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[witsend]

Hi Mike. That was really interesting. Many thanks for that. Just don't show your engineer friend or he'll be slapping on patents all over the place. My guess is that this is really useable and doable. Think of all those potential applications.

And it will be so, so nice to hear some kind of classical explanation for this. LOL

[Harvey]

Hi Mike. That was really interesting. Many thanks for that. Just don't show your engineer friend or he'll be slapping on patents all over the place. My guess is that this is really useable and doable. Think of all those potential applications.

And it will be so, so nice to hear some kind of classical explanation for this. LOL

The skeptics will always find something to nitpick, like "how much does the battery recover with zero load, circuit off?".

Come to think of it, that would be a great demonstration, Mike - show the 5W draw down, then disconnect the circuit and watch the battery until it stops rebounding with every thing disconnected but the meter, then hook up the circuit by itself and watch the battery charge up!!

How could they fault that?


Great Job Mike, keep up the good work!

[gotoluc]

Hi Michael and all,

Below is the link to your new video.

Link:YouTube - STEAP circuit self running


Here is a frequency spectrum of your circuit. You have that reed relay vibrating at about 5,500Hz. Good job my friend



Added:
Thanks for sharing your circuit test and results Michael

One thing that comes to mind (from a past experience) is your battery being below its normal operating voltage range could be causing this fast voltage rise which maybe only a surface charge that does not hold under load. You may want to recharge your battery and make sure it holds a charge above 12.5 volts.

I'm not saying this to discourage you as I want your circuit to succeed

You could also try a pre-charged capacitor and use it instead of the battery and see if it self runs.

Wishing you the best

Luc

[Harvey]

Thanx Gotoluc,

The dual trace differential is interesting - would this be contributed from differentials in compression and decompression of the right and left channels or something else?


Are you able to take multiple samples, say 10 over an extended duration and superimpose them all and average them together?

Just curious about the vibratory motion and average energy lost there.

Cheers,

[gotoluc]

Thanx Gotoluc,

The dual trace differential is interesting - would this be contributed from differentials in compression and decompression of the right and left channels or something else?


Are you able to take multiple samples, say 10 over an extended duration and superimpose them all and average them together?

Just curious about the vibratory motion and average energy lost there.

Cheers,

Hi Harvey,

yes, I think it's caused by the left and right channel differences of room sounds but as you can see they both meet at the peek of the reed relay sound which is most likely the frequency the circuit is oscillating at.

I don't think I can do much more with this. I was just curios of the frequency the reed reached. I'm quite sure Michael is at the maximum frequency the reed can go to. In fact I was surprised how high it is.

So what do you think of the comment I added about the battery possibly causing this voltage rise since it is below its normal operating range?

Thanks for all your time Harvey.

Luc

[Michael John Nunnerley]

program for computor

Thanks Luc and all for your comments

Luc the program you are using, where did you get it from? I found that the higher the frequency the better the voltage output, so I am looking to replace the reed with some type of transistor switch with variable frequency.

This must be of a very low power drain as I do not want to increase the circuit drain. I think that the optimum is between 6-7khz but as you say it is difficult to make the reed oscillate at this frequency without it welding itself.

The voltage input between the 48 ohm resistor and the reed is less than 1v and the other side of the reed is around 90-100v measured to ground.

Without load, "return to the battery" the AC voltage on the output secondary coil is around 170v, and when connected to the battery naturally it drops to around 23v. once this passes through the bridge this is about 38vDC going back to the battery. Naturally this sees the resistance in the battery and so is pumping back just above the actual battery voltage.

The trick is to have the higher voltage than the battery so as when it sees the resistance the extra voltage is turned into current which then gives a true charge.

The problem I have is as the voltage of the battery goes up so does the frequency change in the circuit and as so I have to move the magnet to keep it in the sweet spot for the high voltage output.

This is why I need to get away from the reed and use a transistor, anyone have a circuit for this? Harvey, any ideas?

Mike

[Joit]

Hi,
Michael
i stumbled at the same Problem, as i did play around with it.
When the Voltage from the Batterie changes, the Frequency changes too.
I was thinking about a 12V regulating Transistor like the LM78M12 or -05
I was thinking about a turnout with a Diode into a Cap, what gets loaded there,
and provide the Volt for the Transistor,
and the Transistor make a stable output.
But using Caps is allways uuh-hu for me,
Not sure, how much it do affect it, when you stick the Cap together to the Minus.

[gotoluc]

Thanks Luc and all for your comments

Luc the program you are using, where did you get it from? I found that the higher the frequency the better the voltage output, so I am looking to replace the reed with some type of transistor switch with variable frequency.

This must be of a very low power drain as I do not want to increase the circuit drain. I think that the optimum is between 6-7khz but as you say it is difficult to make the reed oscillate at this frequency without it welding itself.

The voltage input between the 48 ohm resistor and the reed is less than 1v and the other side of the reed is around 90-100v measured to ground.

Without load, "return to the battery" the AC voltage on the output secondary coil is around 170v, and when connected to the battery naturally it drops to around 23v. once this passes through the bridge this is about 38vDC going back to the battery. Naturally this sees the resistance in the battery and so is pumping back just above the actual battery voltage.

The trick is to have the higher voltage than the battery so as when it sees the resistance the extra voltage is turned into current which then gives a true charge.

The problem I have is as the voltage of the battery goes up so does the frequency change in the circuit and as so I have to move the magnet to keep it in the sweet spot for the high voltage output.

This is why I need to get away from the reed and use a transistor, anyone have a circuit for this? Harvey, any ideas?

Mike

Hi Michael,

I replied in your STEAP topic: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post73054

[Harvey]

Thanks Luc and all for your comments

Luc the program you are using, where did you get it from? I found that the higher the frequency the better the voltage output, so I am looking to replace the reed with some type of transistor switch with variable frequency.

This must be of a very low power drain as I do not want to increase the circuit drain. I think that the optimum is between 6-7khz but as you say it is difficult to make the reed oscillate at this frequency without it welding itself.

The voltage input between the 48 ohm resistor and the reed is less than 1v and the other side of the reed is around 90-100v measured to ground.

Without load, "return to the battery" the AC voltage on the output secondary coil is around 170v, and when connected to the battery naturally it drops to around 23v. once this passes through the bridge this is about 38vDC going back to the battery. Naturally this sees the resistance in the battery and so is pumping back just above the actual battery voltage.

The trick is to have the higher voltage than the battery so as when it sees the resistance the extra voltage is turned into current which then gives a true charge.

The problem I have is as the voltage of the battery goes up so does the frequency change in the circuit and as so I have to move the magnet to keep it in the sweet spot for the high voltage output.

This is why I need to get away from the reed and use a transistor, anyone have a circuit for this? Harvey, any ideas?

Mike

Here is the problem Mike, you will not find anything that can give you such a sharp increase in resistance as that reed does. In other words, it will be the fastest transition from closed to open as any device available. The problem with all reeds, is the closure, the open to closed. That mechanical operation is slow, and there is bouncing involved as well. But your circuit demands that extremely sharp 'opening' of the contacts as this is what causes the instantaneous inductive collapse. Few transistors can match this timing and the resultant BEMF amplitude as a result.

Your magnet is adjusting the sensitivity of the reed. You may be able to do the same thing with a voltage controlled pot in series with the coil. The problem you will have with this arrangement, is that the curves may not be properly aligned.

There are many ways to offer frequency control and feedback including PLL type circuits, but I think we are trying to keep your circuit as simple as is practical. As silly as this may sound, a small DC servo motor like those used in RC toys may work here. You could adjust the curve by changing the leverage factor of the control arm that moves the magnet.

Cheers.

[witsend]

Hi,
Michael
i stumbled at the same Problem, as i did play around with it.
When the Voltage from the Batterie changes, the Frequency changes too.
I was thinking about a 12V regulating Transistor like the LM78M12 or -05
I was thinking about a turnout with a Diode into a Cap, what gets loaded there,
and provide the Volt for the Transistor,
and the Transistor make a stable output.
But using Caps is allways uuh-hu for me,
Not sure, how much it do affect it, when you stick the Cap together to the Minus.

Hi Joit. Cannot tell you how chuffed to see you back here. We lost you for a while there and I, for one, missed having you around.

[Joit]

Hi witsend,
sorry i am not back, just pop in, but i am a still reader here.
I still have to much other Things to do, and still cant work on this, what i want.
Right now, i made a coil, where i posted a Vid about, but what is seems widely ignored.
good for me, saves time to explain it more. :P
Right now i did rewound the inner core from it, and wonder with it,
why i charge up a second battery with it, and even the Sourcebatt gets a load,
Well something i do play with it, when i have time.

Else, i will try once, to make new resistor like this we have, but additional
a few windings in serie with the Resistor windings with iron wire or copperwire very close at th middle,
that it make another Field into the middle, and create push.
Just, no Time to try it, but if anyone wanna try it, Feel free to do so,
and look what will happen.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

circuit for switching

@ Harvey

Thanks Harvey for your time, Dr.Stiffler has past me a circuit, a type of colpitts.

He has stated that the steap does work as it is very similar to his ECAT circuit, I just nead to refine it a bit more, I think that is a bit like getting 9 out of 10 in science class

I need to buy some parts and I have some work to catch up on "money work" so it may be a bit before I put up a video of the circuit running only on a cap

Mike

[witsend]

Hi Guys, We're all waiting for delivery of the DSO to Fuzzy. Bored so entertained myself by doing a study of TK and MH. Hope you find it amusing.

YouTube - 20091102215507

[Joit]

Hi Guys, We're all waiting for delivery of the DSO to Fuzzy. Bored so entertained myself by doing a study of TK and MH. Hope you find it amusing.

YouTube - 20091102215507

NEAT! Anyhow, that T.K looks like a little Einstein.

[ashtweth]

Rose Rulz

Our DEAREST Rose and Aaron here
YouTube - Panacea's Free Energy Suppression production (Part 2, Segment 30 of 31)


2 minutes in guys, Rosie got some new circuit results to post soon, don worry about answering this, check out the vid tho.