COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie | Part 2

[b4FreeEnergy]

General question for anybody reading this, is it possible somehow to download an entire ‘thread’ in let’s say PDF-format for easy off-line reading? Some of the threads are rather long and being able to read in a PDF offline would be really convenient. Any suggestions?

[witsend]

General question for anybody reading this, is it possible somehow to download an entire ‘thread’ in let’s say PDF-format for easy off-line reading? Some of the threads are rather long and being able to read in a PDF offline would be really convenient. Any suggestions?

B - this thread is quite long - I did I quick trial. I did a 'copy all' and then pasted it onto a word doc. It took about 10 minutes to down load but it got the whole lot into word format. It should be doable. It's also quite readable. Not sure if it makes a difference but I also use an Apple. Not sure how it'll work on a normal computer.

[b4FreeEnergy]

R, ok you can copy one page like that (or at least that is what happens if I try this on my PC) But what if I want all pages of the thread? Maybe the behaviour is a little bit different on an Apple. Most probably you can make the entire energetic forum site availble off-line with some kind of tool but in that case I would still have to combine all pages together into one single document. Once this is inside Word it is of course easy to make a PDF out of it. Sjalom, B.

[ashtweth]

>their benefits are not intended for Open Source and trying to ensure that they are directed here.

Rossie, Glen and Harvey are still doing work in the other thread and helping, Harvey and Glen are still doing R and D and sharing, i prefer if we focus on one thing at a time.

Glen would not be deleting his data now and Harvey, Aaron and others would not be in another thread if things were not getting aggravated. How about for now we focus on the area of research , you wont hear from Harvey and Glen this way.

Ash

[witsend]

3) a device used or any components

ALL ARE LISTED AND ALL COMPLY TO YOUR OWN TESTS - ON RECORD

4) a simple photograph of the devices made

Simple photograph available in the very first quantum article published. That photograph organised by Quantum. Also numerous photographs available in various media publications of this device. They're in those media archives. I never took photographs. I did these tests upwards of 8 years ago. It never occurred to me that photographs were required - in the same way that I never realised that waveforms were required. Nor can I take any now as the device was dismantled when I forwarded - as a gift to the project - my own oscilloscope costing upwards of R17 000.00 - together with the temperature probes, and other meters. This was fully explained everywhere including the opening chapters of this forum - BEFORE YOU STARTED YOUR TESTS.

[Aaron]

commercialization

Thanks for the response, but I didn't mention Glen or Harvey.

I'm sure there are many people interested in doing something commercial
with this inductive heater concept if they can get the cop high enough.

[witsend]

Thanks for the response, but I didn't mention Glen or Harvey.

I'm sure there are many people interested in doing something commercial
with this inductive heater concept if they can get the cop high enough.

I do hope so. I would also stress that while the circuit isn't patentable the resistors used in applications most certainly are. They're exotic and non-standard. So EVERYONE with a flair for design. Try and get this patented but you'll need to do this with the frequency established against each design. In other words the switch and the resistor would need to be patented together so they also need to be built and tested.

[witsend]

And may I add, as a footnote, I do not think that this is going backwards. I assure you that there is a readiness to look at and manufacture this application that shows far, far more interest than has ever before been evident - here in South Africa - at least. It seems that there is a readiness to look at things and question things - that have been entirely lacking before.

Personally I think this is result of the combined efforts of forums such as this and of your own work in Panacea together with all those others. I've mentioned it before. I think there's a spreading paradigm shift and it's gaining pace exponentially. I do not think that any further attacks will have much force and effect. But I'm sorry to hear that there are still those appalling evidences come to light. Our best defense is always Open Source. That, as I see it, will be the actual 'hero' to Free Energy. This is where the real strength lies.

[witsend]

Sorry - our posts missed each other there Ash. No over unity device has ever reached capacity because mainstream are not yet on board. Trust me on this. When they finally see a device application working and then in a group - then I think there will be acknowledgement. I certainly hope so. I'm 61 years old. I do not intend to stop striving for this. I just don't have that many years left to kill my hopes here. I'd like to see this up and running before the end of the year - let alone before I die.

[ashtweth]

Rose, universities will and CAN (what security do we have) circumvent any patents ASK BEARDON Ten years later they have no device AS A RESULT OF RELYING ON UNIVERSITIES ...

And who provides their funding?
Who?

Rose your OPEN source, i want you to prove this to world. Not get some commercial suppressed heater circuit buried.Aaron is going to put himself in danger he is talented but needs to know what he is up against.

We are all for and want your name on the model and disclosure. But we need the open source community for this, Harvey and Glen deserve a chance please give it them dear. Despite you thinking other wise
YOUR FRIEND.

Ash

[ashtweth]

>Golly. I'm 5ft 9" (nearly).

And a heart of gold most times that keeps getting distorted Rose you need to learn CAPOEIRA ..height does not matter its mind and body.

>I could go further. Name One Free energy device reaching public hands - patented or unpatented. No so animal.

NOPE not one has an open source one done yet, we are working to get yours done.Bitz and pieces here with the Tesla switch may be the first, we are replicating that now and helping him

>Any commercialisation requires a working model. That's a given. And that requires research. But it does NOT prevent its commercialization and if the prospects are good then the risk to research is also a given.

Rose its spelled "commercialization " Show me one proven commercial free energy device, BUT -AGAIN DEFINE FREE ENERGY

NOT SOLD POWER I MEAN FREE ENERGY
WHAT OPEN SOURCE STANDS FOR ROSSIE

Steorn did an independent replication to try and commercialize but not to the capacity THAT black light power did (Rowan university TEST) they steorn now need grass roots. DEVELOPER LICENSES FOR SUPPORTERS.

In other words conventionally ALL BETS ARE OFF.
Can you see the same hindrances for open source?

Can you dear? can you stop open source? lets call a spade a spade here, what do you want , peopel to know your altruism and get your device TO Capacity? an ENGINEERING FACULTY TO LOOK INTO THE free ENERGY PHYSICS through open source security?

the world is controlled and you are too and living under their control, can they stop open source?NO they cant, then can stop other routes. Rose you have only kicked ass by open source PHD's are dumbed down

Ask Donny

>I have NEVER accused Aaron of anything? What are you referring to? You, Glen and Harvey? I had no idea I'd forced YOU to work elsewhere? All I know is that I've been madly defending my position since the start of this thread against attacks from Harvey and Glen. You need to tell them to stop their attacks. I don't think you can reasonably expect me not to defend myself against them? Surely?

Rose just lay off Harvey and glen please i am only saying that to help EVERY ONE

>AGAIN. I AM NOT THE ATTACKER HERE. TELL GLEN AND HARVEY TO LEAVE ME ALONE AND I WILL CERTAINLY THEN NEVER NEED TO ANSWER THEIR ALLEGATIONS. But don't tell me not to defend myself Ash. That's not fair.

Imagine Harvey YOU and glen plus Steve Aaron and me working together now..yeah sad times rose, sad times.we can still work towards this, please alter behavior Rose, we will if you do.

respectfully
Ash

[ashtweth]

I have NO IDEA what you're referring to when you say that 'boiler contractors' advance this knowledge. Of course they don't. But universities can. If I'm wrong - then time will prove it. .

rose i meant commercial applications with "boiler contracts"

Try and take a knife to a gun fight, Try it. Ask Nathan in the 1800's what happens, ask now how more organized they are. TRY it. We better have a better plan that that dear. of cause dont ask me, ask HISTORY and ASK Dr stiffler if he has experienced interference


i mean well

Ash

[witsend]

>Any commercialisation requires a working model. That's a given. And that requires research. But it does NOT prevent its commercialization and if the prospects are good then the risk to research is also a given.

Rose its spelled "commercialization " Show me one proven commercial free energy device, BUT -AGAIN DEFINE FREE ENERGY

Ash in Australia and America there seems to have been and entrenched and gross and national inability to spell - a lot to do with the unfortunate overuse of the 'ZED'. Fortunately in South African and England we still know how to spell commercialisation. LOL.

On a more serious note I define Free Energy as a 'dream'. I actually see all energy transferred precisely in line with mainstream concepts. The difference is that mainstream have overlooked a plentiful supply source that others of us have found is all.

[sucahyo]

Dr Robert Adams have resistor heating device. I think COP>17 should have something to learn from him.
http://www.aethmogen.com/pubs/app2001/toc.shtml

In 1976 I discovered the machine delivers massive heat power to an external load upwards of 600%> above input power, this power then does not register in the machine or in the line load and must therefore be calorimetrically measured.
...
A further and third source of aetheric heat energy is manifested at the mosfet. This heat is also harnessed by the heating of water. This mosfet is set inside the copper storage vessel (or calorimeter) for measurement purposes.

He also mention the importance of golden ratio for device construction.

Suggested measurement method:

[witsend]

Suchayo - apologies here. I've been drowning in the other thread and I'm out for the rest of the day. I'll get here my tonight.

Wish me luck. I'm seeing another academic this afternoon. The more on board the merrier is my motto.