Peter, whatever happened with Eric P. Dollard?

[LtBolo]

@Pinwheel

It was our own design, based strictly on finding the most convenient method to alter inductance synchronously.

The first major revelation was that it took a *decrease* in inductance to cause an *increase* in current. Many had stated that it was an *increase* of inductance for an *increase* in current. Of course for a given amount of energy, that is exactly what you would expect...current must go up if inductance goes down. Obviously there must be some gain there, or the system would not ramp up to high power levels.

The second major revelation was that mechanically reducing inductance takes work, and work isn't your friend. From what we could tell, we were heading toward unity at best.

I had actually dug through the Russian document at the time and had already concluded that their motor was loading like ours. They were not using a ferrous core, so my guess is the parameter change mechanism is a magnetic field in the rotor created by eddy currents. Aluminum simply wouldn't provide enough of a permeability change to alter the inductance much. The aluminum would be very happy to oppose the magnetic field in the inductors via it's own field though. I don't have proof of that, but their statement that they were unable to go to higher current due to the motor limitation was a big clue. Magnetic damping gets bad fast.

It's clear that synchronous parameter change can be used to produce energy, and it may even be possible to do it without an offsetting bit of mechanical work...however...I suspect that it will require parameter change in some kind of light speed scenario. Meaning that the real answer to power synthesis is not directly in parameter change, but is in some kind of quadrant manipulation that shifts the action/reaction to 90 or 0 degrees instead of 180.

Resonant solenoids are standing wave devices where the operating frequency is inherently related to speed of light (if correctly tuned), whereas LC resonances are not necessarily so. As such, I suspect that the answer will not be found in the simple LC, but in the coil. I feel that the C implicit in the coil is not symmetrical, and that the asymmetry manifests increasingly as the standing wave amplitude increases. That may provide the parameter change in a quadrant friendly way, and if that is true, the coil may exhibit gain by parameter change without any external intervention other than normal excitation. Since the coil would be gaining energy during a portion of the cycle, and giving it back during the other, it would have to be externally harnessed and would not have the potential for internal runaway. A dual coil arrangement would offer the possibility of a runaway, if it could be phased correctly.

It is my hope that EPD is moving in the direction of eventually reducing the theory to 'when A, B, and C are true, reaction-less energy production D occurs'. My gut tells me the math will bear that out, but applications are our focus here, not theory.

[lamare]

Hi all,

I managed to disprove Einstein's relativity theory once and for all:
Tuks DrippingPedia : Ruins 96 Years Einstein Relativity

Last week the newspapers were filled with the discovery of "impossible" particles traveling faster than the speed of light. A month ago an "impossible" star was discovered and earlier the Pioneer space probes also refused to adhere to the law. This way, the scientific establishment will slowly but surely be forced to return to reality, the reality of the existence of a real, physical ether with fluid-like properties. The inevitable result of that will be that Einstein's relativity theory will go down in the history books as one of the biggest fallacies ever brought forth by science. In the future they will look back to relativity with equal disbelief as to the "Earth is flat" concept. The relativity theory not only goes against common sense, as Tesla already said in 1932, a fundamental thinking error has been made by Maxwell in his equations. This eventually lead to the erroneous relativity theory, as is proven in this article. It is therefore no exaggeration to state that the scientific establishment is going to have a religious experience.

This article has been published in Dutch on a few websites and an interview with me was published in a regional newspaper read by about 300.000 people about this.

Of course I referred to Eric's work in the article and I refer to this forum as "peer review"

Hopefully, the next stop will be the Keiser Report on RT:
Twitter

Keeping my fingers crossed...

Update: Now also posted on BeforeItsNews:
Before It's News - Electrical Engineer disproves Einsteins Relativity Theory

Please don't hesitate to comment there and may be return a couple of times (or use the F5 button) to increase popularity

[t-rex]

Dimensional Relations of Volts and Amperes in Time and Space

Dimensional Relations of Volts and Amperes in Time and Space

We have heretofore firmly established a concept of the two fundamental laws of induction, Faraday’s law of electro-magnetic induction and Maxwell’s law of magneto-dielectric induction. 
Electro-motive force E is a magnetic reactance to a change in the net quantity of magnetic induction, displacement current I is a dielectric suceptance to a change in the net quantity of dielectric induction. E in Volts and I in Amperes are the result of inductive variation with respect to TIME.

However, also in the same units of volts and amperes exist the electrostatic potential, e in Volts, and the magneto-motive force (M.M.F.), i in Amperes. This situation does not recommend itself.

The E.M.F. E and the M.M.F. i have a conjugate relation thru the metallic structure of the electric system. The displacement I and the electro-static potential e have a conjugate relation within the dielectric structure of the electric system. E and i in the metal, e and I in the insulator. This suggests the electric activity E times i and another activity e times I, both in Watts. Conversely, electrical activities of E times I, as well as e times i suggest themselves. Hence we have arrived at a four polar form of electrical activity. Four distinct wattages. These represent the four terms of the “Telegraph Equation” of Oliver Heaviside in their primordial form.

The reactance E.M.F., E, via the dimension of time, T’, gives rise to an electro-static potential, e, across the dimension of space, l. In conjugate form the suceptance displacement, I, via the dimension of time, T”, gives rise to a M.M.E., i, across the dimension of space, l. It may be said that E & I are the cause, where e & i are the effect, chicken or egg.

The metallic-dielectric geometric structure bounding the electric field of induction engenders the mechanical forces developed by this bounded field. Where E and I are strictly electric forces, e and i give rise to mechanical forces upon physical matter thru the dimension of SPACE. i and e are the seat of magnetic forces pushing the metallic and of dielectric force pulling the metallic. i is a pushing force, e is a pulling force.

How does the dimension of space enter into e and i, both spawned of the dimension of time? From time to space, but Volts and Amperes in both. This is a problem yet to be solved, a dimensional complication. e and i are not complete but are misrepresentations. They are figments of time. Forces due to e an i are more properly expressed as the dielectric gradient, Volts per centimeter and the magnetic gradient, Amperes per centimeter. e over l gives d the dielectric, and i over l gives m, the magnetic. d is the dielectric force, m is the magnetic force, of the dielectric field Psi in Coulombs and the magnetic field of Phi in Webers respectively.

Hence we have arrived at a pair of new dimensional relations:

1 Delectric force, d
Volts, e, per c.m., l.
Or Weber per centimeter – second.

2 Magnetic force, m
Amperes, i, per c.m., l.
Or
Coulombs per centimeter – second.

The dimension of time and its relation to space is evidenced by these dimensional expressions. Here a condition exists where dielectric force is derived magnetically, and magnetic induction is derived dielectrically, both thru the dimension of time. However, we are not interested in time here, we are interested in only space. It seems like we are stuck in a loop.

The way out is to utilize the new pair of dimensional relations, that is
d the dielectric gradient
and
m the magnetic gradient
as primary dimensional relationships.

Effort will be made along the way to express these relations in an alternate expression, thru the concept of inductance and capacitance.

If this pair, d and m, both with no one’s name, or real definition, are taken as primary dimensional relations then the electro-static potential e is derived as a secondary relation to d. Likewise the M.M.E. i is derived as a secondary relation to m. It is then
e equals the product of d and c.m.
Volt – centimeter per centimeter
And
i equals the product of m and c.m.
Ampere – centimeter per centimeter
These dimensional relations give rise to centimeter per centimeter. What can we make of this, a space scalar. This dimensional condition represents a SPACE INTEGRAL. Integration, as it is known, is derived from the Newton – Liebnitz concepts and represents the inverse of differentiation. This application to c.m. per c.m. is called the line integral of d or m. Integration is best avoided.

What we are doing is this; the electric forces dimensionally are in PER C.M., that is, in a counter-spatial form. In the integration, the product of the counterspace span in per c.m. is multiplied by spatial distance of the span. Per c.m. time c.m. the product of counterspace and space results in a dimensional cancellation, or numeric. This is called a SPACE SCALAR condition. It is dimensionless but posesses an “angle.”

In conclusion, the force exists in a counter-spatial gradient, where as the potential, or M.M.E., exist in a spatial distance. The potential e is the integral of the force d, and the M.M.E. i is the integral of the force M. Read the introductory chapters of Heaviside’s “E.M. Theory, volume one.”

73 DE N6KPH

[vrand]

Dimensional Relations of Volts and Amperes in Time and Space


In conclusion, the force exists in a counter-spatial gradient, where as the potential, or M.M.E., exist in a spatial distance. The potential e is the integral of the force d, and the M.M.E. i is the integral of the force M. Read the introductory chapters of Heaviside’s “E.M. Theory, volume one.”

73 DE N6KPH

Hi Eric

Can you please suggest a simple experiment/device where we can build a free energy device to power our homes and cars? Around 10 kw power output?

Cheers Mike

[vrand]

Hi Eric

Can you please suggest a simple experiment/device where we can build a free energy device to power our homes and cars? Around 10 kw power output?

Cheers Mike

Here is Eric's reply on his Yahoo egroup n6kph forum:
n6kph : N6KPH

Thank you Eric

Cheers Mike




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

From: Eric Dollard
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:55 PM
To: n6kph@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [n6kph] Response to the forum


Santa Barbara Rotary Parametric Transformer, tested gave transformation
ratio, power it to power out, of 108% +or- 5% error of measurement. It
works, see video.

No one yet on how many Plancks constitute a Watt-second-second. Where is
an understandable quantity of this dimensional relation? Look at laser
light on white surface, notice all the tiny little Plancks? Well?

I have a D.C. transmission line, the conductors are 2 inches in
diameter, spacing is 18 feet. How many ounces of force are developed
upon a 600 foot span of this line, for the following;
1. 1000 ampere line current.
2. For 1000 KV line potential?
I am waiting.

Whoever answers these two basic questions will then possess knowledge
for discussion of energy related apparatus. The law of energy perpetuity
was invalidated at Santa Barbara. Free yourself from bondage.

There is an interposed relation between energy in and energy out, an
angle of hysteresis. Find a switchboard power factor meter and its
related wattmeter. Study them and make large models of them for study.
Read Steinmetz’s “Theory and Calculation of A.C.” book, chapter on
“Power and Double Frequency Quantities.” (cross product – “conjugate
product”, dot product, and also scalar product) Here math useful for
Phi, Psi to Planck unions.

Forget about f*ck*ng electrons. J.J. Thompson says that a hydrogen atom
has 1000 electrons, we say 1 electron, what do you know about them,
nothing. Go read and learn before parroting. Find Sir William Crookes’ work.

In general, whatever fragmentation is produced in forum is just fine.
I’m just “instigating the ants” to watch them swarm. N.F.G. frequency
will be in proportion to idiot factor. Some just can’t help being
idiots. Those who make equations and machines relevant to energy
synthesis more than make up for all the repetitive idiots. I’ll take
care of them with N.F.G. fun.

My interest in Russian paper is the equations, not the machines. It is
the compound differential forms. Use a damn Alexanderson Mag-amp, not
mechanical rotors, etc. Use harmonics of line frequency on the control
winding. Use a car alternator or other machine to generate them, not
solid state. Tune the control winding with a series condenser (watch for
high voltage)

As for oscillating solenoidal winding, read these;
1. Theory of Wireless Power - E.P. Dollard
2. Abnormal Voltages in Transformers, A.I.E.E. Proceedings or
Transactions – Boyajin and Bloom.

No velocity of light when coil oscillates. How many times must I repeat,
NO VELOCITY OF LIGHT. Read Tesla Colorado book, do the math on the
“extra coil.” Find that it is 1.8 times light. Read! Yes, harmonic
oscillations in coil windings generate parametric dielectric energy
storage co-efficients. Farads per second. Good path to follow.

See also, on aether, Gustav Le-Bon’s books, may be important. Also find
the Mendelev pre-hydrogen series periodic table. Report your findings on
the forum.

So get cranking…
Eric

[Pinwheel]

link to video?

/edit - is that the one Lindeman built?

[Pinwheel]

No one yet on how many Plancks constitute a Watt-second-second. Where is
an understandable quantity of this dimensional relation? Look at laser
light on white surface, notice all the tiny little Plancks? Well?

How many Plancks are in a Watt-second-second?

Well, a Planck per second is a joule. And a watt second is a joule...

Let me remind everybody that I would probably (likely) fail a high school math course if I were to take one... (not joking)

so... I'm left with 1 per second. Q/sec.

No?

I didn't do the laser part.

[LtBolo]

So it sounds to me like Mr. Dollard likes poking the hornets nest. Great fun. I don't hear any actionable intel here though.

I guess I qualify as one the idiots Eric. I'm not terribly smart and most of the math goes over my head. However I am quite gifted at taking real technology and producing real products that solve real problems. Been doing that for about 20 years now and have built a very nice life for myself and my employees. When your theories have been distilled to actionable technologies, I'd love to have the discussion on how that can become a benefit to humankind and a poke in the eye to the establishment.

In the meantime, I wish you all great success in the lab. Back to lurking.

[Pinwheel]

I have a D.C. transmission line, the conductors are 2 inches in
diameter, spacing is 18 feet. How many ounces of force are developed
upon a 600 foot span of this line, for the following;
1. 1000 ampere line current.
2. For 1000 KV line potential?
I am waiting.

This must mean forces between the conductors(?) and not F = Work/Distance(?)

[vrand]

link to video?

/edit - is that the one Lindeman built?

Here is the 1987 Santa Barbara Borderlands, 2 hrs long video:

Free Energy Research with Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann and Thomas Brown on Vimeo



The 15 min. AC Faraday disk design starts at 45 min. into the video. That was a Worlds first AC Faraday disk design. Maybe with modern NIB magnets, the AC voltage output would be higher than the estimated 0.5 volts?

Peter Lindemann wrote a little about that AC Faraday Disk on this thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post88061


Cheers Mike

[vrand]

So it sounds to me like Mr. Dollard likes poking the hornets nest. Great fun. I don't hear any actionable intel here though.

I guess I qualify as one the idiots Eric. I'm not terribly smart and most of the math goes over my head. However I am quite gifted at taking real technology and producing real products that solve real problems. Been doing that for about 20 years now and have built a very nice life for myself and my employees. When your theories have been distilled to actionable technologies, I'd love to have the discussion on how that can become a benefit to humankind and a poke in the eye to the establishment.

In the meantime, I wish you all great success in the lab. Back to lurking.

I hear your pain Bolo, I also have been there done that for +20 yrs.


Take a look at that unknown 1987 Borderlands video I posted above, as there are some real working devices that can not be explained away, that shows over unity energy output.


The one device that was super simple that caught my attention was the AC Faraday disk generator design that looked OU back then with low powered ferrite magnets. Just think what 4 or more Neodymium Magnet N50 2X2X1" magnets on that disk would generate in AC volts and amps.
N50*N52*N53 :: Neodymium*Magnets :: Industrial*Neodymium...
cPath_1_5 | Applied Magnets : Neodymium Block/Cube & Bar Magnets - discount wholesale prices.

Cheers Mike

[purelyconstructive]

Hello everyone! While I have not read all the posts in this thread, and am still working on reading all the recommended books, I thought I would drop by and lend what help I can. Here are some references related to Eric's response at the Yahoo! Group:

Gustave LeBon – The Evolution of Forces

Gustave LeBon – The Evolution of Matter

William Crookes – On Radiant Matter

I feel that it must always be kept in mind that the meaning of words is very dependent upon the context in which they arise. For example, one might come across many different definitions of the word "Radiant Matter/Energy" in their studies, much the same way as with the term "Aether". Some of these may be a sort of "catch-all" (much like how Eric pointed out with the word "Energy"), while others are defined as having very particular properties.

In regards to the idea of the term "Scalar" being inappropriate for what is essentially a longitudinal wave, I am in agreement that the name is potentially misleading as it usually describes only a magnitude with no direction. However, at the same time, I think some (e.g.: Dewey Larson) use it as a general description for an omnidirectional motion (much like a spherical, longitudinal wave).

Anyway, to continue on the works of Crookes, I have found this quote in a section on Caroline Thompson's Phi Wave Aether Theory website that might be of interest:

In about 1875, Crookes (1832-1919) started, as a side issue from his studies of the element thallium that he had just discovered, investigating why hot bodies seemed to weigh light. This led on to research into what he at first thought was "radiation pressure", but which later experiments, using vacua orders of magnitude better than any achieved before, seemed to show was the pressure of molecular beams which, at these low densities, have mean free paths as long as the dimensions of the containing vessel.* When he started his work, it was not even clear that gases consisted of particles!* By the end (1898), with much feedback from others, many of whom had seen his fantastic demonstrations at the Royal Society, he was able to focus molecular beams using curved sources, make them glow or cause phosphorescence using electric currents (presumably ionising them, only the idea had not yet been invented!), or bend a beam using a magnet.* His experiments must have been the essential foundation that led to the discovery of the electron, the invention of the cathode ray tube (sometimes known as the Crookes tube), the analysis of chemicals by mass spectroscopy, yet today he is almost unknown.* Crookes tried not to theorise as he was still finding out the facts, though of course he did come up with the occasional hypothesis to direct his research.* Whatever apparatus was needed, he had only to ask his master-glass-blower assistant, Mr Gimingham!

Did he find out why hot bodies weigh light?* Well, it's not air currents, but since heat can either attract or repel once you start putting your object in a vacuum I doubt if you can generalise.* The "apparent lawlessness" of this response is what led to his other discoveries.* He found that his most delicate instruments were so sensitive that they were thrown out by the gravity of a person moving in the next room.* (He invented a "torsion balance" while investigating this.)* He found out that what people had been calling a vacuum was nowhere near one, and the effect of radiation varied dramatically as you reduced the pressure: his radiometers (usually made symmetrically, with flat vanes, black one side, white the other) could reverse direction.* He was under the impression that the force he was seeing reduced to zero at zero density but could not be sure.* He could not obtain rarefactions that would take him past the point at which a hydrogen vacuum produced increased response as you decreased the density.

...

What I want to know is the next part of the story: what happens at even lower densities?* Do we know what "radiation pressure" would be in a pure vacuum?* Can it even be defined unambiguously?* As Crookes was fond of saying, “Any theory will account for some facts; but only the true explanation will satisfy all the conditions of the problem …”.** I wonder if modern theory does take account of all the facts he discovered?* What made Nancy Cartwright, in her book, “How the Laws of Physics Lie” (Clarendon Press 1983), say that nobody yet knew just how the radiometer worked?

I have been wanting to know more about Crookes for quite some time; I will seek out more of his work, and share it here when I can...This section of the website above has some other interesting bits of "Forgotten History" that many here would probably want to peruse as well.

To continue on, here is an article by Mendeleev on the constitution of the Aether:

An Attempt Towards A Chemical Conception Of The Ether

From what I gather after a quick skim of it, the Aether is postulated to be an element coming before Hydrogen and with inert gas-like properties. I find this particularly fascinating for many reasons, but some include the consideration of other model's I've come across:

*Aethro-Kinematics by Steven Rado – This is essentially a model that treats the Aether as an ideal gas. Some of the topics seem particularly relevant, for example:

Chapter Twelve re-establishes Faraday's and Maxwell's initial aether concepts of lines, tubes and fields of forces in the ideal gas model of the Aether and introduces a kinematical understanding of electricity and magnetism without the action at a distance attraction and repulsion between elementary charges.

and

Chapter Fourteen uncovers the fundamental hidden ambiguity of the classical mechanical wave theory, which ultimately led to the theory of the uniquely transverse nature of electromagnetic waves. This condition of the transverse oscillation was imposed on the undulatory theory of light by the allegedly otherwise unexplainable phenomenon of polarization. In turn, the restoring force required for the transverse oscillation of light made all feasible mechanical model, including the ideal gas model of the Aether, physically impossible. After uncovering the misconceptions of the over-simplified mechanics of the transverse waves on a string that affected all subsequent wave theories, a new kinematical theory of wave-motion is presented. Based purely on the kinetic theory of periodical compression pulses, this hypothesis offers a kinematical solution for all optical phenomena, including double refraction and polarization without the imposed assumption of the uniquely transverse nature of electromagnetic radiation. With this, the seemingly impenetrable theoretical barrier, that has blocked the ideal gas model of the Aether for two centuries, has been removed.

*The work of Walter & Lao Russell – In their later work they state plainly that "'Space' is not empty – nor is it an 'ether'." (pg. 125, A New Concept of the Universe). However, I quickly hasten to add that it seems they do not use the term for a very particular reason, and I think that reason is because they felt humanity was already aware of something that embodied all the features of an "Aether". Immediately after the quote above they continue to describe how all of what we normally term "space" is actually the inverse of matter, and "filled" with electric fields centered by inert gases. The inert gases act as an "electrical recording system" of Nature out of which physical objects unfold like a tree from a seed, or to state it another way, are electrically projected from it like a hologram. All things are seen as being centered by an inert gas. For example, in their periodic table you can see the "Inert Gas Line" clearly running through all of the elements. Like Mendeleev above, they too have placed elements before Hydrogen (many of them!) that blend smoothly into this line (leading me to believe that maybe these elements also have inert gas-like qualities?). It is also stated that while these elements have not been seen (at the time of their writings) their existence can be inferred by harmonic patterns present within elemental spectra (which are "light records" of their history)...All elements are understood as unfolding from the ONE, with every successive element being that same ONE merely at a different pressures, or perhaps, different times...I will pause there for now...

Out of care, I feel the need to state that while it seems that the simple concept of resonance is the principle at the core of unlocking the potential of many devices (including the human body and the experience we manifest), be sure to exercise a healthy sense of caution. It is unwise to couple to "energies" one cannot handle and/or will act like a leech upon (to ill effect upon oneself and others).

Also, I feel that the use of Cymatics to elucidate patterns in regards to the Aether is not necessarily a logical fallacy, but a potentially useful analogy. Sound waves are also longitudinal. Further, I have no hesitancy whatsoever in saying that ALL things are Music.

Please forgive the length of my post.
May we know all Love and Wisdom.

[jarvamundo]

Thanks PureConst & TRex for the references. v-helpful.

Guys it's not the homopolar motor, look for the variable reluctance device... It'll be the one made from dielectric, with a whole heap of meters connected to it! Pay attention to the descriptions of the "load" side of the demonstration, it turns out the load >is< tuned. Repeat it is not the homopolar device, where these calculations are made. (although an interesting device in it'self.)

[vrand]

Thanks PureConst & TRex for the references. v-helpful.

Guys it's not the homopolar motor, look for the variable reluctance device... It'll be the one made from dielectric, with a whole heap of meters connected to it! Pay attention to the descriptions of the "load" side of the demonstration, it turns out the load >is< tuned. Repeat it is not the homopolar device, where these calculations are made. (although an interesting device in it'self.)

In the 1987 Santa Barbara video, 45 min's into it shows a PM Faraday AC disk device. Here are some a snap shots:


- Diagram showing a metal Disk with N-S-N-S magnets.
- The 2 arrows are the typical carbon brush electical connections in a Faraday Disk on the outer edges of the disk.
- The 2 Red Dots brush locations on the rotor shaft (9 & 12 positions) shows one of the breakthroughs in this design.



- Photos of PM Disk with DC motor on left and pillow block holding the 2 metal disks with PM between.
- The brush electrical connections are held by a C-clap for the outer disk edge and the other electrical location is on the rotor shaft.







- AC Waveform on Scope:



Carbon Brushes with torroidal Current Transformer used on the rotor shaft takeoff position, to measure the 100 amps AC output current:




Cheers Mike

[Pinwheel]

I'm actually surprised that nobody takes into account the motion/velocity of the earth relative to the aether when mesmerized by cymatics. I still think it's because nobody really thinks of the aether when considering cymatics - postulating that cymatics is somehow responsible for behavior of the aether (or some other vagueness like that) rather than the aether being responsible for the phenomenon observed in cymatics.

If the earth is travelling at ludicrous speed (Spaceballs) through the aether (the earth having it's own magnetic and electric and gravity fields), and you take a metal (notice they don't use wood or plastic) plate and oscillate the fk out of it with soundwaves, maybe all that extra (kinetic) energy added to the plate in tiny high energy oscillations causes it to interact with the aether differently then when at "rest" (ludicrous speed). The plate being manipulated in and out of a type of phase with the relative motion of the aether at high velocity (that velocity is still probably slower then the 'at rest' motion of the earth) receives energy from the aether at different rates causing it to form complex standing waves within it's own structure. Then we can detect those waves with a fluid medium, the plate or tub or whatever transferring some of it's energy to the fluid.

Not "sound waves create matter out of nothing" (and related vagueness-es), like in the introductory part of those videos that lamare posted. It's just another version of mystical bla bla bla same as any religious origin of life thesis. It's all the same thesis just different characters.

/edit: The idea being that the aether is naturally trying to re-impose upon the plate the 'at rest' momentum of the mass and matter, but the additional soundwaves don't allow it to. This results in complex looking standing waves that we can visually observe - due to the material being used to demonstrate the effect.