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  • Originally posted by Web000x View Post
    It seems to me that making a rotating variable capacitance device such as Chris Carson's design might prove to be easier and provide a more extreme variation in Farads with respect to time thus a bigger window of reactance with respect to time. But that is all just speculation on my part.
    I'm not so sure. A mechanical cap is likely to have capacitance in the picofarad range...I saw mention that Chris Carson's was 1000pf. With that small of a capacitance to vary, the voltages to get meaningful power will have to be very high, probably on the order of 10s of kilovolts.

    Inductance can be varied in whole henries without too much trouble. At that level you could produce meaningful power with single digit amps.

    That said, I think the Russian paper talked about doing it both ways.

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    • why not use a little buzzer/vibrator to flutter a capacitor plate, or move a core in and out of a coil?

      anyone ever heard of an Electrostatic Wurlizer Organ? it flutters a variable capacitor with air to the frequency of the notes, which then synthesizes current for a speaker at the right frequency

      Wurlizer Electrostatic Organs By Eric Larson

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      • SuperCaviTationIstic has a point there.
        Eric pointed that out himself :

        It uses the same theory of operation as Chris’s device but involves a different mechanical implementation utilizing a vibrator, several capacitors and 12V and 24V batteries that are connected in parallel through the device, rendering them as one.

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        • Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
          I wouldn't be too quick to judge others, sir. I have had conversations with their spokesman, and they have a decades long history of being abused by those that don't want the tech out. I might be a bit skittish too, if I were them.
          Great to hear that you communicated with them. Lets hope they will allow others to reproduce there wonderful inventions!

          Which is beside the point. The point I was making is that I think their large generator is a variation on this same theme. It was first developed in the late 80s, right around the same time that Dollard published much of his relevant work, and around the same time that Murray's patent was granted.
          It is great that you might be able to figure it out and confirm this wonderful technology. I would be interested in your findings

          Why do you say that he didn't?
          I miss read your writing. The only thing I could find on Google on Jim Murray was a Gravity Torque Amplifier. Is that the correct man?

          Directory:Inventors - PESWiki
          [Murray, Jim] - Torque amplifier Gravitational apparatus

          Does he have photos or a video of his invention? Patent #?

          Actually the entire subject of the Russian paper is exactly that....a discussion of several devices that worked and the theory behind them. Complete with pictures and descriptions of the devices, as well as discussions about performance. Given that this is the paper that Dollard mentioned that described the same math that he used, and given that PHI1.62 has graciously posted a link to an English translation of a later version of the same data, you might consider studying it. I found it quite enlightening.
          Thank you for the info

          I will study it further.

          Regards

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          • Originally posted by vrand View Post
            It is great that you might be able to figure it out and confirm this wonderful technology. I would be interested in your findings
            I have a pretty good idea what may be going on. We'll see.


            Originally posted by vrand View Post
            I miss read your writing. The only thing I could find on Google on Jim Murray was a Gravity Torque Amplifier. Is that the correct man?
            Regards
            It may be the same guy, buy not the same invention.

            Here is the patent for his alternator. The patent itself talks about efficiencies approaching 100%, but he has said in other places that it was well beyond 100%. I suspect that the patent was written to get past the patent office, who is highly resistant to overunity claims.

            Alternator having improved efficiency - Google Patent Search

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            • Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
              I have a pretty good idea what may be going on. We'll see.




              It may be the same guy, buy not the same invention.

              Here is the patent for his alternator. The patent itself talks about efficiencies approaching 100%, but he has said in other places that it was well beyond 100%. I suspect that the patent was written to get past the patent office, who is highly resistant to overunity claims.

              Alternator having improved efficiency - Google Patent Search
              Thank you for the patent info

              Here is some Googled info on Jim Murray:
              A SCIENTIFIC KEY
              Device #4: Another gentleman by the name of James F. Murray, released in his patent # 4,780,632 entitled "Alternator Having Improved Efficiency" in 1987, a device of his invention which looks a little strange and leads one to wonder why someone would go to the trouble of designing just another alternator. Just how many ways can one design an alternator? The patent is of course interesting from an engineering point of view, and while inclusive of all claims, leaves the reader with the feeling of waiting for the second shoe to drop.

              The most important document is a report that Jim Murray wrote in 1987 that explains the patent in terms of functionality.

              In order to patent his device and to distance himself from any ideas of over-unity, Jim Murray simply patented the design of the alternator without so much as a hint of over-unity. His paper of course does discuss this at length. The paper that Jim Murray wrote is essential to the full understanding of the device.

              The only drawback of his device is that it is expensive to build with a good deal of CNC machine effort and much Dollars. However, from the study of this paper, it is an excellent exercise is looking for the key. It is hard to see and requires much insight and thought. It is there and it is very interesting.
              I could not find Jim Murray's 1987 Report? Do you have the url?

              Maybe its economical to build 23 years later?

              Regards

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              • Originally posted by vrand View Post
                I could not find Jim Murray's 1987 Report? Do you have the url?

                Maybe its economical to build 23 years later?
                I do not...but certainly wish I did.

                Economy? Lemme see...free energy for as long as the device operates * your power bill every month. I think that it would be plenty economical even if it costs thousands of dollars to manufacture...which it wouldn't. The only part that is troublesome is the rotor, and purchased in volume I can't imagine that costing more than a couple hundred bucks.

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                • Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
                  I do not...but certainly wish I did.

                  Economy? Lemme see...free energy for as long as the device operates * your power bill every month. I think that it would be plenty economical even if it costs thousands of dollars to manufacture...which it wouldn't. The only part that is troublesome is the rotor, and purchased in volume I can't imagine that costing more than a couple hundred bucks.
                  Yeah, that Report was to explain how the device worked in over unity, as his patent does not mention free energy output.

                  Is there any description out on the Internet on how his alternator worked?

                  Any photos of a working unit? Power in vs Power out?

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                  • Maybe in Borderland Research Journal?

                    Hi Folks,

                    Form the last couple of posts it occured to me years ago somewhere I saw a reference to a Borderland Research Journal article in which James Murray wrote about new concepts in power generation (I do not know its content) and searched for it, see here:
                    Journals & Newsletters - Journal of Borderland Research - Vol. 46, No. 02 | Borderland Sciences Research Catalog (Powered by CubeCart)

                    If someone happens to have that copy of that journal, he could have a look at it.

                    Also, Murray has a British patent (in 1979) on a rotary transformer setup, it is GB2013043, Transforming generator, maybe you are not yet aware of.
                    You can see it here:
                    espacenet — Bibliographic data

                    rgds, Gyula

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                    • Originally posted by gyula View Post
                      Hi Folks,

                      Form the last couple of posts it occured to me years ago somewhere I saw a reference to a Borderland Research Journal article in which James Murray wrote about new concepts in power generation (I do not know its content) and searched for it, see here:
                      Journals & Newsletters - Journal of Borderland Research - Vol. 46, No. 02 | Borderland Sciences Research Catalog (Powered by CubeCart)

                      If someone happens to have that copy of that journal, he could have a look at it.

                      Also, Murray has a British patent (in 1979) on a rotary transformer setup, it is GB2013043, Transforming generator, maybe you are not yet aware of.
                      You can see it here:
                      espacenet — Bibliographic data

                      rgds, Gyula
                      Thank you for the info

                      If Jim Murray is still alive maybe someone can joint venture with him to develop his technology.

                      Developing/reproducing any technology is a hit or miss venture. If one of the 100's of parts of the invention is incorrect the total experiment can be a failure. A researcher can even have most of the parts and pieces, made from the original inventor, and it still does not guarantee that someone will be able to put it all together to make a working unit.

                      Stan Meyer left tons of parts and notes, but 15 years later researchers can not make a working unit. EV Gray also left parts, some destined for the dump, 20 years later researchers can not make a working unit.

                      Having a "live" inventor that is willing to share and develop his invention is a good start for success. If the inventor does not have a working prototype then one will need to be built. Just building the prototype can take years and $millions and most of the time ends in failure.

                      The best way for a successful reproduction of an invention is if the inventor already has "a working prototype" then its much more easier for other researchers to reproduce the inventors claims.

                      Tesla, the inventor of the radio, our AC electrical system, invented hundreds of other applications, made it possible for thousands of other researchers to reproduce his inventions.

                      Regards

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                      • Thanks for the photos Dr. Lindemann. I had seen photos somewhere online of the generator but didn't understand what I was looking at. I have a better feeling for it now. While looking I found this: IceStuff.com: Electrostatic Generator 1961 United States Patent a patent for an electrostatic generator and some theory behind it.

                        Regards,
                        Andy

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                        • Thomas J. Brown's 6 videos on Vimeo.com

                          Greetings all,
                          FYI: Thomas J. Brown of BSRF has posted 6 videos on vimeo.com 12 days ago, 5 of which are new to me. Two of the videos have Eric Dollard, one which we are all likely familiar with (Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity) and the other on the Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator.
                          I've learned quite a bit from reading others posts and it has helped guide me in my research, so I want to share anything that I feel would benefit or be of interest to the group. I know someone posted a link to the LMWO video, but it wasn't functioning at the times I tried to access it, it seemed that all of BSRF videos were pulled off Vimeo. I'm very thankful Thomas has decided to share these videos with everyone and hope he uploads some more!
                          I've purchased every book Eric Dollard has written that I can get my hands on as well as everything by Gerry Vassilatos I've seen thus far, and would like to see every video these gentlemen have done that I can possibly find.

                          Thomas Joseph Brown's videos on Vimeo

                          And Eric, thanks for all you've shared with the community, it must be tough to have all your work destroyed, twice. I cannot comprehend what you have had to go through... Please don't give up, I truly hope to see some more posts from you! I was very pleased that you have joined the conversation!

                          Peter, thank you for all you do to keep things rolling here! I'm glad this much information has survived the past 2 decades, hope to see more good info surface, the way things are going, we will truly need this sooner than later! Those pictures you posted were great.

                          Kind Regards,
                          Mike

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                          • Eric Dollard Document Collection

                            There's a "Eric Dollard Document Collection" currently at some torrent sites.

                            Google for "eric dollard document collection torrent"

                            It appears the one from demonoid of about 140 MB works.

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                            • Thanks for the links!

                              Originally posted by Lambda View Post
                              Greetings all,
                              FYI: Thomas J. Brown of BSRF has posted 6 videos on vimeo.com 12 days ago, 5 of which are new to me. Two of the videos have Eric Dollard, one which we are all likely familiar with (Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity) and the other on the Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator.
                              I've learned quite a bit from reading others posts and it has helped guide me in my research, so I want to share anything that I feel would benefit or be of interest to the group. I know someone posted a link to the LMWO video, but it wasn't functioning at the times I tried to access it, it seemed that all of BSRF videos were pulled off Vimeo. I'm very thankful Thomas has decided to share these videos with everyone and hope he uploads some more!
                              I've purchased every book Eric Dollard has written that I can get my hands on as well as everything by Gerry Vassilatos I've seen thus far, and would like to see every video these gentlemen have done that I can possibly find.

                              Thomas Joseph Brown's videos on Vimeo

                              Kind Regards,
                              Mike
                              @Lambda (Mike)

                              Thanks a bunch for the Vimeo Link.. I have downloaded the MWO video with Eric and am downloading the others too.. Great stuff, love it! I share your attitude toward this material..!

                              @ Lamare thanks for that too.
                              More people are putting Erics work up, his work's back in fashion! I have two MP3 audio files, one is "Principals of Wireless Power", which is has Eric giving a talk on his Paper by the same title. The other audio file is called "Alternating (i think) Electric Waves". Audio only, no video, I have listened to each of them many, many times over! I think people here would like to hear them too, so I will post them somewhere soon. Maybe the torrent also includes these? (I know who may have put them up)?
                              I'll check the torrent out, if not I will make them avaliable for all.

                              @LtBolo Thanks for the Russian translated Document info from Phi1.62 It downloaded ok this time! I don't know how I missed it.

                              @Phi1.62 How the heck do you find all of this stuff!? Amazing!

                              @Raui - Fantastic work with the collection of study material!



                              Cheers all.
                              Last edited by Sputins; 06-02-2010, 03:06 AM.
                              "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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                              • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
                                @ Lamare thanks for that too.
                                More people are putting Erics work up, his work's back in fashion! I have two MP3 audio files, one is "Principals of Wireless Power", which is has Eric giving a talk on his Paper by the same title. The other audio file is called "Alternating (i think) Electric Waves". Audio only, no video, I have listened to each of them many, many times over! I think people here would like to hear them too, so I will post them somewhere soon. Maybe the torrent also includes these? (I know who may have put them up)?
                                I'll check the torrent out, if not I will make them avaliable for all.
                                I downloaded the torrent that Lamare directed us to. There was no audio; just a bunch of pdfs.

                                Please do post the audio files. I googled "Principles of Wireless Power" and did not get any results. I look forward to your posting of such material.

                                I love listening to Eric explain his views of electricy. He seems to pick up exactly where my teachers from school left off.

                                Eric Dollard is a genius and needs more attention. Everybody seems to be obsessed with John Bedini and Tom Bearden, but these two are too ambiguous to produce real world results. Eric has put his math down in written books available from BSRF. I think his books are the key to free energy when the math written in these books is applied to real world devices.

                                Dave

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