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  • Originally posted by lamare View Post


    If you look at the magnetic lines and remember the right hand rule, it is clear that the "current", or aether movement, is in the other direction:
    What if?

    Something I noticed...
    A pattern regarding the simple idea/concepts that divide 'west' from 'east'.

    Western religions have always been described as 'linear' i.e. having a beginning point (genesis) and an end point (amen) not unlike electrical flux lines.

    ....However the philosophical/cosmological theories emanating from the east have focused more on the idea of a 'circular' or continuous evolutionary path for humans dealing with Karmic forces....similar to the idea of magnetic flux lines that loop.

    What if we assign the idea and promotion of ELECTRICITY to western ideals (thanks Benjamin Franklin/Telsa and Edison) and the idea of MAGNETISM to the orient which in fact developed the first magnetic compass?



    Right hand rules?
    Funny how the western religions show a preference for the RIGHT Hand and the Chinese revere the LEFT Hand associated with Lao Tzu, the father of Taoism.

    Also the idea of 'longitude', used for navigating the oceans was an idea that took time to develop in the west...
    And in fact the intersection where 1 degree of latitude = 1 degree of longitude occurs at 55 degrees.

    So what is significant about the number 55?

    AHA!
    How do we link the number '55' to the double helix called DNA?

    namaste
    Last edited by Raphael37; 03-25-2013, 02:20 PM.

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    • Finally some info

      Finally found some info on the use of TM mode wave guides in practice:

      Directory contents of /pdf/Reference_Material/TM_mode_waveguide/

      These are the most interesting ones:
      http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...0US4672387.pdf

      http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...%20Antenna.pdf

      http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...0US5369367.pdf

      This page from "Microwave Engineering 2E" is also appealing:

      Microwave Engineering 2E - Das - Google Boeken



      Haven't been looking at this stuff for a long time. Perhaps it's time to re-think some of the stuff again and think about making a TM mode waveguide horn.

      The big question is whether or not we can get a longitudinal wave radiating from a TM mode wave guide. When we use a radius of about 1 wavelength for the waveguide, we should get a phase velocity of about pi/2 times c, as calculated in my previous post.

      Will a TM01 mode waveguide with this specific diameter mostly radiate longitudinal waves or will it just radiate plain old EM waves?
      Last edited by lamare; 04-26-2013, 08:02 AM.

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      • thick electric wire & toroidal transformer - YouTube
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        • We can also use the toroid as a barrier if it doesn't have a conductive path,
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          • 300Kv On A Television - YouTube
            How does this barrier stop 300,000 volts, what is the magnetic, electric configuration.
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            • Our main problem using a dc pulse is bemf, not the spike we can catch that into a cap or use a bifilar winding to run it back into the coil, its the magnetic field that the bemf produces it changes direction this stops the flywheel effect we need to pump energy in one direction.
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              • If our coil is wound on a toroid (flywheel) the bemf stops the kick by changing the magnetic field direction.
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                • In order to create a waveguide we need to eliminate bemf, the only way I can see to do this is use a dielectric to stop the field from collapsing into the coil. We have to ICEolate the coils
                  A stacked toroid configuration to funnel energy into a collection grid.

                  The field that causes bemf is collected in the grid, never collapses into the coils, the coils are allowed to create the flywheel.
                  Last edited by Dave45; 04-27-2013, 01:16 PM.
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                  • If these toroids were wound using the Rodin configuration we would have a spinning vortex, like water down a drain.
                    enough rattling today
                    Last edited by Dave45; 04-27-2013, 01:17 PM.
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                    • I forgot about the z pinch it applies here as well

                      Reflection is a problem, pure gold would be the least reflective material I can think of.
                      Maybe now we can understand why gold has been so coveted down through the ages.
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                      • Tesla showed us the field
                        Nikola Tesla - Columbus Egg - 1893 Chicago - YouTube
                        In the radar basics website I read if you go against the field you gain energy but with the field you give energy to the field, with a magnetron we are giving energy to the field because the free electron spins with the field, but if a Tesla pancake coil were used we could force the electron against the field and gain energy.

                        Using a ring magnet from a very large speaker and a sphere magnet inside a tube you will find the same field inside the core, it doesnt spin the sphere but does pull from the center out, whats interesting is in the vid above the field seems to pull towards the middle.

                        Maybe Tesla has hidden the secret in plain site, an energy well all we have to do is iceolate and collect it.
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                        • Originally posted by Dave45
                          another winding configuration
                          interesting photo dave

                          you might be interested in this video then...





                          video >> The Armenian Wheel Of Eternity - YouTube

                          namaste

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                          • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                            Tesla showed us the field
                            Nikola Tesla - Columbus Egg - 1893 Chicago - YouTube
                            In the radar basics website I read if you go against the field you gain energy but with the field you give energy to the field, with a magnetron we are giving energy to the field because the free electron spins with the field, but if a Tesla pancake coil were used we could force the electron against the field and gain energy.

                            Using a ring magnet from a very large speaker and a sphere magnet inside a tube you will find the same field inside the core, it doesnt spin the sphere but does pull from the center out, whats interesting is in the vid above the field seems to pull towards the middle.

                            Maybe Tesla has hidden the secret in plain site, an energy well all we have to do is iceolate and collect it.
                            YES it is in plain site.
                            Once you know what to look for, you cannot help see it, and its many variations/incarnations.
                            The swastika Hitler used was based on the geometry of the 5x5 grid.
                            Same size magic square as the 5x5 square of Mars and the Sator Square.



                            Tesla the Magician and the Sator Magic Square | Alternative Thinking 37


                            Well while we are on the topic of swastikas and swirly twirly whirly windings I want to point out something profound pointing us toward something that JUST IS.

                            Well Dave how do I show that there exists a profound association between that Tesla video, the Columbus Egg demonstration in 1893 and our ancestors who hatched an IDEA at least 6000+ years ago?



                            So we know this image 'exhibit A' is taken from Tesla's Columbus Egg demo ...
                            Okay we can see how the Egg prefers to loiter around the center sweet spot too.

                            Well it is not hard to establish that the swastika since time immemorial has represented to the consciousness of man, the sun and motion. Those two associations we can make at the very least.

                            So here is 'exhibit B', evidence from Samarra Iraq circa 4000+ BCE. We see it has positioned at the center a symbol representing a spin motion.
                            a.k.a. as the swastika

                            And this container is in fact in the shape of a bowl too!



                            How deep down the swastika hole do you want to go?

                            Swastika Plate 5000 BC is a Model of the Milky Way | Reconciliation of Science and Religion





                            To give you an idea of where I have taken this AHA.
                            The swastika, Tesla, String Theory, Knights Templar are all on the same page hovering around the same ideas.

                            Story of the W and Z – Sator Square – Twistor String Theory – Penrose & Schwaller & Witten & Wedekind | Alternative Thinking 37

                            cheers,

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                            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              In order to create a waveguide we need to eliminate bemf, the only way I can see to do this is use a dielectric to stop the field from collapsing into the coil. We have to ICEolate the coils
                              I thought about that, too. There may be another solution, which is to use the same construction as I posted about before, the sleeve or bazooka balun:

                              Originally posted by lamare View Post

                              The idea is to use a radiating "sleeve" or "bazooka" balun, meanwhile preventing the coax mantle to radiate:

                              What about a balun?

                              >Why is it some antenna's have baluns and others have not?

                              The purpose of a balun is to prevent the coax cable from radiating. However, in order for the coax to radiate, there would need to be some radiative component along the axis of the coax to induce current in the coax. A symmetrical biquad doesn't have any such field component. Therefore, a balun is not needed.

                              However, things get a bit different when the balun is used to feed an offset dish. The field is no longer axially symmetrical, and the coax is in the reflected field from the dish. Therefore a balun is probably a good idea with a dish.

                              In general (with lots of exceptions), when the coax cable is in the antenna field, you need a balun. The real question is how much difference does it make? Most of the effect is in reducing VSWR, not increasing gain. With relatively low gain antennas (i.e. biquad with 10dBi gain), it probably might improve things perhaps a few tenths of a dB and is not worth the effort. However, with higher gain antennas, such as a dish, the lack of symmetry caused by a radiating feed could easily distort the pattern, create sidelobes, boresight errors, and VSWR.

                              Also, some antennas are best constructed with 200 ohm feed points (i.e. Franklin antenna).
                              Sector antenne voor Wifi ISM band (2,4GHz)
                              Adding a 4:1 balun solves the balance problem and the impedance transform problem at the same time. You may therefore see a balun on some symmetrical antennas that don't normally require one, but where the impedance transformer action makes one convenient.
                              Note that longitudinal waves are supposed to propagate along the axis of the whip and coax feed line....


                              Dipole antenna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                              At VHF frequencies, a sleeve balun can also be built to remove feeder radiation.

                              * Another narrow band design is to use a λ/4 length of metal pipe. The coaxial cable is placed inside the pipe; at one end the braid is wired to the pipe while at the other end no connection is made to the pipe. The balanced end of this balun is at the end where the pipe is wired to the braid. The λ/4 conductor acts as a transformer converting the infinite impedance at the unconnected end into a zero impedance at the end connected to the braid. Hence any current entering the balun through the connection, which goes to the braid at the end with the connection to the pipe, will flow into the pipe. This balun design is impractical for low frequencies because of the long length of pipe that will be needed.


                              Sleeve baluns
                              Depending on which layout is mechanically easier to build and if you want the sleeve to radiate, the sleeve can be connected like this or reversed. In the layout below the sleeve is non-radiating. In a collinear antenna we might want to reverse the sleeve so it forms half of a dipole element.


                              [...]


                              From the above, we observe the following characteristics in a sleeve balun:

                              1.) The highest possible choke sleeve impedance (largest ratio of balun sleeve diameter to outside of transmission line) is desired. We won’t have a good balun if the choking Zo (ratio of sleeve inner diameter to coaxial shield outer diameter) is small.

                              2.) The balun requires the lowest possible loss over the length of the sleeve. It forms a transmission line from the inside of the sleeve to the outside of the coax. The coax jacket is a dielectric, so we need to keep a lot of air inside of the choking sleeve or the coax jacket will increase loss and reduce impedance, both being very undesirable.

                              3.) The velocity factor of the sleeve, based on the dielectric between the sleeve and the shield of the coaxial cable we are trying to balance or choke, is very important to length of the sleeve.

                              The following construction guidelines apply:

                              The cable should have a good low-loss jacket or a very large air or low loss dielectric gap between the shield and the sleeve. Since energy is normally confined to the inside of a coaxial cable manufacturers are not concerned about jacket losses. They use outer materials with long life, not low RF loss. It is advisable to use a filler material with a high volume of air to maximize sleeve impedance and minimize sleeve losses.

                              It is also advisable to use the largest practical diameter sleeve with the smallest diameter coaxial cable inside to maximize choking impedance.

                              The sleeve length has to account for velocity factor of the sleeve, since the sleeve forms a coaxial transmission line with the outer conductor of the coaxial cable it is intended to choke or decouple.
                              http://web.archive.org/web/201007170...io/sleeve.html (copy here: sleeve1 )

                              The sleeve balun does not give any impedance transformation; it is a 1:1 balun. This is fairly easy to achieve at VHF. All that is required is a tube that is coupled to the outer of the coax at approximately 0.93 X l/4 from the antenna feed point.


                              The ratio D/d should be around 2.5 to 4. The open end of the tube facing the antenna element should be as close as possible. In effect this tube is a shorted l/4, at it open end the impedance looking back down the coax is high, thus preventing RF current developing on the outer of the coax.

                              I have made sleeve baluns using 15 mm copper water pipe and soldering a 'Free socket N' type connector onto it. The l/4 may be less than that of free space l/4, because of the close proximity of the outer tube to the coaxial cable. I found that 468 mm seems to work OK at 2 m, when using RG213 or URM 67.
                              What's this weird antenna called? - RC Groups
                              What people wanting DIY a sleeve balun should know, is the fact that the sleeve must be at some distance from the coax, and this empty space must be air, not a plastic insulator !

                              The RC-cam antenna done using the coax mesh to simulate sleeve balun is one of the most popular but flawed example of how to not make this, because the balun part is so close to coax, making it zero efficiency.

                              [...]

                              Not quite correct. The distance between the outer conductor and the inner conducter need not be air. It can be any dialectric or insulating material, it is just that the spacing has to be adjusted to accommodate the dielectric constant of that particular insulation material.

                              [...]

                              The thing weird revealed:
                              Note that the presence of a dielectric in between the outer conductor and inner conductor influences the propagation speed of the waves, which means the length of the sleeve must be adapted to that. And indeed, it is better to have some space between the inner and outer conductors, which is preferably air in our case, since we want the outer conductor to be part of our 1/2 wave dipole....

                              Also see:

                              Antenna Theory - Bazooka Baluns

                              In principle, such a bazooka should also work when mounted around a TM mode waveguide. It appears to me that it should be possible to kill the magnetic component of the propagating TM wave using such a bazooka, or at least to prevent it from radiating the magnetic component out into space.

                              But I have to think more about this. I will first see how far I can get with simulating a TM mode feed along the lines of these two documents:

                              http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...0US4672387.pdf
                              http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...%20Antenna.pdf

                              I am currently running a simulation with a waveguide of 23cm diameter, a probe of 1/4 lambda and a length of 48 cm. When that works out, I will see what happens when I add a "balun".

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                              • The field is there its verified tech, the magnetron shows that, we just need to tap into it.

                                Radar Basics - Magnetron


                                Using the ring magnet the field moves from the center out but the Tesla egg it looks to move from the outside in, very interesting.

                                Job 38:22
                                Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
                                They use radar to detect how much ice is in a thunderstorm this tells them how much electrical charge is in the thunderstorm, they say the ice bumps into each other causing a charge separation.
                                I personally think the ice kicks electrons from the earths magnetic field and this causes a charge separation.
                                The ice is the perfect dielectric, I was worried about reflection but the ice should stop any kind of reflection.
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