dC/dt = G

A DECREASING CAPACITANCE OVER TIME is akin to a NEGATIVE CONDUCTANCE
decreasing dC/dt = -G


Taking these much further...

Depending on the 'structure'/'shape' of the 'variations' in inductance and capacitance, you can produce many more relations.

For instance...

The second derivative of inductance L is akin to an ELASTANCE (inverse of capacitance).
d2L/dt2 = 1/C
so, an increasing d2L/dt2 = 1/C, a positive ELASTANCE
and a decreasing d2L/dt2 = -1/C, a negative ELASTANCE

Taking it further...

The third derivative of inductance L is akin to CAPACITIVE REACTANCE (ELASTANCE OVER TIME).
d3L/dt3 = 1/C*t = XC
so, an increasing d3L/dt3 = XC , a positive capacitive reactance
and a decreasing d3L/dt3 = -XC, a negative capacitive reactance


If it helps, you can view/relate the second and third derivatives in terms of motional physics. The second derivative could be viewed as the 'acceleration' of the inductance L, and the third derivative could be viewed as the 'jump/jerk' of the inductance L, and of course, the first derivativee of the inductance L could be viewed as the 'velocity' of L.

One interesting note, when upon pondering the above, you find that L could be considered the 'seat' or 'core' of all these parameter variations, and that, resistance, conductance, capacitance, elastance, etc can be viewed as CHANGES in L with respect to time, I find that rather interesting. Not only that, but that ELASTANCE fits more NICELY with the 'natural progression' in the complex changes in L with respect to time than does CAPACITANCE.

There are many other relations that can be made, whether ultimately correct or not, is still a work in progress.

Any insights would be fruitful Eric.

Thanks.

[tao]

I made this image to show in better detail, what I was getting at with my prior post.


edit: I updated the image...

[Pinwheel]

So much drama, so little results.

I think I'm joining the camp that acknowledges that the technology is dead. The bad guys won. Our champion is a crazy person. All is lost. This is not an awakening or some sort of revolutionary 2012 meme Morning Dawn. The bad guys won very thoroughly.

Plan B would be an escape plan rather than the prevention plan that would appear to be plan A.

Perhaps it was just my own misconception that made me think everyone was all about plan A. I have to readjust my own paradigm to realize that the strategy is about escape from captivity. "Operation Triage" - stop the hemorrhaging and treat the very worst first. Leave the dead.

I see little to no evidence that the members of this group will be able to capitalize on EPD's communications so as to come up with a device or even a thorough understanding of the theory. EPD's ability to even communicate is really substandard. Imagine you sent your kid to school to learn pre-calculus but the catch is that he/she has to learn this somewhat advanced subject via the exact same way that the 5 dozen or so of us are supposed to be learning arcane and extinct, actively suppressed, and dead technologies. Your child would not learn pre-calculus would he/she? You wouldn't even blame them.

But we're supposed to figure out aforementioned dead technology (with aforementioned active suppression) via this method of spotty and exclusively 1 way transmissions? I would hazard a guess that one way Morse Code that we were supposed to pick up during our dreams would be about as effective. It's a joke. Learning isn't just data availability - it's also facilitation of that data. That's why your school staff is called a "Faculty". EPD is actually incapable of effective data facilitation as it pertains to this current medium.

Perhaps I'm just in a depressed mood after reading the nonsense in the Yahoo group (which I unsubscribed from), but I find the over all scope of what I see here to be lame. I feel it prudent to acknowledge failure and move on to plan B. Cut your losses. Help EPD finish any valuable communications while he still has coherence (triage). Plan for escape from tyranny rather then the revolutionary 2012 blabla overthrow meme. Maybe in 30 years somebody will be able to have some very preliminary results.

[Aether]

Please, speak for yourself and not myself! Honestly though, the information is there, pioneered by all the men Eric has referenced, it is all a matter of dedicating your time to it to understand what has already been established so long ago, being negative will only lead to one result. Do the work! Nothing is free.

[Raui]

So much drama, so little results.

I think I'm joining the camp that acknowledges that the technology is dead. The bad guys won. Our champion is a crazy person. All is lost. This is not an awakening or some sort of revolutionary 2012 meme Morning Dawn. The bad guys won very thoroughly.

Plan B would be an escape plan rather than the prevention plan that would appear to be plan A.

Perhaps it was just my own misconception that made me think everyone was all about plan A. I have to readjust my own paradigm to realize that the strategy is about escape from captivity. "Operation Triage" - stop the hemorrhaging and treat the very worst first. Leave the dead.

I see little to no evidence that the members of this group will be able to capitalize on EPD's communications so as to come up with a device or even a thorough understanding of the theory. EPD's ability to even communicate is really substandard. Imagine you sent your kid to school to learn pre-calculus but the catch is that he/she has to learn this somewhat advanced subject via the exact same way that the 5 dozen or so of us are supposed to be learning arcane and extinct, actively suppressed, and dead technologies. Your child would not learn pre-calculus would he/she? You wouldn't even blame them.

But we're supposed to figure out aforementioned dead technology (with aforementioned active suppression) via this method of spotty and exclusively 1 way transmissions? I would hazard a guess that one way Morse Code that we were supposed to pick up during our dreams would be about as effective. It's a joke. Learning isn't just data availability - it's also facilitation of that data. That's why your school staff is called a "Faculty". EPD is actually incapable of effective data facilitation as it pertains to this current medium.

Perhaps I'm just in a depressed mood after reading the nonsense in the Yahoo group (which I unsubscribed from), but I find the over all scope of what I see here to be lame. I feel it prudent to acknowledge failure and move on to plan B. Cut your losses. Help EPD finish any valuable communications while he still has coherence (triage). Plan for escape from tyranny rather then the revolutionary 2012 blabla overthrow meme. Maybe in 30 years somebody will be able to have some very preliminary results.

Each to their own, but I feel your roll over and die attitude won't get you far. What we are trying to do IS 'escape from captivity' as you put it and just because you don't see results straight away does not mean nothing is happening. Trees don't grow overnight and our intelligence grows in the same way as a tree grows, slowly and with care. If your not willing to invest time into this you will never see fruits for your labor.

I do agree that we need to get a 2 way flow of information for us to learn correctly though, in the same way as living things don't live by only breathing in we don't learn without feedback. You don't need Eric for feedback though, it is very likely that if you actually read the publications Eric references to your understanding about what Eric is trying to portray would be better than what it is now and Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine is as far as you'll need to go to get just about every one of these. There is a lot going on behind the scenes where a group of us are trying to correct the situation somewhat but for the time being Eric has said that if you write him a letter he will respond but it seems you've already made your mind up..

Raui

[lamare]

So much drama, so little results.

I think I'm joining the camp that acknowledges that the technology is dead. The bad guys won. Our champion is a crazy person. All is lost. This is not an awakening or some sort of revolutionary 2012 meme Morning Dawn. The bad guys won very thoroughly.

Plan B would be an escape plan rather than the prevention plan that would appear to be plan A.

May I invite you to take a look at my "kick some a**" plan?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...e-history.html

[Kokomoj0]

So much drama, so little results.

I think I'm joining the camp that acknowledges that the technology is dead. The bad guys won. Our champion is a crazy person. All is lost. This is not an awakening or some sort of revolutionary 2012 meme Morning Dawn. The bad guys won very thoroughly.

Unfortunately most of these people out here do not understand the meaning of rms or how to properly test them from other respects and their projects are doomed to fail before they even start.

The technology is not dead its just not profitable to the PTB and unless you are able to build it yourself it wont get done and invariably even if you can build it for yourself initial investment is usually quite high, like the electric car for instance.

[Pinwheel]

I knew that I would be pointed out as "being negative". Keep in mind that this is, most often, an ad hominem argument. I'm attempting to be critically minded, unbiased, and therefore helpful actually.

The religious cult of positive thinking, I don't think, will really be able to help us here. Seeing the situation for what it is and then developing plans and adjusting them is the reasonable approach. The situation that I see is that a persons ability to understand and perpetuate the technology is very little different from if Eric happened to be dead.

This thread is titled "Whatever happened to EPD?". Nobody really knew but what if he wasn't around anymore and had passed away? The recent transmissions we have received could be some scrolls that were previously unknown to scholars and were found in a cave at Qumran. The only tiny difference between that absurd scenario this real one we find ourselves in, is that we DO get a form of 100% indirect communication with the John the Baptist character.

Lamare, I will go through your link/project later today. Off the top though, from the little I saw you writing about it, this is what I think: what happens if you're right/successful? Your intentions are to prove that C isn't the ultimate speed limit (thus relativism is fundamentally flawed)? So what?

I'm glad you are doing something, but what are you doing really? Proving that C isn't a hard limit of energy propagation? That's already part of the first moments of the Big Bang Theory (the universe can't expand at only a rate of C or it would be much smaller). Even Stephen Hawking publicly admits that there is problems with relativism. You have success and what? Get funding? Wake people up? I'm reminded of Plato's allegory of The Cave whenever somebody talks about "waking up" any sort of scientific community.

I mean, the Boarderlands group showed on video in the late 80's the propagation of dielectric induction happening faster than C. Why not reproduce that? One would have to actually build a resonating coil to start with. I, for sure, don't know how to do that.

Or Bolo wanted a ready made device he could get into his shop and tinker with. What about that device Lindemann had on an old Boarderlands video? Was it the "Variable Reactance Machine", or something like that? The one where they claim to be disregarding the Law of the Conservation of energy. What about that device? Why not build that? Ask Peter about it. No?

Or the rotary Chris Carson device near the beginning of this thread. Where's that? Does it work or not? Does Bolo or whoever want to reproduce that? Ask Peter about it. Somebody plug it in. If it works, then why? If it doesn't work, then why? Could Peter plug it in and maybe turn on his iphone for a bit and record some video maybe?

Or how big is a Planck? Just like EPD asked earlier in this thread.

Or an answer to the transmission line problem in CGS units.

Or that Boarderlands device that generated an AC signal independent of the rotary speed of the disk (same video as the "Variable Reactance Machine"). How do we build that? Ask Peter. Does Bolo want to make this?

You know what I'm saying? This is why I'm not encouraged. I maybe shouldn't have unregistered from the Yahoo group as perhaps Dave will have different transmissions from EPD than he will be posting in here. But other than that, what else is going on? Nothing.

I suppose that if Lamare is successful then more people might get on the F### Einstein bandwagon. That'd be sweet. Judging by the reaction from the neutrino news out of CERN I think the 99% are already actually on that bandwagon (or close), and it's just the 1% that need to keep their game face on for whatever reason.

I'm just rambling now. I'm going for a coffee.

Actually, before I go I just remembered something I've been thinking about. EPD and Tesla's means for separating the two inductions was resonating coils. All your magnetism end up on one end and all your dielectricity ends up on the other. The propagation and usage of the two separate inductions then was the main body of work of Tesla.

So really, figuring out how to separate the inductions, and tinker with them safely, in my opinion, IS a fruitful methodology to enhance understanding of, and also perpetuate, the dead technology.

See, I'm not just "being negative". I got solution ideas too.

References: Plato's allegory of The Cave.

The Cave: An Adaptation of Plato's Allegory in Clay - YouTube

[lamare]

@Pinwheel:

All the examples you bring forth have been done before. It is not a problem of technology. It's a political problem, as I wrote in my article before:

Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

Let me add one more thing to the discussion about what this is all about, cause in the end this is not so much a scientific or technical issue. It's really the same thing as what we are doing for ages. At some point, somebody thought "hey, the wind is blowing and delivers energy. Can't we use that to get power?" Good idea, let's make a windmill. Next thing, hey, water is flowing in a river and delivers energy. Good idea, so we got the watermill. Hey, the sun is shining light to the earth, which delivers energy. So we got solar panels. Hey, there is heat in the earth, can't we use that? Good idea, so we got heat pumps. And now someone comes along and says: "Hey, the electric field spreads with the spead of light from every charge carrier in the universe and delivers energy. Can't we use that to get power?". And all of a sudden that is "fringe" science, "impossible" and the like, while it's really the same thing. The difference is not a so much technical issue, but a political issue, because this energy source is so cheap and readily available that it will put a whole lot of companies out of business and frees the people of the earth of the burden associated with the need for energy. And that is why the whole scientific community acts like a bunch of religious zealots, as if it were written "Thy shalt not use an energy source that is cheaper than oil". And that is also why this technology will not be introduced to the people of this planet trough the scientific community, but it will be introduced bottom up, it will be a grass roots movement which is unstoppable now the knowledge how to do it is out in the public.

So, what we are facing is a political problem, not a technical problem. And the way to tackle a political problem is publicity. What better way to generate publicity than to disprove Einstein using the single 25 meter radio telescope in the world that is available for experimentation to radio amateurs?

And of course, I also have covered the theoretical disproval of Einstein's relativity at my site:
Tuks DrippingPedia : Ruins 96 Years Einstein Relativity

The same site where you can find all of Eric's work I could get my hands on.



And I have played these kinds of games before, so I have some experience on how to play in the public arena:
Dutch Parliament Considers Revoking Support for Patent Directive

So, fasten your seatbelts and enjoy the ride!

[Web000x]

I see little to no evidence that the members of this group will be able to capitalize on EPD's communications so as to come up with a device or even a thorough understanding of the theory.

Just because we don't boast every other post about what we have learned or what we are doing doesn't mean that we are not working to apply Eric's theory. Please speak for yourself and YOUR lack of understanding/ability only.

Dave