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  • Originally posted by witsend View Post
    GUYS I HAVE REALLY WONDERFUL NEWS

    We have got full on laboratory space, and a full on project for our hot water appliance at A LOCAL CAMPUS. Interest all over the place, and both students and academics on tap. SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS. The project to be headed by Donny. And we'll post ALL RESULTS AS AND WHEN THEY COME.


    We're still resolving the 'switch' or - specifically - the transistor. But with all this INTEREST I'm sure we'll find a way around the impasse.

    Thank you God.

    I might add that this is the culmination of many, many years of futile application to the academics and I simply would not have got here without the extraordinary exposure offered us all in this forum and the extraordinary skills of Glen's experimental genius. That replication was definitively the cause of this BREAKTHROUGH. THANK YOU GLEN. AND THANK YOU ENERGETIC FORUM

    ON CAMPUS AT LAST. THAT'S GOT TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT. ALL JUST SO RESPECTABLE. LOL
    Hi Rose, note as i know you do its a TEAM, Aaron, Harvey, Steve, GLEN and many more here, Luc, Peter Alex (ground loop) and many more.

    Hopefully we can return these benefits to the open source community through this?, i hope they realize where it all came from and the EXACT strength in open source. Are they going to release any details of this venture in this theme or is it now all hush hush?

    Congrats, let us know what problems arise i can see a few. Harvey , Glen and are working on 3 solid reps to close the book.

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    • I'm on record Ash. The history of this circuit in open source has been turbulent. But in as much as it has finally been steered to campus then it is definitely in safe harbour.

      Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
      Hopefully we can return these benefits to the open source community through this?, i hope they realize where it all came from and the EXACT strength in open source. Are they going to release any details of this venture in this theme or is it now all hush hush?
      Surely you don't need me to tell you this? There are many members of this forum who took the claim seriously - in the face of many denials and - indeed - some considerable contempt that was evidenced elsewhere. That was extraordinary and that much is deserving of my undying gratitude. I certainly would not be associated with any venture that was designed to 'hide' anything. Actually I'm rather hurt Ash. Where have I ever been associated with anything that is not intended for the benefit of open source and for the broader general good? It is absolutely NOT in my history or my motives or my nature. And I would not advance this technology to campus if I thought any part of it would be 'hush hush' as you suggest. The project will be defined by Donny and - in as much as he is way more qualified than myself - it is definitely under his guidance. But I'll be hands on - with access to all data - and it is still very much under my 'jurisprudence' if that's the right word. Why would I make my association public if there was a hidden agenda? If anything was intended to be 'hush hush' as you put it? Both parties, the academics associated with this and Donny and I are committed to getting this technolgy proved, out there, and used. There's perfect synchronicity in these objects.

      You mention that other experiments are being designed to 'close the book'? My intention is to OPEN THE BOOK WIDE. LOL. We've got many unaswered questions and test parameters that need to be more fully defined. The switch heads the list. Then there's the level of inductance, the type and design of the resistor, the 'noise' - still bothers me - the optimised power supply source - all need detailed analysis. And each subject is HUGE all on its own.

      If I don't share this information then how can the technology be advanced? Surely you get it that that's my ONLY object here? Else I'd not be posting on these threads and in this forum.

      added. Btw. I had the option here of working with a commercial engineering firm and decided against it precisely because it would have been more difficult to make the information public. Our universities are definitely the best route to advance this. Surely? Precisely because they're not motivated by profit.
      Last edited by witsend; 04-09-2010, 03:18 AM.

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      • Rose OPEN BOOK = open source we proved that ALREADY
        close the book =commercial hidden patent control monopoly fixed price

        prove me wrong dear., il just say OW BOY, for now. Got to go back to work
        Thankfully Harvey, Aaron and me have your behind. Dam , of all my years.

        Rose, if Harvey, Glen and i open source a a home circuit, are you saying its not as secure as those in the patent/hidden profit agenda?
        come on rose we know your smarter than this. Why not share this with Harvey and Glen, we will get it known QUICKER.

        I dont want academia to manipulate you, your better then this, sadly i know this.

        Ash
        Last edited by ashtweth; 04-09-2010, 03:54 AM.

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        • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
          Rose OPEN BOOK = open source we proved that ALREADY
          close the book =commercial hidden patent control monopoly fixed price
          If that's the definition of closed book - I assure you it's WIDE WIDE OPEN. No chance of monopolies - no chance of patents. LOL

          Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
          prove me wrong dear.
          Golly Ash. This means you're still concerned about patents? Disabuse yourself of such concerns. They're fictional. I know this because it's already been challenged and refuted. Check the patent histories.

          I'll also 'watch my back' Ash, but glad to know that you and Aaron are also there. Nothing wrong with some rearguard defensive action. LOL.


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          • Rose, if Harvey, Glen and i open source a home circuit or this new info, are you saying its not as secure as those in the patent/hidden profit agenda? Come on rose we know your smarter than this. Why not share this with Harvey and Glen, we will get it known QUICKER.

            I dont want academia to manipulate you, your better then this, sadly i know this.

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            • Ash - if you are planning to 'open source' a home circuit WHAT COULD BE BETTER? And WHO COULD STOP YOU? There is absolutely NOTHING that could be done about it and it would be WELCOME. I've said it before. Let's make this a competition as to whose will be out there first. I'm on. And I'D LOVE TO BE PIPPED.

              And there is absolutely no question that Open Source will get this news out quickly. But with academic involvement and accreditation - then the news will also be more widely believed. It's a bitter pill to swallow - but it's also a fact that our general public are 'guided' by our academics. If they accredit then that's the final barrier - as I see it. I'll be posting our experiments and their progress on a step by step basis. If I've learned anything - it's the impeccable blue print forged by Glen. But this news won't 'take fire' until we've got that final working model and until our academics have looked at it - LONG AND HARD. Hence the motivation for that 'race'.

              Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
              I dont want academia to manipulate you, your better then this, sadly i know this.
              I know a little about being manipulated. I've been somewhat the victim of a trusting nature. It is precisely because of this that I am involving academics rather than working exclusively through Open Source experimentalists. I see a need to checks and balances. I'm hoping to promote a respectable dialogue between 'fringe science' and mainstream. I would remind you. I knocked on their doors for 10 years. Donny has been lecturing on FE for as many. But it's the wide interest in the internet exposure that tipped the balance. These academics are all of them very intrigued with these forum discussions and the hard work that you, the Correas and many, many others are advancing. I think - just three years back it was considered somewhat impolite to mention the term 'over unity'. Now it's bandied about as if it's always been in mainstream parlance. THAT'S REAL PROGRESS. And that's courtesy your efforts here. And our academics are very interested in physics. That's critical. Because it's our Laws of Physics that are changing. Not the nature of energy. Just so nice to part of the paradigm shift. I'll let you know when I see or hear any rumour of something that is intended for patenting. It certainly won't be part of our tests or from our research team. You should be happy for us all Ash. I know that even you are trying to progress this to CSIRO and they're nothing if not academics.



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              Last edited by witsend; 04-09-2010, 04:32 AM.

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              • Rose our contacts in the CSIRO are there to help OPEN SOURCE not CSIRO exclusively.

                Ash

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                • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                  Rose our contacts in the CSIRO are there to help OPEN SOURCE not CSIRO exclusively.
                  Well said Ash. And our contacts with our university are there to help OPEN SOURCE and NOT THE UNIVERSITY exclusively.

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                  • Trial run ...



                    It is quiet here, so an ideal moment to test my setup and see if I can get it running. I don’t know if my “graduated cylinder” can stand the heat so to be safe I did put it in a little plastic box.

                    Cheers,
                    B

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                    • Originally posted by b4FreeEnergy View Post


                      It is quiet here, so an ideal moment to test my setup and see if I can get it running. I don’t know if my “graduated cylinder” can stand the heat so to be safe I did put it in a little plastic box.

                      Cheers,
                      B
                      WOW Bart. That's a photograph and a bit. The test set up looks so NEAT. What results did you get? Love to see some scope shots.

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                      • First findings

                        It’s ‘neat’ because it will get a place on the wall behind glass in the living room if it proves to be working.
                        Hey it’s my first little free energy device!

                        The spikes of a few hundred Volts are there but the circuit does not kick in or does not resonate on its ‘own’ natural frequency yet. It is only the frequency of the 555 that I can see for now. I’ve been through the entire adjusting range the trimmers let me a few times. The water temperature in the cylinder went up to 42°C but that doesn’t mean much yet I think. The battery voltage went up a little bit sometimes but that was probably only because the load got a little less at that moment.

                        I will make a few screen shots tonight. (I need to do some work in the garden now first or I will be banned from my little Lab …

                        What I plan to do as well is to leave the 555 for what it is and do the frequency- and duty cycle settings with a microcontroller. The duty cycle setting will not have any influence on the frequency anymore that way and my frequency range will be way bigger without having to replace any components. Anyway, I’m curious how this works out.

                        Regards,
                        B

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                        • First screen dump



                          Nothing special yet. To be continued.
                          Cheers,
                          B

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                          • Guys we put this together a quick combination of Rose's, Glen's and Harvey's tuning tutorials for now, this is the set up we are sending in to go on the good scope to get the data back for all.

                            http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Ainslie_circuit.mpg
                            Hope it helps, thanks to Glen, Harvey, Aaron and Rose

                            Ash

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                            • @b4FreeEnergy, can you zoom the circled part ?

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                              • Golly Bart. I'm holding my breath here. I think you need to look at multiple waveforms. I think Ash has given the 'tuning' link but the problem here is that I can't open it. I'll keep trying.

                                Just play with the 'on off' switches. I think you need to find that oscillation number where the duty cycle simply defaults to 50% plus/minus. I'm feeling the lack of my Skype. Soon - hopefully. Then look at multiple waveform downloads.

                                WELL DONE BART. It's just so, so nice to see this.

                                But we're still in early stages.

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