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  • Sputins
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    Translation of the Russian Paper?

    Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
    If you study the translation of the Russian paper that Dollard cites, that's pretty much what they describe. At least that's the theory...
    Ok, do you have a link or could you post a copy of the translated Russian paper? (I used a link posted somewhere previously on this thread and it just sent me around in circles, & was unable to download it)..

    I myself may experiment soon with the capacitance variation over time concept.. I think Eric Dollard said in a previous post here, that changing inductance in relation to time destroyed energy, while changing capacitance in relation to time, created energy..?

    Never-the-less something unusual, seems to be going on here.

    Cheers.

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  • LtBolo
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    Originally posted by vrand View Post
    If it so easy, why has nobody been able to reproduce the Don Smith or Eric Dollard devices over the past 20 - 30 years?
    Can't say about Don Smith. He's so random it's hard to tell what he's really saying half the time.

    As for Dollard, I think people have, although most of what I see appears to be wrong based on what I've been trying to explain. I think the WITTS device may be exactly this. They won't give details, however, for their own reasons.

    Jim Murray's device is fully documented in his patent, and he seems to want someone to run with it, yet I don't see anybody doing so.

    I think Chris Carson's device is precisely the same as the Russian paper, done with capacitance. The problem of capacitance is you have to get north of 10kv to get any meaningful power, given small changes in C. I think it is the harder way to do this.


    Our next step will be to build a mechanically variable inductive device. The key will be to get high permeability core material to get the inductance high and still keep the coil resistance low. Spin the core at 2x the effective resonant frequency of the tank, and watch it go.

    If you study the translation of the Russian paper that Dollard cites, that's pretty much what they describe. At least that's the theory...

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  • LtBolo
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    Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
    very well stated, it would be worth the time and effort to develop effective parameter changing technologies in and of themselves, the rest will fall into place.
    I think that is exactly what needs to happen. If you can reliably and efficiently control capacitance and/or inductance, this becomes comparatively simple.

    Here is a bit of glimpse of what I was describing in my previous post.

    PARM1.JPG: Yellow trace is primary excitation through a 33ohm resistor. Primary is right on the edge of saturation and the ring frequency changes with the level of saturation. This is parameter variation causing non-linear oscillations.

    PARM2.JPG: Shifting the primary excitation to allow it to come a bit more out of saturation. Notice the ring frequency drops considerably.

    PARM3.JPG: Primary excitation is shifted until it is coming almost completely out of saturation. Ring frequency is far lower still. Notice that a 3v swing on the primary produces a 2v move on the secondary.

    DUTY.JPG: Since the parametric boost is related to the current, I start reducing the pulse duty cycle to bring the trailing edge of the pulse (the inductance increase) back into the turn-on ring where there is some current to play with. Notice that the spike is now about 2.5v.

    PULSE.JPG: Here I have pulled the trailing edge all the way back to the first saturated ring. I have also reduced the excitation voltage to about 2v, but the output pulse is now up to nearly 10v.

    TRANSFORMER.JPG: Same setup and frequency at a 50% duty, not saturated, no parameter change.

    Conclusions: Not sure, really. The spike at the parameter change in PULSE.JPG is very energetic, and this is where the Russian paper claims the excess energy is. I haven't done a power comparison between it and normal transformer behavior, so I can't say that there is anything extra there, but it does look interesting.
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  • vrand
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    Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
    Is it really so hard?
    If it so easy, why has nobody been able to reproduce the Don Smith or Eric Dollard devices over the past 20 - 30 years?

    Hello Eric Dollard, if you are out there, can you please comment on how you converted the WWII Power Converter to "self sustains" your car? Schematic & Parts List? Photos? Videos?

    I have a device, built for the Army Air Corps during World War 2, A/N number PP-18/AR Power Converter, which self-sustains the electrical system in my car. It uses the same theory of operation as Chris’s device but involves a different mechanical implementation utilizing a vibrator, several capacitors and 12V and 24V batteries that are connected in parallel through the device, rendering them as one.
    Can you describe Chris's device? Schematic & Parts List? Photos? Videos?

    "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

    Regards

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  • Armagdn03
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    Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
    On Naudin's Parametric Power Conversion pages, where Fred Epps quotes from the English version of 1934 Russian paper, what they describe really doesn't seem too difficult. The problem is that folks may not be paying close attention to what is actually said, and therefore what is required.

    In short, increase inductance in a resonant circuit at the peak of magnetic energy, and remove the increase at the peak of electrostatic energy. The change in inductance increases the energy in the coil by 1/2dLi^2. If the increase is greater than the losses of 1/2Ri^2(T/2), then the oscillations increase in intensity. Simple.

    The problem arises where folks are trying to use saturated transformers to vary L, and in doing so, almost universally change L in the wrong direction at the wrong time. I think it can be done solid state, but it will be far more challenging.

    Naudin's example, VARIND4 seems marginal because of the very low delta L and high R in the coil. It's also not clear to me that he is varying the inductance at the right times or by the amounts claimed. Meaning...the experiment proves almost nothing.

    In our lab here, we made a small transformer with a nanoperm core. The secondary is ~8H at rest and ~200mH at saturation. By using a small DC bias to put it just under saturation, and then pulsing into saturation, we were able to demonstration a varying resonance frequency at turn on and turn off...something absolutely key to testing the theory. By playing with the turn off time, we were able to increase the inductance at a low point of one of the rings from the turn on...in essence at a current peak. The result was a considerably larger spike than I had seen from normal ringing. I think that is the effect that must be harnessed.

    I am of the conclusion that it will be much easier mechanically, at least at first, than solid state, so that is the direction we are going.

    Another thought: If you haven't seen the WITTS generator, take a look at it. I am increasingly convinced that it is nothing more than synchronous parameter variation. If you put two large coils in opposition, and rotated a section of core material to make and break a central magnetic path, when the path is broken, the inductors in direct opposition behave like air cores, but when the path is made, they no longer oppose and behave like iron core inductors. With a coil as big as what is there, the inductance could easily be swinging whole henries.

    I think the additional 2 coils on the top and bottom are likely there to regulate the power. Per the Russian article, this thing needs regulation to keep from eating itself.

    Another thought: In the article, they talk about using neon lamps for loads. The importance is that those lamps provide no load until the voltage gets above several hundred volts. Given that the excess power is a function of i^2, until the current gets high enough, you can't take anything out. You load it wrong...you get nothing out.

    Final thought: Eric Dollard said something about this technology being suited to higher power outputs. Given that it is related to i^2, that makes perfect sense.
    very well stated, it would be worth the time and effort to develop effective parameter changing technologies in and of themselves, the rest will fall into place.

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  • LtBolo
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    I messed with that a bit and didn't see any parameter change. It would be nice if it worked though. Maybe I should revisit.

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  • SuperCaviTationIstic
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    i started a thread about using a toroid wound both toroidally and polarally.... using one of the windings for a DC magnetic amplifier and the other for AC.

    if you varied the DC in relation to the AC you'd have a very nice parametric setup

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  • LtBolo
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    Is it really so hard?

    On Naudin's Parametric Power Conversion pages, where Fred Epps quotes from the English version of 1934 Russian paper, what they describe really doesn't seem too difficult. The problem is that folks may not be paying close attention to what is actually said, and therefore what is required.

    In short, increase inductance in a resonant circuit at the peak of magnetic energy, and remove the increase at the peak of electrostatic energy. The change in inductance increases the energy in the coil by 1/2dLi^2. If the increase is greater than the losses of 1/2Ri^2(T/2), then the oscillations increase in intensity. Simple.

    The problem arises where folks are trying to use saturated transformers to vary L, and in doing so, almost universally change L in the wrong direction at the wrong time. I think it can be done solid state, but it will be far more challenging.

    Naudin's example, VARIND4 seems marginal because of the very low delta L and high R in the coil. It's also not clear to me that he is varying the inductance at the right times or by the amounts claimed. Meaning...the experiment proves almost nothing.

    In our lab here, we made a small transformer with a nanoperm core. The secondary is ~8H at rest and ~200mH at saturation. By using a small DC bias to put it just under saturation, and then pulsing into saturation, we were able to demonstration a varying resonance frequency at turn on and turn off...something absolutely key to testing the theory. By playing with the turn off time, we were able to increase the inductance at a low point of one of the rings from the turn on...in essence at a current peak. The result was a considerably larger spike than I had seen from normal ringing. I think that is the effect that must be harnessed.

    I am of the conclusion that it will be much easier mechanically, at least at first, than solid state, so that is the direction we are going.

    Another thought: If you haven't seen the WITTS generator, take a look at it. I am increasingly convinced that it is nothing more than synchronous parameter variation. If you put two large coils in opposition, and rotated a section of core material to make and break a central magnetic path, when the path is broken, the inductors in direct opposition behave like air cores, but when the path is made, they no longer oppose and behave like iron core inductors. With a coil as big as what is there, the inductance could easily be swinging whole henries.

    I think the additional 2 coils on the top and bottom are likely there to regulate the power. Per the Russian article, this thing needs regulation to keep from eating itself.

    Another thought: In the article, they talk about using neon lamps for loads. The importance is that those lamps provide no load until the voltage gets above several hundred volts. Given that the excess power is a function of i^2, until the current gets high enough, you can't take anything out. You load it wrong...you get nothing out.

    Final thought: Eric Dollard said something about this technology being suited to higher power outputs. Given that it is related to i^2, that makes perfect sense.

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  • vrand
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    Originally posted by handyandy View Post
    It looks to me that Eric Dollard is continuing work at Bolinas CA and has a website documenting it here: Home :: AMERICAN MARCONI FOUNDATION. It also looks like he's attempting to make his publications available to the public. It seems to me that there's several approaches depending on the persons involved.

    In researching Eric Dollards power converter I came across a couple of voltage regulators manufactured by General Radio (WWII era) that claimed to be 90-110% correction (Fair Radio Sales = General Radio Voltage Regulator 1582A or 1582A-AL2) That's not too shabby. I can't afford the $200+ price tag at the moment. It looks to do with power factor correction and mil-spec field radio communications of which I know little about.

    It would be great to have Eric Dollard and Hector Peres in the same room. I think they both say the same thing but in different ways. RE=RF=COP>1

    Regards,
    Andy
    Thank you for the heads up on Eric Dollard & the General Radio Voltage Regulators

    https://www.fairradio.com/catalog.ph...=20&submit.y=1
    GR-1582A - GENERAL RADIO 1582A VOLTAGE REGULATOR, automatically compensates for AC Line voltage fluctuations; output 115 VAC +/-10%; 7.4x19x16, 132 lbs sh. 85 amps, 90-110% correction, $275.00 each

    GR1582A-AL2 - GENERAL RADIO VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 42.5 A, 82-124% correction
    $265.00 each

    Next question is how to convert one of these to power out > power in?

    - Anyone have a clue?
    - Is there a schematic or parts list?

    Regards

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  • handyandy
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    It looks to me that Eric Dollard is continuing work at Bolinas CA and has a website documenting it here: Home :: AMERICAN MARCONI FOUNDATION. It also looks like he's attempting to make his publications available to the public. It seems to me that there's several approaches depending on the persons involved.

    In researching Eric Dollards power converter I came across a couple of voltage regulators manufactured by General Radio (WWII era) that claimed to be 90-110% correction (Fair Radio Sales = General Radio Voltage Regulator 1582A or 1582A-AL2) That's not too shabby. I can't afford the $200+ price tag at the moment. It looks to do with power factor correction and mil-spec field radio communications of which I know little about.

    It would be great to have Eric Dollard and Hector Peres in the same room. I think they both say the same thing but in different ways. RE=RF=COP>1

    Regards,
    Andy

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  • elias
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    Originally posted by h2ocommuter View Post
    BTW:
    I trust everybody has heard the news about the Tesla motorcar co. being able to manufactur the sedan in San Jose. Because Tayota is joining and becomming a partner.

    I hope they get the price down to a reasonable level.
    Well, just want to correct that I feel sorry for these people in a positive sense, in a sense of love, how come they are so disturbed that have committed not to share what they know with their fellow human beings, if they really have the knowledge.

    But, the good news is, the knowledge is going to become popular as soon as we look at the disaster oil has made in the Atlantic Ocean and learn a lesson, to move further away from fossil fuels. And yes the result would be electric cars getting commonplace, that will suck more related technology with it, meaning battery technology and electric motor technology, and electric energy recycling technology, and of course better solutions for battery charging.

    There is going to be more good news ...

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  • baroutologos
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    We have made enough cry-calls to those knowleadgeable of OU secrets with no result as always.

    We all here regard ourselves as researchers.
    Research means doing primary investigation and replication of alleged setups and find out effects.

    So far research from thousands of people yields absolutely no result in this field.

    Specifically, Don Smith's plans have been successfully replicated by noone exept Don Smith, and that's because he says so.

    Tesla technologies have not shown any sign of energy surplus exept people who claim that it does as Eric Dollard and the like.

    ...

    My estimate is that those people never have experienced overunity in their setups as clever as they may be.
    If they have, reason says that oil cartels and paid hitters would have shut their mouths by one way or another and we would not know today that they did actually (as we do not know many things)

    The enstablishment would not take a risk ( i would not take if i had enstablishment's interests in stake) at letting lose those guys wondering around and shouting we know the OU secret but we won't tell because we are been threatened. Simple things.

    On the contrary, one dedicated scientist and experimentalist, as soon as he gets an idea how to create OU he will share it with community and chase glory instead of immediate monetary rewards that has any reason to believe they won't come eventually.

    The facts are simple and speak for themselves. Occam's razor fits nicely in this situation IMO.

    ...
    We should look ourselves and ask in truth. Are we reasearchers or obsessed individuals searching for the solution to our life's problems?
    Last edited by baroutologos; 05-24-2010, 07:28 AM.

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  • h2ocommuter
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    Willing to give it all?

    Originally posted by elias View Post
    I think sometimes that some people like to get famous ... No Details ... It's a shame, If Chris Carson Died because of making a generator that works by Eric Dollard's Principles, there is no excuse for not sharing what he did, as not sharing it means that he died in vain. I am sorry for these people.
    Elias, I am so going to agree with you. I do not want to die in vain.

    I find it very disturbing though that mostly everyone except paul Pantone has hidden just a little bit so others would not be able to accomplish this suggested task. And they have imprisoned him. How disgracefull!

    Think, Soldures, Our founding fathers, certain leaders in our communities, firefighters would never think twice about giving there life for our familys ,friends, or even our country. This could be the silver bullet people are scared of eating.
    It could be greed or other things but it boils down to conviction to a higher cause.

    We will all be dust in a very short time. Tesla has only been gone what 60 years ? That seems like forever. Also remember too that when he was striped of funding and basterdised he did not devulge much after that, His heart was turned and soured. That was over 100 years ago. I would much rather go to sleep then let my anger and resentment consume these wonderful gifts.
    If we don't share what we have with others, The wonderfull gifts of knowlege will be lost for maybe all time!

    That is just not worthy of this study, or the magic that it really is!

    BTW:
    I trust everybody has heard the news about the Tesla motorcar co. being able to manufactur the sedan in San Jose. Because Tayota is joining and becomming a partner.

    I hope they get the price down to a reasonable level.

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  • elias
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    I think sometimes that some people like to get famous ... No Details ... It's a shame, If Chris Carson Died because of making a generator that works by Eric Dollard's Principles, there is no excuse for not sharing what he did, as not sharing it means that he died in vain. I am sorry for these people.

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  • vrand
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Thank you. Yes,correct parametric resonance is working like a pump.However mentioned method with changed capacitance in time is hard to realise (need a shutter to screen heat source) . Much easier is to change inductance with synchronization of LC circuit state (at correct moment) - think about it. Like a pump or siphon.Don Smith is telling this all the time - parametric oscillation you must have to extract free energy from ambient source.
    Yeah, it would be great if someone could reproduce Don Smiths design after 20 yrs, so we all can power our homes and cars

    To date no one has done this. Eric Dollard has his power unit (WWII Army generator) to power his house and radios and is not talking about how he did it.

    Don Smiths house is still connected to the local electric grid, so he is not using his invention.

    A lot of info still missing in order for researchers to reproduce these inventions.

    Regards

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