COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie | Part 2

[b4FreeEnergy]

Experimentation

Guys, to be quite frank - I am actually guilty of something which I've now learned to my cost. The truth is that I hate experimentation. My love is for theory.

I love experimentation and I will build this little circuit and do the measurements necessary but I found out that in my case it is much more difficult to get my hands on a piece of Nickel-Chromium wire than it is to get a DSO with a decent bandwidth.

This is also the reason why I did not start yet and it all takes so long. I have all I need except for the wire. I got a few tips which came out to be really expensive (Close to 100€ for 10m of wire ).

If you order in the states and have it sent to Europe, customs kicks in, they want money too … But it will all fall in place in the end, a really friendly soul came to the help and I will probably have some wire eventually…

Cheers,
BIB

[witsend]

@Harvey

‘Counsels’ reading this and maybe other threads to alert you when they read that your name is used in an untruthful way??? Hallelujah!

Do you have to pay real money for that?

Maybe Rosemary is not Rosemary but somebody else pretending to be her? This is true for most of us I guess. Maybe you are not the real Harvey but one of the MIB and you have to debunk the circuit before somebody actually tries to get it on the market? Maybe I am working for the European Union and keeping an eye on what’s happening here … Maybe I’m a debunker myself but in that case, until now I didn’t do a really good job I think.

Cheers, BIB
(Bart In Black)

Hi Bart. Clearly we all suffer from some existential rather exotic identity crises. My own is profound. I'm never quite sure if I'm a benefactor or a beneficiary. LOL. It's nice to laugh again. Perhaps I take myself way too seriously.

[witsend]

I love experimentation and I will build this little circuit and do the measurements necessary but I found out that in my case it is much more difficult to get my hands on a piece of Nickel-Chromium wire than it is to get a DSO with a decent bandwidth.

This is also the reason why I did not start yet and it all takes so long. I have all I need except for the wire. I got a few tips which came out to be really expensive (Close to 100€ for 10m of wire ).

If you order in the states and have it sent to Europe, customs kicks in, they want money too … But it will all fall in place in the end, a really friendly soul came to the help and I will probably have some wire eventually…

Cheers,
BIB

Here's another interesting stat. You can get wire shipped from France to the farthest point in SA and then FLOWN back to Europe for cheaper than buying it directly in Europe. No wonder we've got problems with pollution. I'd hate to have to work out the cost in carbon pollution credits. It would prohibitive.

[Jbignes5]

Rosemary.

If you give me permission I shall take this to our University and have them and our NY energy department build test and scale it up for a commercial use. But I need your permission to do so. You will have everything you need done by professionals who are desperately looking for a clean abundant power source.
I could retain your technology rights on your behalf if you wanted me to and get you the proof you needed and the further developments that would be needed to scale this up. I could work on your behalf and submit it to our brand new green technology facility. Syracuse Center of Excellence - Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovations This is a real center filled with university and business connections and could get you the research you needed to continue this further then anything on here.
Although they have business connections I could keep that from that part and manage this to stay out of the business part to only let the university look into this circuit.
As for prior art I will start to look into this circuit to see if anything is new as for that part. It would be hard to establish that you indeed are doing something unique here. But if there is something new then this would be the avenue to take it into our academia.
As for the Theory I don't think you are seeing it all. Meaning you are seeing part of the whole as I was trying to show you earlier with my previous communications thru PM's.
I need from you permission to do all this because I don't want you to get stepped on in the process. Full credit would be preserved if you wanted.

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If you give me permission I shall take this to our University and have them and our NY energy department build test and scale it up for a commercial use.

Golly Jbigness. Of course you must take this to your university. You certainly don't need my permission. And if they'll scale and build it - HOW WONDERFUL.

But I need your permission to do so. You will have everything you need done by professionals who are desperately looking for a clean abundant power source.

I assure you there is absolutely NO NEED FOR MY PERMISSION. I had no idea that you were associated with a university. Is this New York? NY? WOW. It's all on Open Source. It's freely available technology. I'm BLOWN AWAY. I would absolutely like nothing more. Please feel free. I just can't think why this wasn't proposed before. Indeed. You must do anything you can do promote this. And at a university? That would clinch it. Golly.

I could retain your technology rights on your behalf if you wanted me to and get you the proof you needed and the further developments that would be needed to scale this up.

JB. There are absolutely NO technology rights. I assure you.

I could work on your behalf and submit it to our brand new green technology facility. Syracuse Center of Excellence - Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovations

I would prefer it that you just worked on your behalf. But I'm working on a blueprint here which you may want to emulate. I'll explain it in the next post.

This is a real center filled with university and business connections and could get you the research you needed to continue this further then anything on here.

I may have something here which could possibly benefit from such facilities. But I'll know more next week Thursday. That's on something entirely unrelated. But, in the meantime the progress of this technology to application phase is MOST desirable. And anyone who can progress this must PLEASE, PLEASE do so. And do it to your own advantage. There's more than enough benefit to go around. Just think of all those household needs for starters. There is a CRITICAL need to explore the myriad potential uses of this technology.

Although they have business connections I could keep that from that part and manage this to stay out of the business part to only let the university look into this circuit.

Actually JB, the most important part is to ensure that there's some commercial interest. It has to prove feasible as a commercial enterprise or there will not be the quick route to applications that are required. I just don't know where you've been in these threads. How could I POSSIBLY have missed you?

As for prior art I will start to look into this circuit to see if anything is new as for that part. It would be hard to establish that you indeed are doing something unique here. But if there is something new then this would be the avenue to take it into our academia.

There is absolutely NOTHING new to a switching circuit. It's as old as electricity itself. The only aspect that is NEW is the results. And the results are REQUIRED in terms of the field model. But I assure you that the circuit itself is only a really SMALL potential of this. There are many ways to 'skin this cat' and they are all viable. They just need to be more thoroughly explored.

As for the Theory I don't think you are seeing it all. Meaning you are seeing part of the whole as I was trying to show you earlier with my previous communications thru PM's.

JB - I have a partial theory. I have the bare bones or the skeleton of a structure that I believe is right. But this is not important. Physics is not based on speculation. If it is wrong - that will be determined by experts. I have reason to believe that the concepts are 'spot on'. But that's me. It's validity is something that our academics need to establish. Science is NEVER speculative. It needs to marry on many levels of evidence and I really only care that these concepts are understood and factored in. Neither you nor I are in a position to claim which 'thesis' is right or which is wrong. Only history will establish that. And that requires the unfolding of much more evidence and much more work.

I need from you permission to do all this because I don't want you to get stepped on in the process. Full credit would be preserved if you wanted.

I REALLY DO NOT WANT CREDIT. It's enough to know that it will be advanced. THANK YOU JB. WE DEFINITELY NEED THIS INPUT. I'm just so excited. I have erred GROSSLY in overlooking your potential contribution here - in the past. I simply never realised. I intend making up for that.

I AM JUST SO HAPPY WITH THIS POST OF YOURS. GOLLY. I feel jolly guilty, quite frankly, that I did not realise the advantage you could bring here. Abject apologies. I should have been more alert.

[Jbignes5]

Upon further investigation.

After reading up on BEMF collection and usage Tesla has an extensive testing in this area. And that might be where the prior art would be referenced.

What I think is really happening in your circuit is this. You make the switching go astable in a runaway form. Then reuse the pulse to charge the source while getting an extra heating of the element through micro flexing of the element by way of the pulsing magnetic field. This is the more out then in and can be proofed by the eventual breakdown of the element that you have seen.
Although this is a physical manifestation it is not a OU situation because it wears out eventually or consumes the wire. Case in point. Take a steel wire or composite wire and bend it time and time again. There will be a tremendous heat build up at the flexor point and eventually will break the wire with a continuous flexing. This is what I see happening in your setup. Although this does net a boost in the heat production in the resistive wire it is through multiple physical reasons and not some Zippons as you refer to. *Edit this is only supposition on my part and not an attack on you.*
I am not saying that this is not useful and doesn't net out more then in but you are consuming the wire at that point as the fuel. I highly doubt that this method is an open system that is usually touted in these situations and can be completely explain through conventional means.
One avenue in experimenting could be gone down with using a favorite metal of mine developed by the US Navy called NiTiNol. It is a highly flexible wire that shows no consuming of itself through the flexing but converts the motions to heat better. They use this in such things as Stints that are placed in veins that upon heating of the metal by the blood transduce the heat energy to motion or pressure holding the vein open. Certain glasses and bra's are actually made with this stuff as well to reform when heat is applied to the original shape making the item like new after being deformed. It is a quite unique metal and might just net you a superior gain if applied the right way. This way you could get the gain but not have to worry about consuming the wire since it has unique properties of being highly plastic when under heating and cooling phases. To give you a better understanding let me refer you to a link to check this out.

Shape memory alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would say to look at the ferromagnetic shape memory under the history section. You might be able to find out a way to make a motor design in this section that could use the efficient way you use in your current setup. I have little ideas as to how to use it in your current form though and maybe you might be able to incorporate it.

*Edit* Rosemary I am sorry if I did not mention my worth before but I had to make sure that you were on the up and up. Although I tried to talk to you before about my connections and my own theories i got stuck on the theories and didn't have enough time to mention my connections. I don't like to throw my weight around with this forum because it would preclude me from participating. I did so now because I do believe that you have something here. Weather it is new or not it is here and I will do my best to get this to the proper channels and allow the process to go from there."

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What I think is really happening in your circuit is this. You make the switching go astable in a runaway form. Then reuse the pulse to charge the source

Just that. No need to go further. The fact is that mainstream assume that energy is supplied from a single supply source. For purposes of this exercise assume that the supply source delivers 10 watts. 5 watts are dissipated as heat - leaving a maximum of 5 watts available as 'stored' energy. Therefore the 'recharge' to the supply CANNOT exceed 5 watts. This circuit proves that about 10 watts is returned. A little under - but not much under. That begs the requirement of an alternate energy supply source. Long back, even before establishing the circuit results - the thesis required that a second energy supply source was in ALL BOUND MATERIAL. Everything with a gross three dimensional shape. If that material is conductive and/or inductive - it can be used to regenerate another cycle - but strictly and only in terms of inductive laws. I've found nothing new in the circuitry. But there's a world of difference in using this energy source.

It's not easy to find. It's an aperiodic oscillation - but it has certain 'repeatable' features that are evident as harmonics. This is when the Supply source is replenished entirely at every discharge. At other times the recharge is only partial. But the net result is also a net gain in co-efficient of performance.

[Jbignes5]

yes.

Just that. No need to go further. The fact is that mainstream assume that energy is supplied from a single supply source. For purposes of this exercise assume that the supply source delivers 10 watts. 5 watts are dissipated as heat - leaving a maximum of 5 watts available as 'stored' energy. Therefore the 'recharge' to the supply CANNOT exceed 5 watts. This circuit proves that about 10 watts is returned. A little under - but not much under. That begs the requirement of an alternate energy supply source. Long back, even before establishing the circuit results - the thesis required that a second energy supply source was in ALL BOUND MATERIAL. Everything with a gross three dimensional shape. If that material is conductive and/or inductive - it can be used to regenerate another cycle - but strictly and only in terms of inductive laws. I've found nothing new in the circuitry. But there's a world of difference in using this energy source.

It's not easy to find. It's an aperiodic oscillation - but it has certain 'repeatable' features that are evident as harmonics. This is when the Supply source is replenished entirely at every discharge. At other times the recharge is only partial. But the net result is also a net gain in co-efficient of performance.

Ok. Tesla was working on the same premise. http://keelynet.com/tesla/00577670.pdf
I believe Tesla was able to get around the problem of astable operation that make it sooo hard to manifest the effect you see. That link shows you how he attempted to manifest the process. What I would like to see is a more manual way (Teslian) to get the stable recharge that you seek. Even Tesla was haing a hard time getting it stable and only lacked the control method that we have in ordinary use today. An automatic control based on load. As your unit heats up I suspect that it is changing properties between the battery and load (resistance of the wire coil as it heats up) and thats what is keeping you from attaining a stable operating of the charge back to the battery and the output of the coil/resistor. Since the resistor coil is clearly breaking down in the process. It might benefit you tons to look at the Nitinol or other types of wire to facilitate a better operating life to the resistive coil.
I do understand the BEMF theories and how we should be able to net tons from it. But because you are using the switcher in a way that is outside of it's capabilities I would suspect that a micro controlled switcher would be able to sense the minute changes and help it stay in tune all the time netting you more in the long run. If this process is indeed taking samples of energy from the environment then it could be maximized through direct control of the switcher to optimize the whole circuit when things change like battery charge vs. load resistance changes through heating or even wear on the resistive coil.

[witsend]

Here's what I'm trying to do in structuring a company to advance applications. Book in a supplier - whatever it is you're working on. Lights, hot water cylinders, stove elements - whatever. Book in a resistor manufacturer if that first supplier does not have an interest here. Offer both parties exclusivity to supply subject to successful experimentation and that the on going supply costs are market related. Source an appropriate transistor (this is our own hold up at the moment. I keep hoping) The advantages to supply these should be self evident. Not sure if you can encourage a 'tailor made' number. Thus far I've not been successful. But I'm still trying. Then book in a certain amount of the equity or the profits to the company to Open Source funding - or to whatever community charity you require. My own intended contribution here is plus/minus one third. But I still need to clear this with the investor. Book in some kind of accreditation process that no-one can accuse you of fraudulent misrepresentations. And THERE YOU HAVE IT. It really is as easy as that. No major expenses to development. No major risks other than by those that can best afford it. The only costs in time and in telephone calls.

Hope that helps.

[witsend]

Ok. Tesla was working on the same premise. http://keelynet.com/tesla/00577670.pdf
I believe Tesla was able to get around the problem of astable operation that make it sooo hard to manifest the effect you see. That link shows you how he attempted to manifest the process. What I would like to see is a more manual way (Teslian) to get the stable recharge that you seek. Even Tesla was haing a hard time getting it stable and only lacked the control method that we have in ordinary use today.

It is very interesting JB.

I do understand the BEMF theories and how we should be able to net tons from it. But because you are using the switcher in a way that is outside of it's capabilities I would suspect that a micro controlled switcher would be able to sense the minute changes and help it stay in tune all the time netting you more in the long run. If this process is indeed taking samples of energy from the environment then it could be maximized through direct control of the switcher to optimize the whole circuit when things change like battery charge vs. load resistance changes through heating or even wear on the resistive coil.

Any improvement here would be welcome. I have NEVER been able to sustain a battery charge entirely - albeit that they outperform their rated capacities. But I'm hoping that if I can get a 'trickle charge' to the battery which, in turn, is the primary energy supply source to the load, then we should be better able to sustain those harmonics. The thing is that as the battery voltage changes it introduces new variables to those waveforms. Albeit slight, it's enough to change the resonance on the circuit exponentially. But there's much to learn and plenty to improve on. Thanks JBignes5. We'll get there - eventually. Right now, you'll notice that there are periods in the performance where the load is returning more energy than supplied. That's the moment that most intrigues me.

[Jbignes5]

It is very interesting JB.


Any improvement here would be welcome. I have NEVER been able to sustain a battery charge entirely - albeit that they outperform their rated capacities. But I'm hoping that if I can get a 'trickle charge' to the battery which, in turn, is the primary energy supply source to the load, then we should be better able to sustain those harmonics. The thing is that as the battery voltage changes it introduces new variables to those waveforms. Albeit slight, it's enough to change the resonance on the circuit exponentially. But there's much to learn and plenty to improve on. Thanks JBignes5. We'll get there - eventually. Right now, you'll notice that there are periods in the performance where the load is returning more energy than supplied. That's the moment that most intrigues me.

Yes I believe this is the exact area that Tesla was also interested in. In fact I believe he thought along the lines that I have. He knew this BEMF was an environmental effect. Meaning create a bubble and let nature do it's job. The problem is that even with his processes that he devised he saw great limitations to the current process. This is what led him to the discovery of radiant technology. He actually figured out how to manipulate the minute conductors to increase the reach and draw more in or focus more of the event onto conical coils. Much like throwing a pebble in a pond. The initial event is much stronger then nature can counter from the balanced medium. So in effect he learned how to recreate the inrush from an out rush allowing him to bypass the unstable part and concentrate this event onto coils. In essence he bypassed the first part and just worked with the radiant part. I believe this could be better explained that there are two types of radiant. An inward (BEMF) and an outward (Teslian Radiant). This allowed him to simulate the inrush in an outward method.
I know this gets around your circuit but it is directly related to the type of source you are talking about. It could be the reason why this effect you are getting is varied and hard to control. Ok let me refer to the type of source energy we are talking about here. It is way different then the supplied energy. This is exactly what he saw as well. If one was to analyze the energy it is high potential with little current. If you could simulate that as a radiative event instead of an incoming rush then you could directly control the output and get rid of all the parasitic problems that are evident in your smaller system. You are in essence relying on nature to provide the kick and that can be as varied as nature is.
But I will keep your circuit in the original designs but I have other avenues I am going down as well to further this original design of Tesla. It seems the way Tesla was going could provide multiplicative effects based off the same energy with little losses in the circuit of his compared to yours. Like I said I'll forward your ideas and let them decide if it warrants closer evaluation. I can't make them decide one way or the other but I can help them understand the process and let them see there is in fact a reason to develop this. Especially for heating methods or generating from the resulting heat.
I just wanted you to know how I see this relates to your system as well compared to Tesla's evolution of his system. This only compliments your findings with someone who was doing it over 100 years ago.

[Jbignes5]

Rosemary.

Do you have a package of schematics and everything I would need to present this to the academia?

[b4FreeEnergy]

Desperately looking for a clean abundant power source

... professionals who are desperately looking for a clean abundant power source ...

Dear J. Bignes,

The world and all people living on it desperately need a clean and abundant power source for sure and it needs to be free; there is no better way to put it I guess.

I can’t help having the feeling that the world already had several such opportunities but that they always magically 'disappeared' again because “you can’t put a meter on them” or because they were against big financial interests.

I had a look on the Syracuse website using your link, you guys are big. I can only hope things don’t disappear into thin air again if the big guys get involved.

Best regards, B

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Do you have a package of schematics and everything I would need to present this to the academia?

Nearly missed this Jbignes5. I do indeed. check your pm box later. Right now I have to go out.

[b4FreeEnergy]

Move on!

Don’t look back all the time, move on!

What is the there to win with this endless discussion? What is the added value!?

The final target would be to show to the world that this little circuit is able to produce ‘extra’ heat even if it might ‘eat’ the wire in the process … Right?

There is work to do! Let's get started.
Cheers,
B