COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie | Part 2

[witsend]

Aaron I'll look forward to seeing the video. Right now I need sleep. But I'm posting, just for general interest a new analogy of current flow. May help you see what I'm trying to show as current flow. It was written for a colleague. Hope it helps.

So here's what I see happening. Man A has too many blue cannon balls in his house. He wants more red. If he can push those cannon balls around an alley he can organise it that they come back red. So he does just that. He finds a path - pushes the cannon balls through that path and they eventually roll around back to his own house and they're now painted red. He's actually looking for a precise balance of blue and red. He keeps pushing until he gets this.

But he does this with a certain amount of subterfuge. His path (circuit copper wiring) is also full of blue and red cannon balls - equally dispersed. So his own blue cannon balls simply knock the circuit's blue cannon balls out of his path. Man A is definitely the stronger. He does this replacement so quickly that no-one really notices a difference. Except that where he's kicked them out - those blue cannon balls just stay in the general area. Then as these cannon balls keep rolling they eventually reach another home where there are also only blue cannon balls - this being the resistor. Here through happenstance is a home that has the same problem. Just way too much blue. This belongs to Man B. And Man B can do nothing much to change that condition because they're glued in place. But that glue is absolutely no match for Man A. He kicks out as much blue as he needs and continues to forge on through that house. Those cannon balls that have been expelled from Man B's house also simply 'hang around' outside the house. And then Man A gets back on path, and eventually he simply opens his own back door and lets his cannon balls back in. Now they're red.

The problem at Man B's house though is extreme. By kicking out all those blue cannon balls the balance of the cannon balls in his house - neatly arranged in lines, has been disturbed. They roll free of that glue and bump together and get hot and the hotter they get the bigger they get. The only orderly event is that path that Man A is using. Here the balls are still lined up in a path. And they're moving straight through his house. The rest of the glued balls are OFF THEIR MOORINGS - CHAOTIC. His house is on fire.

Then suddenly Man A finds his path is interrupted. No way - no path to force out any more of those blue. At the same time Man B sees a gap. If he's quick he could now send out his own blue cannon balls and provided he finds a path he too could change his blue to red - and then, with luck - he'll also get that happy balance of colour. He finds the path by borrowing the same path that Man A used. But he needs to send his balls in the opposite direction. So. His balls come back into that same path, that same channel. And right now Man B is now definitely the stronger. He's at least as strong as Man A. So he can send his cannon balls rolling with the same force that first kicked them out of contention. They race through the path - making very little difference to the red and blue balls in the path - in that circuit wire. But then the balls come to Man A's house. Unfortunately Man A immediately sees that his preferred colour scheme is now lost. Blue now is again dominant. Man B is still in the ascendency. He keeps going. Still the same path until he finds a gate (MOSFET's body diode). He makes a small detour here through this new path and then his cannon balls roll on until they get back to his own home. Back to the far side of the resistor. And they're now the right colour. They're red. He's slowly establishing that preferred colour theme.

But before he can quite change that colour back - rearrange those balls that are off their moorings, Man A finds his path again. Now Man A is again the stronger. And the cycle is repeated.

I've never tried this analogy before. Let me know if it works. The point is that Man B needs to reverse the flow. And by so doing - by going back through the battery - Man A's home, he recharges that supply. Mainstream cannot argue a gain. What they see as 'stored energy' in the resistor - is definitely strong enough to recharge the battery. This is what our measurements prove. Therein is the gain. The heat signatures at the load are inevitably greater than the sum of the energy discharged from the supply. This goes to the gullet of the argument with mainstream concepts.

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[witsend]

I take it that the cannon ball analogy didn't work. LOL. Sorry about that. I'll try a different analogy. What it actually needs is illustrations but that will need to wait until I've learned how to take photos and upload them. Next week should do it.

Here's another analogy. Imagine in your mind's eye strings of zipons. They're spherical and one half is blue and the other half is red. The reds face east and the blues face west. They join up in a string red to blue. The east facing reds are just too many. The balance in the field requires some strings where the reds face west and the blues face west. It needs an equal dispersion of this. Too many reds facing east and charge balance is disturbed.

Now. In your minds eye - take a line of these zipons. Reds facing east are always reds facing east. But now put that line in a circle. Now half the reds are facing east and half the reds facing west. That's a state of balance. That's what the current flow manages when it completes it's path through a circuit. All it's done is that it's formed an orbit or a circle. One half of the reds now face east and one half now face west. Then - when it goes back into that amalagm, that battery acid, it still goes back and joins up those atoms. But when it joins up it can keep changing the reds to face west until it's got enough. Again. It takes the balance in charge of that full circle to introduce an alternate charge. It needs this alternate charge because it came from a position of imbalanced charge. It wants to get as many east facing reds and west facing reds. The minute it does this - by completing an orbit through a circuit it is able to 'rearrange' its 'spin' - or it's red east facing charge. Again. It does this by forging a path through a circuit. All it's done by moving through that circuit is that it's completed an orbit.

This is because the reds are always reds. The blues are always blues. They cannot 'swap' places. But they can then join up again - inside the battery acid - that liquid amalgam - through that 'back door' - with a different spin or justification. And then they can change the direction of their 'spin' as required. They can keep adding west facing reds until they've managed enough to have exactly the same number of both colours - both charges. Then the charge imbalance at the source is changed. The atoms in the battery acid have not changed. The arrangement of their molecules has been varied. And this has managed to NEUTRALISE the charge imbalance. - And as a courtesy to our American readers - to NEUTRALIZE the charge imbalance.


I'm struggling here guys.

[witsend]

And while I'm thinking about it - just another point. Voltage and current flow. You can always have current flow provided you first have a voltage because the voltage is the measure of imbalanace. But to get current flow you first need a conductive and/or inductive path. Else voltage can discharge but it cannot 'flow' back to the source. The difference is this. The voltage that is measured is always in a transitional phase and it's primary object is to return to its source with an alternate justification or charge. But it needs to return to the source. If it can't then it finds other material to disperse to or it just sits there waiting for the opportunity to disperse. It's in a transitional phase. We exploit this to do work.

And when current and voltage are measured 'simultaneously' on a circuit then, in terms of this model, they literally are concurrent. Voltage measured around a circuit are simply the results of extruded fields that have been displaced by the fields of 'current' from the source. So. In terms of the model there is no such thing as voltage 'preceding' current. On our circuit, for example, the two are concurrent. Where voltage does 'precede' current is when it is simply a measure of a source imbalance without the circuit material to induce current flow.

[witsend]

Here's a new one for the books. I phone my service provider to complain that my emails are not getting to academics and theirs' are not getting to me. I speak to a gentleman and explain the nature of the complaint. He asks me to send an email to those academics and to copy him. I do so. ALL emails go through without any hinderance. I then resend the copy of the letter that I want to get to get to an academic and it's returned. Address unknown.

That's the start. Then the service provider's computer bombs - he is no longer able to access his cursor. He reboots. He finally gets into the internet and then the phone line is cut dead. Such an unfortunate series of co-incidences. I'm wondering if there is some 'high level' hacking at play. It seems that there's a high probability that my emails are being 'lost' - my phone is being monitored - and, for the record - I no longer use my normal computer at all. Paranoia settling in all over the place. I've now gone back to the service provider. Guess what? I can no longer talk to the gentleman to whom I complained. There's no record of my previous complaint. NEW EDIT. THEY'VE GOT RECORD. Fortunately also, I still have copies of the emails I sent him. Golly.

FOR THE CONCERNED PARTY HERE - A FULL INVESTIGATION IS NOW UNDERWAY BY MY SERVICE PROVIDER.

And co-incidences keep multiplying. Just spoke to the secretary at the office of the academic to ask her to try and resend the correspondence. Guess what? Her computer just crashed as she tried this. Golly.

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[b4FreeEnergy]

Here's a new one for the books. I phone my service provider to complain that my emails are not getting to academics and theirs' are not getting to me. I speak to a gentleman and explain the nature of the complaint. He asks me to send an email to those academics and to copy him. I do so. ALL emails go through without any hinderance. I then resend the copy of the letter that I want to get to get to an academic and it's returned. Address unknown.

That's the start. Then the service provider's computer bombs - he is no longer able to access his cursor. He reboots. He finally gets into the internet and then the phone line is cut dead. Such an unfortunate series of co-incidences. I'm wondering if there is some 'high level' hacking at play. It seems that there's a high probability that my emails are being 'lost' - my phone is being monitored - and, for the record - I no longer use my normal computer at all. Paranoia settling in all over the place. I've now gone back to the service provider. Guess what? I can no longer talk to the gentleman to whom I complained. There's no record of my previous complaint. NEW EDIT. THEY'VE GOT RECORD. Fortunately also, I still have copies of the emails I sent him. Golly.

FOR THE CONCERNED PARTY HERE - A FULL INVESTIGATION IS NOW UNDERWAY BY MY SERVICE PROVIDER.

And co-incidences keep multiplying. Just spoke to the secretary at the office of the academic to ask her to try and resend the correspondence. Guess what? Her computer just crashed as she tried this. Golly.

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Well don’t trust anybody and do it the really old way. Print out your documents and hand-carry them to the destination. (Only possible of course if it’s close to you I know) Make sure you can look the destination in the eyes when you hand it over!

Invite a local reporter with a camera and do send those emails again. Let him put everything on record and bring it out!
What is this??!!

[ashtweth]

its been happening since Nathan subbfield (before Tesla) its called INTERFERENCE.

Rose is you CC me and tell me what you need uploaded i can do it.

Ash

[b4FreeEnergy]

its been happening since Nathan subbfield (before Tesla) its called INTERFERENCE.

Rose is you CC me and tell me what you need uploaded i can do it.

Ash

Ok but ‘who’ is doing that? It has to be possible to trace the software doing it to a certain location or sender. If they can do it, we can do it as well. You should expect that now that we are prepared we can set up something which will ‘catch’ them next time they’ll try to pull this stunt off again. I any case we should make way more noise about it! The problem is that ‘decent’ people don’t believe you and the rest keeps quiet about it! I’m so sick of this bull- s h i t! I can't even write "s h i t" without it having automatically replaced by '*' !!

[witsend]

its been happening since Nathan subbfield (before Tesla) its called INTERFERENCE.

Rose is you CC me and tell me what you need uploaded i can do it.

Ash

Many thanks Ash. I'm not sure what I need uploaded here though. Unless you've got the software that let's one track a 'hacker'? That would be good. But right now I think the problem is resolved. The secretary has just emailed me the required correspondence at 2.00 pm our time. We neither of us know what the difficulty was that prevented this before now. I've also, since Tuesday this week, tried to send her some files per email. To no avail. But - right now - all blocks between us seem to have been lifted. I'm still awaiting a report from the service provider. They're going to 'dig deep'. I'm to hear from them by the latest 4.pm tomorrow. I'll keep you guys posted.

We've got one more academy to check where I couldn't email. But I won't be able to do that until Monday as they're closed right now. Two new Professors on board to do the accreditation - when and as we get it together - and I cannot email either. But hopefully that problem has also gone. In this instance I had to email a third party that knew the two of them and could reach them. He simply forwarded my email.

Right now I've spent the entire afternoon sorting out a mix up on my bank accounts. I don't want to go into details - but it has simply NOT been my week. The bank acount mix up though seems to be a simple error. No conspiracies involved. But the PANIC! One immediately assumes the worse. Anyway the good news is that it's FRIDAY. Thank you God.

And B? Ash is right. It does seem to be par for the course. I know that the most of the collaborators had some pretty odd incidents. And I don't think anyone on these forums doubt that 'things' are afoot. I know that the guys who fix my computers - the one of them actually worked for my internet provider some time back. He KNOWS FOR A FACT that Government and quasi Government officials can ask providers to make emails available to them. Nothing secret there. But it's usually in the investigation of criminals for Goodness sake. I'm no criminal. But it's the obvious phone monitoring together with that extraordinary facility with which they access computers that blows me away. Just think how many computers are available at an internet service provider! Then think how they can access just one of all those hundreds. That's got to be 'high level'. And it would have to breach some pretty weighty firewalls. That's pretty jolly amazing - IF it's what's happened. Right now all I KNOW is that it seems that whoever is reading my emails also has access to my phone. I'm just kicking at the sense of violation. My relief is that it's nothing to do with the bank mixup. That's at least something.

Btw I'm trying to find out where to report the phone problem. Still routing around for the right department. IT'S SO TEDIOUS

[witsend]

I've finally got feedback from my service provider. Seems the problem is more complex than I realised. Outgoing mail goes through our national network - Telkom. Only my incoming mail uses my service provider. Not sure why. Notwithstanding which, they are entirely satisfied that they have never even seen sundry post that the universities state have been sent me. Under normal circumstances they would have seen this as returned. NO RECORDS AT ALL. The actual concern is that the problem may not even be at Telkom but that it may be some kind of interference from within the IT departments of the campuses concerned. But my own service provider assure me that there is ABSOLUTELY NO BLOCK of any kind at all. They are legally prevented from doing any such. But I'm to hear from Management on Monday with a full written report.

The gentleman that I spoke to is advising me to escalate the problem at the IT departments at the universities as well. The good news is that it is ILLEGAL EVER to interfere with any emails from anyone for any reason at all. At least I have the law on my side.

However, they've advised me to check with Telkom as they control my outgoing mail and they'll also give me the appropriate division to contact. Hopefully they'll also be able to sort out the 'line tap'. So the hunt continues. And B. I'm going to take your advice. The next time this happens I will ensure that I get a reporter here and get everything duly recorded and published. If it's black ops then I intend to expose it. So. I'm fighting fit and I intend seeing this through.

Ash - can you trace a 'hacker' on my system from your end? Or do I need my own software? If so, tell me how to do this please.



edit B. I've sent you a PM.

[b4FreeEnergy]

Security

Well I sure hope you manage to catch and expose whoever is trying to interfere or hamper your work. Make it immediately worth it for them! Maybe you know a reporter and you can already contact him and have a little chat as kind of preparation. He or she might be interested to make a story for the newspaper (the bigger the better) and might be prepared to already dig a little deeper. Sjalom, B.

[witsend]

Data No Longer Available To Open Source

I see another misdirection and untruths of the facts here .... you still have access to all the data in one POST #265 here in this thread I left until the problem with the general public has access to the "Mosfet Heater Circuit" thread which is not something I can't correct.

This new thread is something Aaron has set up and he has to fix for the guests and general public "NOT" me, if you want it done faster please contact him as it is out of my control.

Also there is the second place the data is available in the "Mosfet Heating Circuit" thread POST #6

I have - for the first time since this was posted - checked these links. It seems that the waveforms HAVE been deleted and the spreadsheet data is only accessed through Rapidshare. We in South Africa - cannot access Rapidshare - unless, possibly, if we PAY for it by subscribing to Rapidshare. Not even the Tektronix staff here can download this data. Could I impose on Ash to advise whether he can access the data and, if you're up for it B, could you also try. I suspect that the only 'FREE' access is to our American users. I hope I'll be proved wrong.

I'm afraid the status pertains. I can't speak for the rest of the world but certainly here, in South Africa, we do not have access to either the waveforms nor the data in these tests. This is not in the interests of Open Source.

[witsend]

Mosfet Heating Circuit Debunked

This is the behavior i am talking about. Now as for open source let me tell you some thing about this GENRE .First of all Harvey or Glen deserve more than what they received,.And i can tell you i have watched and seen this for my self, plus i experienced a portion of mis communication and questionable things my self. It has and still is a MESS.They are great engineers for the Genre and its them i will say i still TRUST. When i have asked you to desist it was for harm reduction for the Genre Rose, i hope this time you listen to what i am saying. Harvey and Glen have never had any agenda, and have a lot to give the the OPEN SOURCE, hence the other THREAD.

...Ash

Ash, I want to follow Downunder's advice here and try and make this as nonconfrontational as I can. May I ask you, therefore, to see what follows as an attempt to 'understand' more fully the stance you have taken here. In other words - look at it as 'family' trying to better understand 'family'.

Glen had unrestricted access to some very expensive Tektronix equipment. The equipment was made available on my undertaking that it would be 'well advertised'. In other words there would not only be exposure of the waveforms but these would ALL be associated with Tetronix's name. Glen undertook to ensure this and entered into a dialogue with Lisa on that basis. One enters into such arrangements on a basis of trust. There is nothing Lisa can do to prevent Glen's withdrawal of the data - but in doing so he shows that Open Source do not honour their obligations and I suspect this will put some strain on things should Open Source ever again wish to advance such a request again.

Then - with reference to their need to 'open' a new thread on the 'mosfet heating circuit' as opposed to the 'COP17 Rosemary Ainslie circuit. Glen's first test here is based on even more 'zut' equipment from Tektronix. He organised the loan. We all know that the 'fine tuning' of the circuit is required. The advantages, those waveforms, depend on some skilled knowledge. It is very easy - Glen has done it himself in his Test 4 - to 'miss the moment'. A little bit too much? too little? and the advantage disappears. Do you not find it significant that this very first test result in the 'mosfet heating circuit' shows that he as 'missed that moment'? This is then followed by some detailed analysis by Harvey stating categorically that ALL PREVIOUS TEST RESULTS were fallacious. It's as much as to say that the Tektronix DPO 3054C is INCAPABLE OF MAKING DUE AND PROPER RECORD OF THE TEST RESULTS. Now. Not only are we no longer advertising their products. We're actually trashing it.

And add to that. IF these new results are the only CORRECT AND PROPER ANALYSIS, then appropriately - the subject is now closed. Neither the Mosfet heating circuit nor the COP17 Rosemary Ainslie Circuit - work. It's all been a BIG MISTAKE. Those public companies that endorsed them, those 5 big names that are all listed on every major stock exchange in the world, THEY WERE ALL WRONG. All those engineers that worked on the circuit prior to 2002 - ALL WRONG. So IS Rosemary WRONG. So. THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO THE MOSFET HEATING CIRCUIT AS DETERMINED BY GLEN AND HARVEY.

[witsend]

A Discerning Public

I might add - that these posts should serve more than adequately - in informing the public about Glen's last tests and Harvey's analysis of these these tests - if that is a residual concern. I have no problems about informing the public on this or on anything at all. I have learned that I can depend on our public's discernment of the truth. It seems we all have a nose for this. I simply question the objectives of those final debunking tests and the motives for withdrawing the earlier evidence of benefit in the circuit. What I cannot work out yet is why? Either the circuit will be advanced with some modification in order to make it patentable or it is being forever 'debunked' as there is an ulterior motive? My intention here is to show that it works and always has. This is very much in the interests of exposing this energy source for the benefit of us all.

[b4FreeEnergy]

Hi there Rosemary, I did try to get access to Rapid share. It’s the same here, you have to do a registration and no it’s not for free but if you really wanted to have access, it’s not that expensive. What concerns you being silenced, well just continue with the team you have working on that replication and post the results when you have them. Who can get in the way of that, you have all the knowledge and expertise you need. A working 200 liter boiler with the ‘resistor’ and proving it needs much less energy than a conventional boiler would be another good thing to come up with and would be a nice story for the newspapers and that is not only the local ones. So all together, who cares about silencing if you come up with some firework results after some time. It’s not because somebody calls you a cat that you’re ‘are’ a cat if you don’t react on that and say you’re not … Cheers, B

[b4FreeEnergy]

Regarding the security on your computer, maybe this site is a good one to check how good or how bad it is. (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2)
Sjalom, B