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  • Kokomoj0
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    this looks like a replication of the EPD pancake tesla coil.

    has the flat strap for good impulse response and he tunes them in phase.

    Not sure if this demonstrates DC but I did notice there were no arcs in the bulb, just a hot cathode from what I can tell.

    This may turn out interesting.

    Tesla Wireless Power Transmission, Part 2 - YouTube

    he is going to tune it to the shulman resonance which I am not sure is proper tuning. I thought proper was when you could crank the fr up to pi/2*c and get another resonant point.

    So it appears to be a replica but may not be performing as one????
    Last edited by Kokomoj0; 12-02-2011, 08:39 AM.

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  • skaght
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    Electrical Soliton wave?

    So is a longitudinal EM wave a soliton? There are articles describing how to build soliton non-linear oscillators. Are these devices producing longitudinal waves or are solitons something altogether different?

    see:
    http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~donhee/so_ims.pdf

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  • madhatter
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    here's an excellent article, it also may be useful to the moon bounce experiment. note though that results c+V for light experiments are known and suppressed actively.

    http://users.navi.net/~rsc/physics/wallace/farce.txt

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  • t-rex
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    Einstein, Tesla, and the Wizard of Oz

    Einstein and his theories can be expressed by an animal story: As understood thru his writing Relativity as a “package of ideas” is in many ways similar to the “egg of the coo-coo bird”. The coo-coo bird builds no nest of its own, it looks for the right next among those other birds. Here found it lays its egg in the selected next of another bird. Upon hatching its chick forces the others out of the nest, over the side. Such is the growth cycle of Relativity, as given by Einstein.

    In order to understand the Einsteinian reasoning certain logical relationships are taken from “Relativity”, by Albert Einstein, Random House Publisher, 1916, page 50. Here given is;

    (1) Proposition (A) is Electro-Dynamic Theory, Maxwell – Lorentz.

    (2) Proposition (B) is Relativistic Theory Einstein – Minkowski.

    (3) There are many experiments in favor of (A), or also in favor of (B).

    (4) These experiments “limit the theoretical possibilities” so that only (A) holds to the test of experience.

    (5) Certain experiments conform to (A) thru an “Auxiliary Hypothesis” which is “extraneous without (B).”

    Consider Einstein’s statement on the same page 50;

    “In the theoretical treatment of these electrons we are faced with the difficulty that electro-dynamic theory of itself is unable to give an account of their nature.” “For since electrical masses constituting the electron would necessarily be scattered under the influence of their mutual repulsions, unless there are forces of another kind operating between them the nature of which has hitherto remained obscure to us.”

    Forces of another kind, you mean the dielectric lines of force, removed from obscurity by the Faraday – Thompson concept of induction? Every electron is a motional terminus of a quantity of dielectric lines of force, these lines contracting and stretching like rubber bands, giving motion to the terminus electron. The thermionic electron contracts, pulling the electron, the cathode ray stretching, pulled by the electron. In the former case the lines of force are dissipated, in the latter case the line of force are projected, both cases the electrons assume ray like motion, with non participating lines of force filling the voids, directing the electrons. Hence, it is the electrons travel in straight lines, that is, rays.

    These facts have been known from the initial invention of the “Vacuum Tube” by Sir William Crookes, leading to the extensive experimental work into atomic science by J. J. Thompson, and Nikola Tesla. It is here seen that the so-called electron is only a shadow, its apparent physical mass is only an electrical momentum. There is no rest mass to an electron. It is given here the electron is no more than a broken loose “hold fast” under the grip of the tensions within the dielectric lines of force. They are the broken ends of the split in half package of spaghetti. Obviously this reasoning is not welcome in the realm of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. Are we to believe that Einstein had no prior knowledge of the most prominent theoretical and experimental work of his time?

    Continuing from “Relativity” by Albert Einstein, page 51.

    “The second class of facts to which we have alluded has a reference to the question whether or not the motion of the Earth in space can be made perceptible in terrestrial experiments.”…”All attempts of this nature led to a negative result.” Einstein’s Relativity leads to the conclusion that no point of reference in the Galilean sense can actually exist, that is, all points of reference are relative to each other. This relativity is in a Lorentz transform rather that a Galilean Transform. No absolute reference possible, it is everything is relative. This is tantamount to the denial of the existence of God. Forgotten is that relativity did not find favor in its day, for this very reason, it is atheistic. Like Existentialism, or Cubism, Relativism represents a most destructive philosophical construct by which to afflict modern man. The destructive philosophical forces flowered as the “Third Reich”.

    The monophasic dielectric forces developed thru the work of Nikola Tesla nullify relativistic relations. Tesla, thru a unique space-time hysteresis electrically “grounded” to a zero order Galilean coordinate system. It is also the cathode ray projector tubes utilized by Tesla in his atomic studies also nullify relativistic relations. Tesla’s remarks about “radiant matter” indicate the existence of cosmic rays of immense penetrating power moving fifty (50) times faster than the velocity of light (Le Sage particles). Here Albert Einstein is in direct contradiction with the experimental researches of Nikola Tesla, and in complete ignorance of the experimental researches of J. J. Thompson. Einstein “layed his egg” in the “nest of Faraday”. From here it is that “Theoretical Physics” is henceforth divorced from “Electrical Science”. In turn Theoretical Physics made a “Wh*re” of Maxwell, the “offspring” of Faraday.

    Recently, in the “Los Angeles Times” newspaper, a series of page long editorials were given on Einstein, this as “Damage Control” over the European C.E.R.N. superluminal particle experiments. The L.A . Times is harsh, stating that C.E.R.N. was irresponsible, and must ask for permission to publish such findings! Later editorial writings express Einstein as the supreme authority, the spiritual master, etc. Well, after all, He pushed to make an E equals mc squared bomb to effect the genocide of the German People. A real holy man, don’t you think?

    In epilogue, when Albert Einstein came to America, amid the accolades, and the fanfare, he was naturally introduced to T. A. Edison, the “Axle grease and timbers” all American Scientist-Inventor. The “coyote like” Edison cunningly produced one of his company intelligence tests for Einstein to complete. Einstein did not do so good on Edison’s company examination, he did not know the speed of sound! Is it possible here that Einstein is just another version of Marconi, both in defiance to Tesla. Finally, January 1, 200 A Time Magazine cover declares Albert Einstein the “Man of the Century”. We verily have been duped!

    So here we stand. We have penetrated the Giant One Winged Parrot. While the multitudes have been quivering at the feet of this awesome idol, the Poodle went around to the rear of it, revealing no more than a diminutive circus operator at a small control panel. This formidable idol is no more than a giant CIRCUS PROP! Now can we go back to Kansas?

    73 DE N6KPH SK

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  • madhatter
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    here's a good read:
    A Dissident View of Relativity Theory by William H. Cantrell, Ph.D.

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  • madhatter
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    Originally posted by Kokomoj0 View Post
    do you by any chance have any references we can study?
    Not sure where to start as that post is mainly my unpolished theory. It's a result of many yrs of study in quantum physics and quantum electrodynamics. The bane of Eric's posts on electricity. I'm not sure what level of physics Eric has studied over the yrs. There are some use full things within the quantum framework as it's mostly an unknown and this provides some excellent contradictions to relativity. If one can keep their head straight and not fall into a hard set believe on what is in actuality an unproven theory, there is much to be taken from it to support the fact that Einsteins relativity isn't correct.

    It would be very difficult to suggest reference material on a subject that is so confusing as the quantum scale that would be useful. The bulk of the material holds fast to an interpretation that supports relativity under transformation, when in reality there are many interpretations and it goes all the way back to Schrodinger and lectures by Louis De Broglie who has some of the various interpretations by physicists around the early 1900's.

    I'll see if I can post up excerpts from the lectures in a bit.

    because the math born out of relativity is very close to experimental results it is held as a true working theory, this also opens the debate over falsifiability of SR due to it's constraints. what needs not be forgotten is that the experimental results are predicated by the math, this means that results will always correlate to the theory unless the theory changes and is yet another debatable point. Within relativity you end up with circular logic and this will always result in a draw and a headache.

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  • Kokomoj0
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    Originally posted by madhatter View Post
    Eric, If I understand you correctly you're right that there is missing units and the equations are incomplete. the fields are constantly being reduced to an singularity of a line! this constant 'collapse' is so inaccurate it gives rise to the many body problem and the HUP principal.

    What I can't find digging thru the works of Steinmetz, Heaviside, Maxwell, etc.. is a clear definition of an electron, it's currently a subunit of a field that is at best an nebulous unit.

    The monopole is correct, how it gets transformed into a dipole upon moving from the electron to an electron cloud is beyond me. treated at the singular level it's a monopole with very interesting results, an up/down spin with a magnetic g factor that's twice the originally calculated results, well no wonder they're treating it as a point particle orbital with a collapse vs a uniform field.

    How I see it so far....
    Take a spherical electromagnetic field of n size and remove everything inside this space, we will treat it as a perfect vacuum. Inside this magnetic field is simply a lower bound energy level of the electrostatic field to the boundary layer of the magnetic field, ignoring edge sheath effects. taking this 'pure' electrostatic field of low potential of say a single electron can be still be of any size space as the electron is a field and not tangible particle. this space is now the electron field potential, so any n space is the electrostatic field potential. an electron is a monopole, in this space is a field of monopole energy, it's distribution may be uniform or of uneven potential. the propagation or velocity of a light wave thru this space will be dependent upon the potential in that electrostatic field space, thus there is no fixed velocity or limit of wave propagation as it is dependent upon the electrostatic field potential.

    This is a simply overview and carries some complex features of what the electrostatic field potential is and it's wave functions. I'm still working out the time equation so it's not circular in reference. Energy to mass is also missing in this as mass is already an energy state bound by it's wave function and adding mass via an increase in velocity per relativity would change the very nature of the wave function and the mass itself violating the basic premiss of the electrostatic field. it's simply not possible.

    This may be of no use to anyone here and not relevant directly to Eric's work, but it flies in the face of relativity as it is not holding to the constant C or energy matter conversion.

    do you by any chance have any references we can study?

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  • madhatter
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    Eric, If I understand you correctly you're right that there is missing units and the equations are incomplete. the fields are constantly being reduced to an singularity of a line! this constant 'collapse' is so inaccurate it gives rise to the many body problem and the HUP principal.

    What I can't find digging thru the works of Steinmetz, Heaviside, Maxwell, etc.. is a clear definition of an electron, it's currently a subunit of a field that is at best an nebulous unit.

    The monopole is correct, how it gets transformed into a dipole upon moving from the electron to an electron cloud is beyond me. treated at the singular level it's a monopole with very interesting results, an up/down spin with a magnetic g factor that's twice the originally calculated results, well no wonder they're treating it as a point particle orbital with a collapse vs a uniform field.

    How I see it so far....
    Take a spherical electromagnetic field of n size and remove everything inside this space, we will treat it as a perfect vacuum. Inside this magnetic field is simply a lower bound energy level of the electrostatic field to the boundary layer of the magnetic field, ignoring edge sheath effects. taking this 'pure' electrostatic field of low potential of say a single electron can be still be of any size space as the electron is a field and not tangible particle. this space is now the electron field potential, so any n space is the electrostatic field potential. an electron is a monopole, in this space is a field of monopole energy, it's distribution may be uniform or of uneven potential. the propagation or velocity of a light wave thru this space will be dependent upon the potential in that electrostatic field space, thus there is no fixed velocity or limit of wave propagation as it is dependent upon the electrostatic field potential.

    This is a simply overview and carries some complex features of what the electrostatic field potential is and it's wave functions. I'm still working out the time equation so it's not circular in reference. Energy to mass is also missing in this as mass is already an energy state bound by it's wave function and adding mass via an increase in velocity per relativity would change the very nature of the wave function and the mass itself violating the basic premiss of the electrostatic field. it's simply not possible.

    This may be of no use to anyone here and not relevant directly to Eric's work, but it flies in the face of relativity as it is not holding to the constant C or energy matter conversion.

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  • Kokomoj0
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    I have questions but its going to take a bit of time for me to digest that post so I certainly hope you stick around for a while.

    Meantime I do not understand how one can tune to both cycle-decibels and cycles per second at the same time to produce a second order of tuning in the same coil since each travel at different speeds/distances?

    Also I understand that we have 3 circulating paths, or at least that is what I think I understand

    I also took the liberty to go to the other site and hope no one objects to my posting the 160 meter posting you made here too as being an old antenna builder I have interests there as well. Either way any objections I will remove it.

    Build your own - 160 Meter Ham Band Alexanderson Antenna In 1919 in Bolinas, CA the United States Navy commissioned Ernst Alexanderson of General Electric to adapt the existing Marconi antenna into a scalar transmission network for VLF communications. The operating frequency was 18.6 KC. A 100:1 scale model operates on 1860 KC, the 160 meter ham band. This Alexanderson model could be the first ham radio non-electromagnetic communication system. As of yet, this has not been built and tested. Possibly transmitting between a pair, resulting in space scalar communications, for the first time. Theoretically no time delay, and very little attenuation. Try it and see.

    Downloads :: AMERICAN MARCONI FOUNDATION
    Alexanderson Antenna System at a scale of 1 : 100 (Second item down on the page)

    System for the Transmission and Reception of Telluric electric waves (5th item down on the page)

    Later will come the 160 meter ham band Tesla magnifying transmitter.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ard&aq=f&aql=f

    Theory of Wireless Power by E. P. Dollard.

    73 DE N6KPH

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  • lessismore
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    DC Transmission Line II (5-?)

    Wow, the previous post sure puts my puny efforts in perspective.

    Dec. 3 - Since no one has yet pointed out my lapses I will fix them here in italics.

    I am going to try a more generic approach to balancing the forces in the transmission line.

    Equation 40 on page 138 of the “Discharges book” gives an equivalency between the L and C in a given transmission line:

    Where C is the capacitance in farads per cm and L1 is inductance external to the conductors in henrys per cm. k is the specific capacitance or permittivity and µ the permeability of the medium. v is the velocity of light in cm per second. You can calculate L from C and C from L:



    Starting from the dielectric and magnetic energy of the transmission line circuit. Length is the length of the line in cm.



    The force is the change in energy with respect to changes in s. Note that s being measured in a direction parallel to the direction of the force. Set the sum of the forces to zero.



    The Lengths cancel out. Next substitute L for C and apply chain rule. The derivatives of L will cancel out. Then substitute C for L.



    Taking the square root of both sides:



    which has just been shown to be the same ratio of e to i which causes the magnetic and dielectric forces to balance.
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  • t-rex
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    The Lamare Longitudinal Transmission Experiment/N.F.G Interlude

    I received Lamare’s package of material, very good to see the activity it has roused. I am not sure as to how the spherical antenna is made, nor the field patterns it engenders so I can offer no comment.

    Plenty of N.F.G. here in Lone Pine. Here N.F.G. for me was the Annenburg Foundation of Los Angeles. Useless Einsteiners. Same story, Oh yes I will help you, let me store your driveshaft, it will be fine. Then it all vanished. Duped again. Further, oriental mysticism blocks my writing on forum!

    I fail to understand why what I have shown repeatedly thru experiment and theory just seems to fly over everyone’s head. I use no more than high school science and math. The impediment can only be attributed to a pathological mysticism, or mental retardation. While the latter is intrinsic, the former is induced. Is it no surprise that the only man in Lone Pone who gets what I am saying is a truck driver, Bart. My Einstein series was initiated by him and is thus dedicated to him.

    The mystical experience is the force which moves one to science. It is transitory. The mysticism dissolves into Science and then bears fruit as Engineering. Mysticism, as defined in my writing, is not transitory. It is continuous and thus hates Science. Without a mystery the mystic is no longer the priest. This is a Platonic Epistemology. It is based upon Faith, not upon Reason. This is a necessity in Christianity, however in the majority of situations this Faith is based upon nebulous reasoning. With Lawyer like skill it’s factors change meaning depending upon their position in space, time, or “attitude”. Platonic reasoning is ultimately Totalitarian. See “Occult Science Dictatorship” by Lyne.

    This Platonic reasoning is next taken up by Einstein and formed into a Kabalistic-Existentialist view of physical reality, this in direct conflict with Nature’s Laws. Einstein is the image of an ultimate and infallible creature who should be regarded as a God. The i force society of today is the flower, me, my, I, and you, you’re a piece of ****! Here lay the foundation for the extinction of Science and Engineering in the U.S.A. Wow, Mr. Wizard, do they want to kill us? See the Commonweal – Michael – Lerner, Judaic – Buddistic Global Religion Philosophy. To say any more on Einstein would be, as Oliver said, “Slaying the slain.” Let dead dogs lay.

    However, to continue pandering, Bearden takes us right back to mysticism. But more so, he is a dis-informer making sure no one figures out Tesla. What would Israel say about “Tesla Weapons” in Iran? Or, would we want them in the hands of Israel?

    Then we have the Corum, K.L. and J.F. This is the P.E.E.E. Forget them, no Tesla knowledge exists here. And then A. Puharich (not real name). Remember at the “Last Supper” R. Josh Reynolds cut funding to A. Puharich, stating I had done more on Food Stamps than he had with millions of dollars. I am QRU on all this. In reality only I seem to be able to understand Tesla and I guess that should make me feel good, so that’s that.

    At this time I am engaged in the study of details for the continuation of Inductance and Capacitance series of writings. The established dimensional relations are N.F.G., even in the writings of C.P. Steinmetz. Too many canceled dimensions thru unit values, and lots of missing versors in space. For example, in Inductance calculations the radius of a circle is a line, the circumference of a circle is a circle. Here we have two distinct co-ordinate systems, or vector expressions, a kind of space quadrature. Thus
    c = 2(pi)r Centimeters

    is not vectorally complete, it is
    c = 2(pi)kr Centimeters
    where k is a versor operator. Hence it is that c and 2πr are not interchangeable. Here is an important complication in the dimensional relations for Inductance and Capacitance.

    As for the factor pi over two in the Longitudinal Velocity, it represents an integration and is not an actual velocity, per-se. This pi over two also can result from improper derivation of the distributed constants for transmission structures. This is shown in the paper (I.R.E.) “Electrical Oscillations in Antennae and Induction Coils”, J. Miller, 1919.

    The propagation of a Transverse Electro-Magnetic Wave is given by the dimensional relation
    Centimeter per Second,
    Or Velocity, v

    This represents the ratio of space, centimeter, to time, second.

    In a conjugate form the propagation constant of a Longitudinal Magneto-Dielectric Wave is given by the dimensional relation,
    Per Centimeter, per Second,
    Or per (Centimeter – Second)

    Counter – Velocity, u.

    This is the ratio of counterspace, per centimeter, to time, seconds.

    In an alternate form of expression, the T.E.M. propagation constant is the square root of the product
    Henry per Second, Mu

    And,
    Farad per Second, Epsilon.

    And for the L.M.D. propagation constant, it is the square root of the product
    Per (Henry – Centimeter)

    And
    Per (Farad – Centimeter)

    The composite propagation constant hence is the superposition of the velocity, v, and the counter velocity, u. The two are not dimensionally additive so a versor and a dimensional transform of centimeter square is required.

    The T.E.M. wave is always along the axis of the metallic geometry, tangent to the metallic boundary. Such is given by the “Co-axial Cable”. Conversely, the L.M.D. wave is always perpendicular to the axis of the metallic geometry, normal to the metallic boundary. Such is given by the “Transformer Winding”. The resulting complex propagation of v and u is a spiral with a tilt angle from the metallic axes of the coiled winding. Where T.E.M. waves drag into the metallic (electron flow) the L.M.D. wave bypasses the metallic (no electron flow) hence no Ohmic resistance. The factor pi over two is the composite propagation for only a unique set of parameters. See “The Oscillating Coil” part of the “Theory of Wireless Power” E.P. Dollard. Note here that errors found a way into the tables, but the equations are right. Now why could not the Corum’s figure this out? Why is it they make no reference to any work on this by Blume, Bewely, Dollard, and etc? The Corums, Well?

    One very important fact that escapes notice (Meyl, et al) is that Tesla’s transmission networks are Mono-Polar. The dipolar concepts so dear to all now swirl down the toilet bowl (burp). Forget Bearden, Forget Meyl, it is crap for the crapper! Tesla circumvents the concept of plus and minus, there is one pole only, plus. Here is a true “Single Phase” Alternating Current, one wire only. This is a philosophically disruptive concept for the God vs. Devil duality. God has no opposite pole, it is one, positive only. This is the secret to the Tesla transmission concept. Action vs. Reaction now is voided.

    When considering a resonant coil in its fundamental mode of oscillation, as the Tesla “Extra Coil”, the potential e at the terminal end is 90º (pi/2 radians) ahead in time phase compared to the E.M.F. E at the lower end. This is given by the relation
    e = (b/a)*jE
    Where
    e, the Electrostatic Potential in Volts

    E, is the Electro-Motive Force in Volts

    a, is the Power Factor

    b, is the Induction Factor of the Oscillating Coil

    It is hereby seen that no circulation of flux lines is possible, hence the coil becomes “Longitudinally Transmissive.” Potential e and E.M.F. E exist in separate time frames. This relationship cannot be produced by a two wire (T.E.M. quarter wave line because here the laws of circuitation rule. It must be a single wire so configured as to allow propagation normal to the axis of the metallic boundary, (L.M.D.).

    Hereby enclosing the electrostatic terminal of a Tesla transmission system within a metallic sphere will fail to shield the radial dielectric lines of force, whereas a dipolar system within the metallic sphere cannot get out of this sphere except that leaking thru the transmission line entry opening. It is that simple, but no one gets it. Every one jumps back to Bearden, Corum, Meyl, and stays mystified, WHY?

    Certain considerations present themselves when applying the notion of “Antenna Gain” with regard to T.E.M. and L.M.D. propagation. The directivity of T.E.M. waves is based on the spatial dimensional relation of area. High gain is a large aperture, centimeter square, (a big dish). It is given dimensionally as
    Area equals

    Width times k*Height

    This is a cross product, k is the right angle operator, a versor of dimensionless form. Wave propagation is normal to the surface of this area of width cross height, on the axis of versor k. Heaviside calls this
    Vwh = l

    The transverse product of width and height is length. V is his vector product operator.

    The situation is much different for the L.M.D. wave. Directivity here is co-linear, or axial. Dimensionally it is given as
    Length times Length

    Equals Length squared

    Wave propagation is co-linear with this length squared. This axial “Antenna” must now be counter – spatial in form, that is, it must be subdivided. The apparent physical length here is now only an integrated resultant derived from the summation of counterspatial spans. A ruler with 16th inch spans has a physical length of one foot. Hereby it may be that a “Big Dish” is not the way to go for L.M.D. waves.

    However, by another line of reasoning, since we have no established Truths as of yet, consider “Electric Sound Waves” in the Aether. After all that is what Tesla said. See Thornberg’s work on “Maxwellian electric sound waves in the Aether”. So it is required to make an electrical analog to sound. Helmholtz works to cover this but Heaviside points out the math is no good.

    The P and S seismic wave analog looks good. What is needed is an alternative to Mu in Henry per centimeter and Epsilon in Farad per centimeter. In the L.M.D. theory it is not Mu nor Epsilon but per (Henry – cm) and per (Farad – cm). This is seen in the P & S wave papers sent to me by Lamare. Tesla praised Helmholtz but it may take another Oliver to make it work. Here a “Big Dish” may work.

    Finally, I put out on the “Heretical Builder” forum an Alexanderson “Antenna” for the 160 meter ham band. It is a scalar (space) wave guide structure and has no wavelength, hence “space scalar”. This network is scaled upon the 18.6 kilo-cycle version made for the Navy at station KET, Bolinas, California. A scale of 100 to 1 was selected hence 18.6 kc becomes 1860 kc, a ham frequency. This network produces a Longitudinal Dielectric form of propagation, with no magnetic component. Pure “Dielectric Waves” ala J.J. Thomson. Space scalar transmission may be possible between identical units in phase sync. A great ham radio project, but you will not find it in QST. But no one makes it, has Ham radio, once considered a National Technical Asset, now become a useless hobby of self denial? If so, the F.C.C. will no longer consider it valid and take steps to phase it out of existence by some “911 phantasy laws”. So do we run back to Bearden’s dipoles smashing electrons on the 405 freeway, back to Meyl’s Edmund Scientific Toys, and back to the Corum math masterbations upon the resonant coil, back to the feet of the one wing parrot? I hope not!

    73 DE N6KPH SK
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  • lamare
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    Originally posted by Kokomoj0 View Post
    so have you tried it yet on a transmission line to see who is closer?
    No, and that is not easy to measure with a transmission line. However, with a radio telescope performing a moon-bounce at about dec 21st, we get a return time of 1,54932687869881 seconds when using the pi/2 formula, while we get 1,56065598874604 seconds when using my formula, when calculating for a distance of 364799 km:
    Moon distance for Lansing, U.S.A. - Michigan in year 2011

    This gives a difference of about 11 milliseconds, which should be easily detectable. At the Dwingeloo site, they can measure within a fraction of a millisecond:

    ASTRON JIVE Daily Image

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  • Kokomoj0
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    Originally posted by lamare View Post
    Hi all,

    As you know I'm working on a longitudinal moonbounce project and am currently calculating my antenna. I found out that the transverse surface wave across the sphere can be expressed with the theoretical formula for Schumann resonance:

    Schumann resonances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    I calculated the diameter for a 1/2 lambda sphere using Dollard's formula that the speed of longitudinal waves is pi/2 times c, but then the corresponding Schuman resonance frequency turned out to be 1287 MHz, which should be 1296 MHz if Eric's formula is correct.

    So, I compared the Schuman formula with the formula for resonance in a string, basically a 1/2 lambda resonance with closed ends:



    Since L = 2r, we can now calculate the theoretical speed c_l. When we take n=1 in the string formula and n=2 in the Schumann formula, we end up with matching resonance frequencies.

    Since n(n +1) equals 6 for n=2, we get:



    This works out to:



    This computes to 1,559393604, while pi/2 computes to 1,570796325, a difference of 0,7%.....

    So, now we have a theoretical derivation for the longitudinal wave speed, which turns out to be just a tiny bit lower than Eric's pi/2...

    so have you tried it yet on a transmission line to see who is closer?

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  • Ras
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    Originally posted by Pinwheel View Post
    For the record, EPD refusing to interact with modern technology in any way is just as absurd as having the worlds last highly qualified pre-natal neuro surgeon refusing to do a complicated surgery because he doesn't believe in the new "robo-scalpel".
    In engineering, I am so far below most of the people here that I don't even plan to participate in the technical discussion in the near future, if ever. But, for me, it is sooo easy to understand Eric Dollard for being 'analog' and not 'digital'. The electrical science took the wrong turn in XX century. The whole technology we use today is a product of that bad decision, forced by economical and political reasons (to maintain slavery of the people). What would the world look like if it accepted Tesla's solutions? We cannot even imagine! Using modern 'digital' technology is the acceptance of the slavery, or could be understood that way.
    Now, Eric may not understand things this way, but I do. And the fact that Eric refuses 'modern' technology only confirms (if you ask me) that he is a true scientist, genuine and honest. That, along the facts that he advocates 'live food' (raw vegan, I assume) and listening to Bach (for years, I have almost exclusively listened to Baroque) made him the most popular person on the planet for me .
    One thing I think that Eric owes to the world is a book with title such as 'True Electricity' or something like that, with a thorough study of Teslian electricity vs. Einsteinian physics. This book would then, in an ideal world, be required in all high schools and universities in the world. All of them.
    Last edited by Ras; 11-25-2011, 07:02 PM.

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    Electricity, Atomic Science, and Relativity

    It has been developed thus far the general meaning of the concept One Over c Squared. Hence a broader understanding of what is meant by the “speed of light” has been obtained. The factor, c, is best not considered a velocity, it is a proportionality ratio of time and space. By virtue of c being a ratio it is dimensionally equivalent to a velocity, but c should not be considered a velocity in and of itself.

    Also given has been that light should not be considered a material projection, it is not, light is not the “Cereal Shot From Guns”. It has a propagation of the medium itself. For a motional transmitter, the so called “Doppler Effect” maintains the energy balance, raising the frequency in proportion to the motional velocity of the transmitter. The wavelength accordingly gets shorter. Thus the luminal velocity of the transmitted wave is always c, a constant. The concept of “hysteresis, or velocity,” was touched upon.

    Finally, it was given thru the Faraday – Thompson concepts, that the mechanical momentum and the electrical momentum are two distinct forms of energy storage. This obviates any so called “Mass – Energy Equivalency,” no E equals mc squared. It is in reality, not relativity, the momentum of the electric field itself that grows asymptotically in magnitude when the physical velocity nears luminal velocity. These ideas are based upon the very foundation of Electrical Theory. This is shown in “Electricity and Matter”. Albert Einstein ignores these concepts in his Theory of Relativity, they just do not exist. This is given in “Occult Aether Physics”. Einstein has substituted a form of mysticism to replace logical reasoning, he is a mystic.

    Reviewing the writings of J. J. Thompson, Atomic Science is here seen to emerge in its infant form. Concepts now considered the realm of Albert Einstein, in actuality were those of J. J. Thompson. For example, in his book “Electricity and Matter”, the idea of the Planck, a quantity of induction, is given, quote from page 63;

    “The Faraday tubes stretching thru the Aether cannot be regarded as entirely filling it. They are rather to be looked upon as discrete threads embedded in a continuous Aether, giving to the latter a fibrous structure; but if this is the case, then on this the view we have taken of a wave of light the wave itself must have a structure, and the front of the wave, instead of being, as it were, uniformly illuminated, will be represented by a series of bright specks corresponding to the places where the Faraday tubes cut the front.” Hence the Planck, Q. Here Thompson gives its size as that of a unit Faraday Tube, this being one Coulomb. So, how bit is a Planck?

    In his “Electricity and Matter” J. J. Thompson establishes the concept of Atomic Energy, pre-dating Einstein by a decade. To quote, from page 111;

    “Let us take the case of the Hydrogen atom for which n equals 1000, (n is the number of Faraday tubes, or electronic corpuscles), and take for a the value usually assumed in the kinetic theory of gases for the radius of the atom, i.e., 10 to the minus 8 centimeter. Then the energy is 1.02 time 10 to the plus 19 ergs; this amount of energy would be sufficient to lift a million tons thru a height exceeding one hundred yards.” Here J. J. Thompson gives not only a dimensional relation for Atomic Energy, but establishes the size of the Planck via the tubes of induction within the Hydrogen atom. Thompson gives 1000 corpuscles, we say one electron. Hereby given is a dielectric induction, psi, in Coulomb, of 1000 lines per electron. The Planck can now be quantified. How is it that Einstein ignores all of this information in his Theory of Relativity?

    In order to better understand the Einstein concept of “Relativity” certain concepts must be given;

    (1) Galilean Transformation
    (2) Lorentz Transformation
    (3) Minkowski Space – Time

    These subjects are normally out of the realm of Electrical Engineering. In brief, the Galilean Transform affixes a point of reference in space from which to observe motions in that space. Nothing is attributed to space itself. Here derived is the concept that the Earth is not the center of the Universe, it only appears so when moving with the Earth. When the system of co-ordinates for observation is “Transformed” from those of the Earth to those of the Sun, the Sun now appears the center of the universe. This transformation process can be carried, stage by stage, until a co-ordinate system at universal rest is reached, the “Cosmic Ground”. Nikola Tesla achieved this thru electrical means. Einstein’s Relativity says this is not possible, no Cosmic Ground can be found. Everything is relative, and must be so.

    Einstein replaces the idea of a Galilean Transform with that of the Lorentz Transform. The Lorentz Transformation is in some ways like the Doppler effect, it is a numeric factor by which the impedance to motion increases asymptotically as the motional velocity nears luminal velocity. It is given by the relation,

    (1) One minus the ratio of the velocity square to c square

    Denoting this relation as the factor gamma square, this is the difference of alpha square and beta square, it is given by

    (2) Gamma square, or alpha square minus beta square

    Here alpha equals one, and beta is defined as the ratio of motional velocity, v, and the Luminal Velocity, c. Hence relation (2) represents that of a hyperbola. Hereby gamma square is

    (3) One squared minus v squared over c squared

    The Lorentz transform is then defined as one over gamma, and it is unity for zero motional velocity, and is infinite for a motional velocity of the speed of light. Hence the impedance to physical motion is infinite at a velocity of c, via relativistic reasoning. However is it that this is only valid for charged particles and not gross physical matter?

    Because the Lorentz transform is the square root of a hyperbolic function, it can be inferred here by the existence of another “so called Universe” where a particle cannot slow down to the speed of light. Hence a pair of conditions exist here. One group of particles cannot be accelerated up to the speed of light, and a conjugate group of particles cannot be de-accelerated down to the speed of light. Wow Mr. Wizard, Einstein never told us that!

    Minkowski space – time has already been discussed, but in review, Cartesian third order space is made Minkowski fourth order space by the addition of a fictitious co-ordinate, or length, derived as a light – second, ct. To be “cool” Minkowski affixes a versor operator, the square root of minus one, to this fictional length. Gaussian co-ordinates are utilized.

    Combining terms from the versor hyperbolic function of the Lorentz transform to the terms of the Minkowski four – space produces a resultant 16 co-ordinates, (or wrongly dimesions). Consider the versor operator on the fourth co-ordinate, or light – second, here exists four distinct “space – time continuums” in two quadrature time frames, all this with the velocity of light as a common pole. This has now become in-ordinatly overcomplicated, but thru the lawyer style skill of the Einsteinian Physicists all terms are erased that do not fit the chosen idea. It may be inferred that A. Einstein was not much of a mathematician, and by ignoring J. J. Thompson he was not much of a scientist. Not a mathematician, not a scientist, not an engineer, so just what was Albert Einstein anyway? He was a Mystic.

    Basic electrical knowledge is based upon the theories known as “Faraday – Maxwell”. Out of this basic “arch-form” have grown the

    (1) Maxwell – Thompson Theory

    (2) Maxwell – Heaviside Theory

    (3) Maxwell – Lorentz Theory

    (4) Maxwell – Einstein Theory

    It is that Maxwell has many interpreters, but where is Maxwell’s words? This is much like Christianity. Many religions, many churches, but no Jesus. Jesus is not a welcome guest in any church, nor is Maxwell. Here given is an intrinsic property of Human Society. It is written, it is invariably terminal, Jesus at age 33.

    In the advancement of electrical engineering theory C. P. Steinmetz dropped Maxwell all together. Hereby Steinmetz developed his important transformer equations, the very foundation of transformer theory. The first vestige of a theory on longitudinal electric waves is seen here. Steinmetz primarily directed his efforts to the metrical dimension of time, using ideas and terms finding their origin in Oliver Heaviside. The dimension of space is primarily treated only in terms of a velocity, that is, as space – time. In his development of the Faraday concepts and inductance & capacitance the dimension of space is considered on its own, but to a limited extent. It seems that we just simply cannot separate space from the velocity of light. (Break more to follow)

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