COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie

[witsend]

henieck - just seen your answer. Am exhausted. I'll read it and post tomorrow. Thanks for all the input. You've been amazingly tolerant considering the convictions.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

EDIT - have just read through the post. You've got the answer there henieck. I happen to know that you've worked on this most of the day. Have a good night's rest and then read your own post again tomorrow. Your results are there. For some reason we're stuck on that return cycle. But I'll tackle this again in the morning. You're a hard nut to crack henieck - but so am I. I just want you to know that I think your experimental aptitudes and your general applications are just way up there. It's been my pleasure. I hope I have not exasperated too thoroughly.

[FuzzyTomCat]

Hi Rosemary,

I've read now several times that you have had problems posting and editing your posts and it has perplexed me why ...... and after reading you came from The Naked Scientists Science Discussion, Question & Answer Forum which is a very interesting web site, and the comment you gave Mark, it dawned on me what the problem was possibly.

The Naked Scientist uses SMF 1.1 | SMF © 2005, Simple Machines LLC software and Energetic Forum vBulletin® Version 3.6.4 which as you know are two totally different animals.

If you are using the "Quick Reply" button icon this is similar to a "Twitter" response and is very limited, difficult to edit and little options.

If you use the "Post Reply" button icon you get all the options available so to say "the full meal deal" including the smilies.

If you want to edit the vBulletin has a http:// cache that is about 5-10 minuets long so at this screen ......



use the "go advance" button icon and you will end up with ......

with full control and all options ......

I hope this helps and if you may have any vBulletin software questions just PM me so as to keep this thread going strong and on topic

Best Wishes,
Glen

[witsend]

Thanks FuzzyTomCat. You've taken away my excuses and I will never again be able to blame the system. Truth is I get carried away while I'm typing and do some extraordinary things with these various posting and preview options. Then I interrupt the writing to review a post and I can find myself just about anywhere on the internet. It's all very suprising. I think it's a kind of IQ test, and needless to say I fail. Never met you at naked scientists forum. Wish I had.

I have definitely fallen in love with the portrait. Absolutely cannot argue with all that evident intellect. And the glasses!! Just so cool.

Many thanks for the lesson in how to deal with these forum tools. When are we going to hear you set up an experiment? We're struggling with volunteers here. We need some of that detached 'savoir faire'. Are you up for it?

[FuzzyTomCat]

Hi Rosemary,

Thanks so much for the very kind words ..... I'm glad you like my avatar he's a stray I found on the internet and fell for him ..... just love cats and I wear glasses so he fit well

Also I am collecting some parts for your circuit and have the batterys already and looking at some "Omite" resistors then saw Groundloop's PC board he has created, which is really nice work. I have several projects here at Energetic and trying to budget them all, but it's slowly coming together.

[Allcanadian]

@henieck

yes, but the establishing of the inductor’s field does not happen for free- like you see it. Search around that some more…

Are you absolutely certain of this so called "fact" you have just stated or is this just something you have read or been taught in school?. I want you to think very hard and careful on this question before you give me an answer. I am not asking if you have performed the normal thoughtless repetitive tasks and found that what you believe is true in most cases, I am asking have you purposely performed actual experiments to prove for yourself that NO energy was required to form the inductors magnetic field. You see these are two very different things, to prove your thoughts wrong is just as important as proving your thoughts right but proving ones thoughts wrong requires a fresh perspective and self-reflection as well as being hard on ones own ego the other does not.
Regards
AC

[Aaron]

over 1.0 cop system

- sounds nice. I am searching for such a relatively easily replicable system. Can you advise something of that sort, or anything that has already showed proven, unusually high COP or over unity?

- that is precisely right. The question is if we can tap into the "zipon" field the same way as we do to transfer heat.

For example, in a Bedini energizer, 90% can be easily recovered in a secondary battery but what most people seem to want to ignore is that if the wheel is showing 30% in mechanical work, that is 120% or COP 1.2.

Many people already have over 1.0 COP with Bedini systems, they just don't know how to recognize or measure what they have. They only consider what they are measuring in the batteries while ignoring the mechanical.

Even without mechanical, some of us have gotten more work in joules out of the recovery battery than left the power battery. I've done it with a solid state oscillator and I've done it with a 10 speed wheel version that charged caps and discharged the caps to recovery battery with mechanical switch.

My friend achieved even better results when his was coupled to an earth battery setup.

Here is a self-sustaining oscillator I showed last year - I add a bit to the caps at the start, then it drops down and the voltage comes back up by the earth rods.
YouTube - Self Running Bedini Oscillator

Anyway, we must first be willing to expand our "frame of reference", which is the first step to power if we are going to be able to see the possibility first, in my opinion.

Good luck with your tests and discussion on these other technologies can be had in the other threads.

[Aaron]

IRFPG50 source

I ordered a few IRFPG50 mosfets from here:

IRFPG50 - eBay (item 370108354282 end time Aug-02-09 23:49:36 PDT)

$17.40 USD for 3 with shipping from Hong Kong to the U.S.

Pretty good price. Mouser requires a minimum purchase of over 400 for this item. Anyway, they have more if anyone wants them.

I CANNOT vouch for this dealer on Ebay. I'll find out how reliable they are when I have the parts in my hand. But if anyone wants to order some at their own risk - it is at least somewhat secure because of Ebay/Paypal, which have always worked great for me.

I cannot find a wire wound resistor matching the one described in the experiments. So I just ordered a 10 ohm wire wound ceramic hollow core resistor with a 50 watt rating...about 16mm diameter and 100mm long. A bit smaller than the one called for but I'll use that until I can find one for a decent price.

I did find this
D100K10RE
It is the closest I can find but is $20 and I might get that one later.

[FuzzyTomCat]

I did find this
D100K10RE
It is the closest I can find but is $20 and I might get that one later.

Hi Aaron,

That looks just like what I was thinking .... but from a old time manufacture Ohmite: 210 Series Dividohm Vitreous Enamel Adjustable Power Resistors

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I have just made a new video that maybe of interest in this topic. However, I do not wish to change the direction of this topic, so would feel better if you post your comments about this circuit in its original topic: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post59809

However if Rosemary is comfortable with discussions of the circuit here! then that would be at her discretion.

Video link: YouTube - Effect of Recirculating BEMF to Coil test 3

Thanks

Luc

[henieck]

Your results are there. For some reason we're stuck on that return cycle. But I'll tackle this again in the morning.

- all I know is that my battery is lacking 34000J and I also know, that what this circuit has done I can make equally well and much simpler using just 18000J. I don’t have to see phantom current and wonder whether I should add or subtract its value. In the end of the day am just interested in either fuller battery or warmer resistor – not that much in the next phase of the experiment – in tweaking my logic now.

I just want you to know that I think your experimental aptitudes and your general applications are just way up there. It's been my pleasure.

- thank you very much. You are an interesting case too

I hope I have not exasperated too thoroughly.

- no, no - for me it is just fun, I don't take it too seriously. But you have invested so much time, reputation and other resources in it - that in case all it is false - you will have real psychological issue here to deal with. I have asked you many technical questions so far- but there is one more I wish you could address here. This is the one I'd like very much to see the answer to:

I presume you are very sure of your thesis. Q: are you sure in sufficient extent to be slightly not so sure about it? Think about it - if you are so sure -you can probably, without risking anything, become not sure of it. Others could probably even doubt it - can you do any of that?

[PulseFuelNerd]

Known Capacitor Wattage & Caloric Box Data: RA -vs- Control Test

If we use a charged capacitor as our power source on the front side.
And a thermal measured box on the back side.

We can use the same cap on the RA circut heater and and then on a traditional control circut heater. Identical source and result allow us to isolate the difference of circuits in measured thermal output.

What do you think?

A wattage stored in the cap is easy to recharge for both tests, and can be calculated with great accuracy if needed.

The results from both tests, will lessen the need for critical (and apparently argueable) power measuring methods and equipment. A simple thermometer tells all, as the data is recorded over time.

[mklimesh]

Wire Wound Power Resistor

This is the closest I've come up with, the length is right.


L100J10R - OHMITE RESISTOR, 10 OHM, 100 WATT, FIXED TUBULAR, WIREWOUND, +-5% TOLERANCE

Mike Klimesh

[Aaron]

ohmite

Hi Aaron,

That looks just like what I was thinking .... but from a old time manufacture Ohmite: 210 Series Dividohm Vitreous Enamel Adjustable Power Resistors

Wow - I think that is almost the same. The mouser one is actually an Ohmite brand as well. Looks like that is the mfg. page you show. I'll wait until after I play with the one I ordered and may get that one.

[witsend]

I've woken up to a whole string of new posts and nothing from TinselKoala. It's got to be an auspicious start to the day. Here's hoping.

FuzzyTomCat - I'm also obliged to view the world from behind some corrective lenses. Am as blind as a bat.

Gotoluc - feel free to reference anything you want - with the proviso that its to do with efficient energy delivery - then what could be better? In any event, it's not my thread but Aaron's and I can't talk for him. But I'd bet my shirt on it that he'd be happy. Certainly I am.

PulseFuelNerd - regarding the cap. As mentioned I have never tested with this, and - truth is, have no idea how it works. But Peter has proposed it as a better return. I would just remind you that as a gauge of extra energy being both generated and returned to the system - that flyback to a battery is pretty good. But I'm no expert. And I must trust you guys to sort it out. I can only ever comment on my own experiment. It's absolutely all I know.

But such great stuff to read. It's so encouraging to see all the progress.

[witsend]

Allcanadian - how nice to see your contribution. Your point is good. I think we all tend to tread the path that's been forged - and rarely venture out on a detour. The truth is the detour may often be a shortcut. At it's least - it'll give a change to the scenery.

I was never 'schooled' in science so I had no idea of that 'well trodden path'. My only view, by comparison is that detour. But it'll be wonderful when more people walk it because - I can testify to the fact that from here - things look good. Really good. The early morning light on a really grand vista.