Michael John Nunnerly - WOW. That is just SO VERY VERY GOOD. Very well done Mike.
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Its getting better
Well I was so excited I posted very quickly, not like me, but, it gets better.
I have just been reducing the duty cycle down and now I have reduced the circuit current draw by 0.078amps, the battery is charging up a treat, now 11.74v, still with the bulb as a load direct to the battery.
HI Johan
can not measure the charge current draw, the meter goes mad!!!!!!
I think if I had the right caps for a power supply, I think we are close to a self runner. I need a bank of 2 farad caps at 16v as Dr. Stiffler said
Keep you all posted as things develop
Mike
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TEST #16 - Battery Draw Down
Originally posted by witsend View PostHi Fuzzy. Did the analysis - finally. The average watts delivered is 7.667. Again we'll have to wait for the heat profile on that new resistor to establish any gains. I notice that the harmonic is evident EVERYWHERE. Nice stuff Fuzzy. And the battery draw down per the data seems zero? I'm intrigued that we are possibly therefore not actually getting the battery draw down rate in these numbers? Something for Harvey to work out. We need that heavyweight intellect!!!!
But what also stands out in this test is that the MOSFET is cooking? Let us know if there was anything significant in that draw down number - please Fuzzy. And THANK YOU YET AGAIN FOR SUCH IMPECCABLE DATA PRESENTATIONS.
BTW - the emailed zip number works. Maybe we could stick to this format? If it's not too much trouble. Actually managed to save the files at last. LOL
As you know with some other members ...... every time I do a test I leave the circuit running and draw down the battery's some prior to doing a re-charge for the next tests .... here is some data on Test #16 a battery draw down starting off at 3 hours "AFTER" the test was completed and went on to 13 hours "AFTER" the test was done .....
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All Images and data by a Tektronix TDS 3054C from the Tektronix Corporation
Glen
Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 12-10-2009, 07:25 PM.Open Source Experimentalist
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More And More Evidence
Fuzzy - so sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I've been trying to get back into a regular sleep pattern the most of it during our night time. LOL Am sort of getting there.
I think your results over that - was it a total of 14 hours? shows a net loss from the supply of somehing like 0.0003 watts. Not too shabby Fuzzy. My concern is that, on this last test, we're actually measuring something in the order of 7.6 watts delivered and this may be erroneous. But it's not a critical problem - as it would then indicate that we're understating advantages rather than the other way around. One obvious route of that hidden extra current may be on that split path junction that goes to the switch - on the source? Perhaps check this out? If this is negative and significant then - properly - we should be adding that to the value of the energy on the shunt.
And MICHAEL - yet again - GOLLY, and WOW. Whatever circuit you've got there - it's doing some amazing things. Can we have a schematic? Or are you still checking optimised parameters? I'd be glad to know a ball park of the actual wattage being dissipated.
I think the questions that are going to be asked by our mainstream scientists - in the hopeful event that our paper is published - is where does this extra energy come from? I've been chatting to Harvey on this. My take is that it's from Dark Matter. Dark matter and dark energy comprise 96% of the known universe - according to Michio Kaku - in consensus with Richard Ellis and Sean Caroll - from Caltech. Not sure if that's the general consensus amongst astrophysicists but will check here at our observatory during the course of the day. My model proposes that this same energy is responsible for the 'bound condition' of all amalgams of matter that we see. In other words we compromise the 'bound' condition of our inductive circuit components and - subject to a closed circuit path - can use this to replenish the supply and heat the load - both. Therein lies the gain. So. It's not so much stored energy - except that it's there. It's also 'liberated energy' which gets to work in that resonating frequency.
GREAT STUFF GUYS. IT'S ALL REALLY EXCITING STUFF.
Last edited by witsend; 12-11-2009, 04:50 AM.
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After 14hrs
Hi Rosemary
Well I let it run over night and the battery is at where it started, 11.72v running.
Now the battery is 12v @ 4.2ah
the current draw is 0.602amps
the total run time is 14hrs
therefore 0.602 X 14 =8.428amps consumed and the battery is as started, lost nothing!!!! well its rest voltage now is 11.78v and before the test 12.28v so there has been a drop of 0.5v in 14hrs, but we have consumed
8.428 X 11.72 = 98.77watts in 14hrs = 7.05w/hrs
The battery can only deliver 4.2/14 X 12 = 3.6w/hrs
Therefore the other 3.45w/hrs has come from another source
I have checked all my data and it is correct
I would love Harvey to put a word in here.
Rosemary I will post the circuit when I have drawn it out. It is the STEAP circuit with some component value changes and it is driving a transformer and I am recharging the battery from the secoundary of that. The load bulb is directly off the battery.
Imagin if the circuit was made bigger and an inverter was used off the battery!!!!!!!!! you can see where I am going
Mike
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MIKE - WOW. I've got to read this again and again and again.
REALLY EXCITING STUFF. This is exactly what Harvey was looking for. I think he wanted to see the way a battery functioned when it was stressed.
Golly Michael. You're romping home here. I had a shrewd idea that you'd get there quick. I think we all want to see that schematic. SUCH EXCITEMENT.
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can't make a video
Hi all
I wanted to make a video of this working and at the moment I can't.
When I disconnect the positive charge return on the battery to show the DC voltage that is going to the battery, all electronic things block, including my telephone. My daughter had the idea of filming with my mobil phone.
I have a video camera but I need to charge the battery, maybe that will work.
Well it was just to show the battery voltage with and without the return charge and with the 5watt bulb load.
Without the charge it drops fast and when I conect it again up she goes. There is 830vdc going to the battery via some caps in parallel with the battery.
Tuning is the trick and I have found out that Dr. Stiffler was right, it is around 4.3khz and in my case 4.1845khz 50% duty. It is not the max voltage output as I can get way over 1000v on the input to the bridge.
I need someone to replicate this, I will post the circuit within the hour.
Mike
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The circuit at the moment
Hi all
This is the circuit at the moment and used for these tests.
The phasing transformer should have a reasonable gauge of wire, the one I am using is a vertical type but a horizontal type should make no difference. The best ones are from the older TV's as they are of a heavier gauge.
Use caps with voltages as shown or higher, there is very high voltage flowing around this circuit even before the output transformer (you have been warned)
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Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View PostHi Rosemary
Well I let it run over night and the battery is at where it started, 11.72v running.
Now the battery is 12v @ 4.2ah
the current draw is 0.602amps
the total run time is 14hrs
therefore 0.602 X 14 =8.428amps consumed and the battery is as started, lost nothing!!!! well its rest voltage now is 11.78v and before the test 12.28v so there has been a drop of 0.5v in 14hrs, but we have consumed
8.428 X 11.72 = 98.77watts in 14hrs = 7.05w/hrs
The battery can only deliver 4.2/14 X 12 = 3.6w/hrs
Therefore the other 3.45w/hrs has come from another source
I have checked all my data and it is correct
I would love Harvey to put a word in here.
Rosemary I will post the circuit when I have drawn it out. It is the STEAP circuit with some component value changes and it is driving a transformer and I am recharging the battery from the secoundary of that. The load bulb is directly off the battery.
Imagin if the circuit was made bigger and an inverter was used off the battery!!!!!!!!! you can see where I am going
Mike
Apart from that conservative view, I would say you have succeeded in tapping into the extra energy proposed in Rosemary's Model.
"Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor
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Only One Battery
Originally posted by Harvey View PostHi Mike, I've been busy with my Dad here this week - sorry haven't had much time to look close at things. At a glance, it looks as though your calculations are right. Skeptics will look for a way to claim power is being supplied from the PWM via the gate of the FET. It will be a weak claim especially with the blocking diode there - but we all must understand the antenna effect on the battery negative - i.e. single ended power transfer at RF frequencies by pumping the ground. Until we fully isolate the secondary sources electrically (your PWM and Rosemary's Timer Battery) the skeptics will grasp at that straw.
Apart from that conservative view, I would say you have succeeded in tapping into the extra energy proposed in Rosemary's Model.
I am only using one battery to supply all, so they can not say that it is coming from another source.
I think I have found an interesting phenomina. If I remove the load on the circuit, that is the recharging, the energy produced seems to look for another place to discharge that energy, be it my computor, my mobile phone etc but only when the recharge link is broken
I need some BIG caps, I think I will have to make them, any suggestions of where I can get a design on the net, around 5 farads should do it.
I'm not sure that the battery will stand up to this type of charge.
May be if I put a blocking diode on the battery so as the charge circuit will go straight back to the circuit input via a good bank of caps. The thing is the voltage open circuit on the DC side of the bridge is over 1000v!!!!!! when I go to connect the battery to this there is quite a big power spark and the voltage shoots up on the battery some 400mv when a load is on the battery other than the circuit.
Much to test here, would like someone with the parts to replicate this, the only thing not too common is the phasing transformer which should be of a reasonable gauge of wire, vertical or horizontal, they both work,and old TV's are a good supply for these.
Now I must try to make a video today if the circuit will let me.
Mike
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No video, but photos
Hi all sorry no video as my camera does not like the frequency I am using, instead some photos.
Please note the neon on the cap which is in series with the return to the battery.
In this test i changed to an air core transformer, gives a lower amp draw, 417ma.
More to come
Mike
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Mike - this is MUSIC my friend. I cannot tell you how heartened I am at these results. And they seem to be coming in fast and furious. I think that Fuzzy has done something wonderful. He's shown us it can be done - and you guys are now just doing it and in so many different ways.
Such excitement here Mike. Really very well done. I keep reading your posts - over and over. But I'll leave Harvey to make comments. It has the merit of being less biased than my own.
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Over 3watts more than putting in
Hi all
And thanks for your comment Rosemary.
There is one thing that I am sure of and that is I am getting 3watts or more out than i am putting in.
Now the thing is how to build this up to a usable circuit to power an average house of lets say 8kw, a bit high but needed for those surges. Any ideas, anyone???????
Maybe parallel circuits with a solar charge during the day!!!!!!!!!! incase there is a draw down more than the charge.
Mike
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