Ray Savant - Muhamed - Techzombie Exposed

[Farmhand]

So Eric is upset that I posted that I thought he should not have to climb the poles huh.

Well I'm entitled to my opinion and I am a trained tradesman that has been
taught workplace health and safety, if he climbs poles and other people are
there it's fine, but if he does it alone was my only concern.

He needn't bother think that I am trying to undermine his efforts. I posted out
of pure logic and concern, he can take it however he likes though because it's
a free world he can do as he pleases.

I posted a fair comment after watching the interview from the conference.

It's not my fault Techzombie replied to me.

If Eric doesn't like people giving their opinion he should stay off the public
forums. Or ignore it.

I did nothing but showed concern and ask some questions. I have zero to feel bad about.

You should have had someone buy up the domain names as soon as possible.

I could make a webpage with any unused domain name if I wish. As far as I can tell.

Some of us have years of experience in structural steel erections, as trained
tradesmen.

If Eric thinks i am a keyboard Jockey he is sadly mistaken and making an invalid assumption.

Obviously all the denouncing Eric did of the (certain groups of people) meant nothing as he is now in league with them.

I think this requires clearing up of the matter.

Which of the people Eric previously denounced are now ok ?

We need to hear from Eric who he is aligned with and who he see's as ok now.

So Ray Savant is out who is still in ? Aaron,Peter,John,David, is David still ok ?

The Navy is still in Eric's good books I think.

People are donating money but do they really know what for and what Eric stands for ?

I folks are gonna donate they have a right to expect to know what will come
of it or what the intended overall outcome will be.

I'll donate money to anyone for food and shelter but I don't donate for people
to do experiments. If Eric's food and shelter needs are met he needs no
money from me. I think all of us would like a big Lab and field to work in but
most of us only want it if we can pay for it, the owner will always have the say.

If Eric is still fit and healthy he ought to be able to earn his own money.

Personally I have a serious neck problem where i have had two discs removed
from my neck four years ago and the fusion didn't take I have screws in my
neck that my body sees as foreign objects and suffer incredible pain everyday
while waiting to be fixed I've been waiting four yeas now since the problem
arose after the operation, before that I had two completely collapsed discs in
my neck for over 15 years and held down boilermaking jobs while having two
ruptured discs in my neck. Eric is fit and healthy he needs no help from me.
No one should feel sorry for me, life is tough. Many others suffer a similar fate.

He should go and earn some money and be the master of his own fate.

Good luck Eric.

[Aaron]

@John Polakowski

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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
Ray is the instigator here and John P has been promised something that is due to him in the future and this is why he is backing this - from what I can gather.

I have no idea what you are talking about here, but I would like to know!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
Ray and John P are LIARS and they are LYING to everyone here about who I am or what I'm doing.

What am I lying about that you keep referencing? Is that what you do when you can't refute facts? Call someone a liar to mitigate their argument? Its a pretty serious charge to call someone a liar in my book. So if your going to continue to do it you better back it up with some facts.

Because everyone here is reading it and reading your responses. And I would rather not stay on a forum where the moderator publicly accuses someone on a forum of being a liar and then refuses to state what it is they are lying about. There are a lot of key people here who would rather take their knowledge somewhere else if you're going to continue to throw insults.

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The above is John Polakowski's post.

Ok John Polakowski....

It is more than clear that:

1. Accusing me of manipulating Eric was a lie. You said it was just your opinion, yet it still was a claim by YOU, it had no basis in reality and you simply went along with what Ray Savant was saying and you didn't even bother to find out what the facts are. You slandered me wrongly and you need to take responsibility for this.

2. What I am talking about? I know for a fact that you are now fully aware of the fact, especially because of the interview I had with Eric, that the goal has been to kick Eric out of his own organization with the belief that you were to be the replacement who would do the work that Eric was supposed to do. That is why I said you have been promised something or perhaps you were not aware of it and left it at that. So, as a person of my word who told you that I will let you know what this was about, there it is!

Your response to this post will determine what kind of integrity and character you are operating with - you have one opportunity to show everyone here. I hope you do the right thing because I know what kind of opportunity that you still may have available to you.

[brusers]

Eric Support

I was trying to avoid this thread, just because I thought this was going to be another pissing contest that would eventually add up to nothing and blow over. But after listening to the latest interview with Eric, it seems that it's taken on a pretty serious tone. So I thought I would jump on here to show some support.

@Eric, I hope the best for your situation, really, this is unfortunate. I really hope there comes a ligitimate avenue of assistance that will pull you out of this. I know I speak for a silent majority when I say your addition to the Energetic Forum has been truley priceless, and I hope it, as well as your personal studies, can continue. I'm not currently able to help out financially or physically. Just finished with 6 months unemployment and a nasty divorce, leaving me stuck in Finland.. but possibly in a short time it may become possible. If there is anything else I can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask.

@Aaron, Quite a crossfire you got yourself into there, keep your head up. (or down I guess, in a crossfire?). I'm not sure of your future communications with Eric concerning this matter or other relations, but if there is anything I can do to help you, please don't hesitate to ask.

Br,

Marcel

[Aaron]

Ray Savant

I have been contacted by multiple people that all say they have been insulted, attacked or harassed by Ray Savant - they just didn't know who he was and referred to him as "Tech Zombie". I will release details as I can - I have to have their permission first to do so and there are suggestions of a joint law-suit against Ray Savant, which I am more than happy to support. More to come...

[Aaron]

Thank you Marcel!

I was trying to avoid this thread, just because I thought this was going to be another pissing contest that would eventually add up to nothing and blow over. But after listening to the latest interview with Eric, it seems that it's taken on a pretty serious tone. So I thought I would jump on here to show some support.

@Eric, I hope the best for your situation, really, this is unfortunate. I really hope there comes a ligitimate avenue of assistance that will pull you out of this. I know I speak for a silent majority when I say your addition to the Energetic Forum has been truley priceless, and I hope it, as well as your personal studies, can continue. I'm not currently able to help out financially or physically. Just finished with 6 months unemployment and a nasty divorce, leaving me stuck in Finland.. but possibly in a short time it may become possible. If there is anything else I can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask.

@Aaron, Quite a crossfire you got yourself into there, keep your head up. (or down I guess, in a crossfire?). I'm not sure of your future communications with Eric concerning this matter or other relations, but if there is anything I can do to help you, please don't hesitate to ask.

Br,

Marcel

Thank you for your support Marcel!

Eric doesn't have to evacuate or have anything taken from him - and that may be the first time this is the case. We all actually can help make that a reality for him. The organization simply needs to put the right people on the board of directors to set things straight and to eject Ray Savant out of the picture because he is nothing but a menace.

Once that is done, money can be raised to install 3-phase power into the building and they can move to the next step. When all that foundational stuff is completed, it will be able to sustain itself without donations and Eric can share the CIG and other things, but the practical end of it has to be completed first.

You can see from past posts that Ray inserts his will in a very unwelcome way that he wants to get the CIG done. Well, that is putting the horse before the cart and there is no sense in that. Eric is actually the one with the practical sense, contrary to how they want to paint him, and Eric needs the 3-phase power installed a few other things to fulfill the organization's role in the municipality that it is in.

That is what will generate the funds to sustain the lab and then Eric will be setup in a way both financially, etc... so that he can bring all the other important, fun and profound work out to the public.

[brusers]

Support

Thank you for your support Marcel!

Eric doesn't have to evacuate or have anything taken from him - and that may be the first time this is the case. We all actually can help make that a reality for him. The organization simply needs to put the right people on the board of directors to set things straight and to eject Ray Savant out of the picture because he is nothing but a menace.

Once that is done, money can be raised to install 3-phase power into the building and they can move to the next step. When all that foundational stuff is completed, it will be able to sustain itself without donations and Eric can share the CIG and other things, but the practical end of it has to be completed first.

You can see from past posts that Ray inserts his will in a very unwelcome way that he wants to get the CIG done. Well, that is putting the horse before the cart and there is no sense in that. Eric is actually the one with the practical sense, contrary to how they want to paint him, and Eric needs the 3-phase power installed a few other things to fulfill the organization's role in the municipality that it is in.

That is what will generate the funds to sustain the lab and then Eric will be setup in a way both financially, etc... so that he can bring all the other important, fun and profound work out to the public.

Well, thats good to hear. Sounds like there is a decent amount of hope for the man. And yes, from the interview it sounds like this Ray is an interesting fellow. I'll leave it at that..

Thanks for the interview post, and thanks again for helping Eric out. I will keep my eyes out for when it's time for the 3-phase.

Marcel

[jimm]

Another lab gone?

I have been contacted by multiple people that all say they have been insulted, attacked or harassed by Ray Savant - they just didn't know who he was and referred to him as "Tech Zombie". I will release details as I can - I have to have their permission first to do so and there are suggestions of a joint law-suit against Ray Savant, which I am more than happy to support. More to come...

In the real world, when people are being harassed or threatened, they can get an order of protection from the perpetrator.
In this case it sounds like there are people involved who do not agree with Eric's assessment. However, if he has a right to be at the lab(which sounds like that is in question at this time) he has a right to live and work in peace.

The interview does back up what you are saying Aaron, but Eric was mentioning that there were "rouge elements" who were aligned with TZ.
Wouldn't it have been better if he just stated who he still wanted to work with? Accentuate the POSITIVE, rather than dwell on the negative.

Also, since everything with the lab project has been so sloppily done, Eric, EPD or you are going to have to legally compel Mr Savant to stop redirecting Ericdollard.com to Aetherforce as well as to stop using his image on the site.

Why is the official EPD (EDPlaboratories.org) such a mess? Is there anyone in charge of it?
The interview with Eric left me more confused about who controls what that I was before.
Why not just spell it out? Who is in, who is out, who owns what and how Eric fits into this puzzle.

TZ did a good job of getting Eric on the internet. Why didn't his "core people" do that in the first place? If he was such a malevolent force, why wasn't TZ shown the door, rather than gaining support from some of the members?
Are they jihadists too?

Eric says he really doesn't really want public donations and would be OK with going back to the bush. If he stays on this path without being decisive, he will get his wish.

So many questions, so few answers, but at least we know for sure that he doesn't want to be associated with TZ. Thanks for letting us hear that from the "horses mouth".

If Eric has a municipal project going on, then he should be able to get funded to finish it. What is that all about?...another mystery...

[Sputins]

Hi everyone,

You all have wanted to hear from Eric Dollard personally so you can hear what he has to say about Ray Savant "Muhamed" Tech Zombie.

Here it is...
Eric Dollard Interview EXPOSING RAY SAVANT "Techzombie" - YouTube - if you have a youtube account, please login and LIKE the video to show your support of Eric!

After you hear this, if you still believe Ray Savant's allegations about me or anything else he says, please kindly excuse yourself from this forum.

If you support Eric Dollard and want to show your support, Boycott every single thing that Ray Savant is involved in and post your support for Eric here. That way, Eric knows that you care about him and his work and that you want to see things set right for his non-profit organization and lab.

@Aaron

Thank you for the recent video / audio recording from Eric.

It certainly makes it clear that Eric does not want Ray Savant (Techzombie) to be involved with himself or EPD Labs anymore, period. - I have much more to say on this topic and situation which is written and will be fourth coming.

I truly hope the relationship with yourself, Dave Webster & John Polakowski can be repaired and you can all move forward.

@40:38 - What does Eric mean exactly by the building being lost and no where to put equipment or is that what could potentially happen? What is the situation?

Eric Paul Dollard - He cannot be replaced by anyone. He is one of a kind, we all know this. As I have stated before, Eric has my full support.

As with the devil, Ray Savant (TechZombie) and his works are renounced.

Sputins.

[Aether]

I didn't want to comment on this until I heard from Eric, thanks for posting that video and making things clear. I hope the guys who jumped the gun on judgment upon Eric and Aaron have it within themselves to see this and admit they were wrong. I hope Eric get's it sorted out. I was pretty supportive of TechZombie when he first started posting because of the fact that he helped raised support for Eric, but the thing that always turned me off and raised a few red flags was the fact that he opened up a Facebook account under Eric's name and started posting on it, and still does, giving some people the impression that it is actually Eric posting. I'd encourage anyone who has facebook to post that video on TechZombies "Eric Dollard" page.

[Geometric_Algebra]

Aaron, thanks for the video/audio update which clarifies Eric's position on the zombie and your relationship to Eric.

Eric, please continue to submit updates here once in awhile so we know what resources/donations you need.

[Aaron]

the lab

Eric was mentioning that there were "rouge elements" who were aligned with TZ.
Wouldn't it have been better if he just stated who he still wanted to work with?

Who is in, who is out, who owns what and how Eric fits into this puzzle

Some people that Eric does want to work with will remain anonymous at this time.

John Polakowski has given an indication that he is on Eric Dollard's side.

For anyone else - I'm not sure yet.

David Wittekind does have an investment in the building, transmitter, etc... so all that has to be considered but Eric's wishes have to be considered as well.

Wittekind has remained eerily silent on this matter and to me, the silence implies consent to the communications by Ray, Webster and Polakowski. If he condones such behavior against me by them, then, that would make me suspicious. If Wittekind has been a victim in all of this as Eric is, then that's really unfortunate.

I would hope to see an official statement by Wittekind that he denounces Ray. Eric's desires are very clear to Wittekind about who Eric wants on the board of directors and who he doesn't. All that will be done between all of them.

[Aaron]

@Sputins

I have much more to say on this topic and situation which is written and will be fourth coming.

I truly hope the relationship with yourself, Dave Webster & John Polakowski can be repaired and you can all move forward.

@40:38 - What does Eric mean exactly by the building being lost and no where to put equipment or is that what could potentially happen? What is the situation?

Eric Paul Dollard - He cannot be replaced by anyone. He is one of a kind, we all know this. As I have stated before, Eric has my full support.

As with the devil, Ray Savant (TechZombie) and his works are renounced.

Sputins.

Thank you Sputins.

Looking forward to what you have to say.

I hope certain relationships can be repaired as well. That could start with a public apology.

The building and equipment at the lab appear to be fine. Eric is just voicing his disappointment with everything going on. Depending on how things go, yes, it could be all at risk potentially if Eric is restricted from having his desires for the organization respected.

[Aaron]

Message from Eric Dollard

Eric requested that the donations paypal account be closed so please do not donate anything else to that account.

You can mail donations to Eric in Lone Pine. At some point there will be a new paypal account and that will be announced.

Eric apologizes for not responding to his letters because he is busy finishing his book and dealing with the recent distress. He will get to them as soon as he can. Thank you for your patience.

He expresses much appreciation for the donations he gets by mail.

[Farmhand]

While Myself and dR Green were collaborating in the thread I made, I was told
by one of Eric's "then" associates that he didn't really think I was doing
anything wrong himself, however he claimed Eric was pressuring him to
denounce me as a disinfo agent and so forth. I think I can find the PM's, I
usually keep the good ones.

Then I was told by another of his "then" associates that he didn't agree with
Eric's abuses of me, but kind of implied it would be good to just ignore the
abuse so "we can get as much as we can out of him" was close to the rhetoric.

I'm withholding names for now, If Eric was behind it he will know their names,
if he wasn't he should be able to deduce who it was. The two are in the
debacle now. Mr TechZombie was not one of them as far as I can tell, unless
he used a different handle starting with J or D.

If Eric was actually behind my abuses or not I can't say but I feel he was
pressuring and manipulating others to persecute me for some silly reason.
I just wanted to experiment and Eric ruined my thread because he thinks he
knows all and no one else can learn anything their way, he thinks everyone
must follow his work and idea's. I study Tesla Not Dollard. I admit I have read
some of his work but I don't understand much.

Didn't stop me from building a nice coil though and a decent supply circuit.

I used his crystal radio circuit and it works very well, but I can change it and
it still works. It even works without being connected to ground, just a small
dodgy Tesla coil on the bench connected to the detector circuit, to get the
signal without the ground requires different tuning but that I think is because
the ground connection actually changes the resonating frequency of the
oscillator.

If people wrong others knowingly their own internal karma will get them in the
end, unless a psychopath that is, karma has no effect on psychopaths.

No one likes to be abused or treated unfairly, some people are above
apologies, to their own detriment.

I feel as though once again I am being misrepresented or misunderstood. Not
to worry, it's common and I can get past it and do my own thing.

Cheers

P.S. Just one thing I would like to know is who first contacted Eric so that he found out about my thread and came to abuse me about it ?

Just tell me that Eric. Did you discover it all by yourself or were you informed of it.

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[Aaron]

@All

@Everyone - thank you for your support and encouragement in all of this. It has been very trying for many of us, but it has not been in vain. I talked to Eric a little bit ago and he also thanks everyone for their support in this. There have been some discussions with a few individuals that are key to the operation and things will be moving forward as intended. It's unfortunate this interview was necessary, but it worked and the mission has been refocused and will move forward! Thank you all!

There will be a few bumpy roads to navigate from here, but nevertheless, Eric is very encouraged by all of this and without the influence of the nefarious element in question, many of them are breathing a sign of relief!