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  • #16
    Originally posted by EMCSQ View Post
    Taking the 2A12 Battery Charger Rejuvenator as an example;
    which are sold by r-charge.net as RC-2A12 and
    teslachargers.com as 2A12.
    Are they considered to be identical in feature and technical capabilities?
    Or are these firms only competitors and develop similar products?
    I am not sure on the evolution of that company after he screwed

    John Bedini. When my brother called down there to buy something they

    said the company was going out of business. I think after the court

    proceedings that company kept going.

    In the beginning they had a 100' coil of 18ga wire with 8 strands

    and as long as they use a good coil the static charger should

    serve the purpose of multi-function battery charger. This site has

    a better version at TESLA CHARGERS look at the top of this page.


    I see people on youtube using a block transformer to get an

    inductive spike into their battery and it works just find. If you

    really want to get a well rounded package that operates in more

    than just 1 mode of the other, better go to the best.


    I build my own coils and also use GENERATOR MODE too. Like DUDE

    said sometimes I charge one way and sometimes the other and

    your batteries last forever if they are handled properly.


    Mine is just a charger not a wheel with magnets. Just a circuit and

    coil (twisted Bedini Litz coil)


    I guess it depends on what you are after. Most buy an inductive

    charger to save their dying battery banks that cost lots a money.


    Beyond that is the quest for self running using many other functions

    than a simple charger can offer costing into the thousands after

    man hours. Also don't forget to devote an entire room or shop to

    the setup that many will never have space for.

    If you are able to run the gamut of research into the Bedini radiant

    stuff you will be a changed man for life, provided you knew what

    conventional circuits have had to offer for the last 100 years.

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    • #17
      Well I think the 2A12-circuits are allmost identical.
      They are cap-dump circuits . Not necessarily equiped with an indutance.
      All further info about cap dump circuits you can get here:
      Bedini Comparator Cap Dump - Page 8

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      • #18
        Hi TheDude,
        Did the #18 gen coils give desired results?
        Thanks,
        bro d
        PS I've sent a private message to you Sir.
        Last edited by Donald Haas; 01-19-2016, 04:55 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Donald Haas View Post
          Hi TheDude,
          Did the #18 gen coils give desired results?
          Thanks,
          bro d
          PS I've sent a private message to you Sir.
          Hi Donald,
          I sent you a PM on the cap dump setup i'm using but will reiterate for anyone looking to follow what i'm doing out of interest. I just uploaded my first running video of the 4 dual pole Bedini motor here. In regard to the generator coils, the 18 guage wire i ordered on ebay showed up short in length and in a tangled mess. I was very disappointed. I ended up having to splice it together and used 2 different types to try and finish up the coils just to reassemble the motor. Ultimately i ended up with 4 gen coils of completely different impedance. I'm currently running them through a bridge rectifier and cap dumping them onto a 12 volt bank that runs my bedini ceiling fan 24/7 with the assistance of a small 50 watt solar panel. The bedini ceiling fan (4 coiler) draws .450 amps @ 12+ volts and charges to additional 120 amp hour deep cycle bats the same as in my main motor. So my generator coils on the 4 dual pole motor do not have much of a load on them, but i do have a cree LED array that they are easily capable of lighting. I need to work on adding more of a load and rewinding better coils for the generator side to test adding a load to the mechanical side of things. One thing i do know is that the motor is capable of accepting a considerable mechanical load with out increasing the total amp draw by much more than 10% and also increases the charging on the secondary as a side benefit to the load. I'm planning on adding on to the shaft with a large set of 8 coils at a much closer proximity to test with on the outside of the back of the motor in the future. Just something to think about at this point.

          I now have 2 timing wheels on the interior of my wheel hub. One with 8 open gaps for the opto sensor and micro-controller to trigger the 2N3440 transistor and then to gate MJL21194 that runs to the 4 (8 circuit) boards, and then a separate timing wheel with only 1 gap that triggers once per rotor revolution. Meaning my capacitors gather 8 cycles or magnet passes before triggering the opto controller to the 2N3440 and out to the gate of a VS - 50RIA100 Thyristor SCR that dumps the Caps onto my charging battery bank. This seems to work quite well and self regulates the voltage on the caps to around 3-6 volts above the value of the charging battery bank automatically, regardless of 12 or 24 volts. I have come to re-think my theory that pure radiant as opposed to conditioned radiant through the caps would react differently to produce a positive ion charge on the secondary banks. I don't believe it does (no real reason to think so IMO) as i've seen no usual signs of positive ion charging on the banks since i've started cap dumping. In other words it shouldn't affect the dipole condition of the secondary banks adversely I hope.

          I also attempted to run my set up in Generator mode as in the Advanced Bedini Handbook or "Common bond" or "boost" mode. And i found that it worked quite well for increasing the amps by nearly double on both the input and output banks. The charging was much faster, however with the heavy fly wheels in the r-charge motors, i fear that the temperatures on the circuits was becoming problematic. I assembled a Velluman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on for 1 min and back off for 2 min automatically. (would auto start before the rotor would wind down) through usb on a computer. I also was experimenting with using my copper ribbon Tesla pancake coil as a self inducing capacitor. At some point i did some damage to my 1N5408 diodes and caused some leaking and lost some of the snap in my coils. I explain much of this in my recent video above. The damage may also have been caused by having run my motor without the secondary hooked up for about a full minute before i noticed a distinct sound difference and checked to realize what i'd done. My Neon bulbs likely saved the mjl21194 transistors. but i believe i had damaged the diodes at that point or when testing with the pancake coil. While testing with the pancake coil, my amps were greatly increased (secondary banks would jump up over 30 volts nearly instantaneously) and i needed to increase the resistance on the base of my gate transistor to avoid lighting the neon bulbs while in full operation (could only stand running it like that for very short durations). So in other words i really played around and experimented and now after fixing the motor (much harder to work on now with all the peripherals), i'm a little hesitant to run it in generator mode. Regular run mode is more than sufficient to charge my alternating inverter banks (one charges while the other discharges) and i really don't want to compromise the system. That said i will still definitely run the motor in generator mode in order to video document the increase in amps on both primary output and secondary input. I believe that the ratio works out better in generator mode from my experience with it and i would like to know if it is viable with this setup in the long term. One thing i do know is that i didn't obviously damage my transistors in my testing as i still have a good snap in the coils when applying sudden current while the rotor is at a dead stop. So if i end up having leaking diodes (fairly easy to notice), at least those aren't that hard to rectify (pun intended). I have lots of them and can swap them relatively easily. Transistors, on the other hand, are much more expensive and harder to solder and replace with my setup. I now have a good stock of diodes and i'm preparing to make another video. I'll put a meter on the capacitors to show the dump cycle and take a few shots of the schematic that i used. It is similar to the one on this page http://www.panaceatech.org/John%20Bedini%20Technology.pdf (under roamers schematic about a quarter of the way down)

          Sorry for the slow reply to this thread. I seem to have the time to work on these projects now and i'm looking forward to updating a little more often.
          L&L
          Darcy Klyne
          Last edited by thedude; 04-01-2016, 08:48 AM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
            Nice motor/Gen do you have a video of it running?

            Do you have any protection circuitry incase of a broken plate

            on your 24vdc battery? Or incase of an open circuit? Say the

            circuit would shut down after 100volts?

            I would hate to see your circuit go up.
            Hey Mikey! Sorry so late responding here. I'll be around more often in the future. I appreciate your concern sir. Here is my first video of the motor in operation >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OBRr8VVDE I'll be making many more now.
            I run a 40 amp protection fuse across all the power (+) coils on the way into the circuit boards as well as 4 - 150 volt neon bulbs in the event of a secondary load disconnect. Aside from that, i don't often leave the vicinity of my device while running it. However i have been running it daily for over year now, and my confidence in its stability has grown over time. My biggest concerns for overheating come while running the motor in "boost" or "generator" mode (ie Advanced Bedini Handbook). In my experience the total wattage can nearly double and the heating of the transistors and diodes reflects this. I keep a IR thermometer around when testing with that mode. I set up a Velleman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on and off via USB to a laptop to allow charging to run all day while in "generator mode" as the amp draw can be considerable. (1 min on - 2 mins off) and i'm able to keep the rotor in motion the whole time with that duty cycle. (turns back on in time to keep the rotor from stopping just in time) This adds to the amount of power i'm able to gather from the independent generator coils while the motor is off but the rotor is still spinning.
            I posted on your thread concerning the need for a method of effectively loading down the independent generator coils to gain power from them. Rectifying and cap dumping them doesn't seem to draw much on its own, and as nice as running an array of lights off of them might be, i'd much sooner add that power to the COP of the entire motor. So i'm experimenting on that side of things while putting together more data logging instrumentation to do long term amp hour analysis of the banks as they are radiantly charged and discharged repeatedly over a period of years.
            I'm enjoying seeing your input to the discussion BroMikey and look forward to more updates on your setup in the future.
            Sincerely,
            Darcy Klyne
            Last edited by thedude; 04-02-2016, 04:36 PM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by thedude View Post
              Hey Mikey! Sorry so late responding here. I'll be around more often in the future. I appreciate your concern sir. Here is my first video of the motor in operation >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OBRr8VVDE I'll be making many more now.
              I run a 40 amp protection fuse across all the power (+) coils on the way into the circuit boards as well as 4 - 150 volt neon bulbs in the event of a secondary load disconnect. Aside from that, i don't often leave the vicinity of my device while running it. However i have been running it daily for over year now, and my confidence in its stability has grown over time. My biggest concerns for overheating come while running the motor in "boost" or "generator" mode (ie Advanced Bedini Handbook). In my experience the total wattage can nearly double and the heating of the transistors and diodes reflects this. I keep a IR thermometer around when testing with that mode. I set up a Velleman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on and off via USB to a laptop to allow charging to run all day while in "generator mode" as the amp draw can be considerable. (1 min on - 2 mins off) and i'm able to keep the rotor in motion the whole time with that duty cycle. (turns back on in time to keep the rotor from stopping just in time) This adds to the amount of power i'm able to gather from the independent generator coils while the motor is off but the rotor is still spinning.
              I posted on your thread concerning the need for a method of effectively loading down the independent generator coils to gain power from them. Rectifying and cap dumping them doesn't seem to draw much on its own, and as nice as running an array of lights off of them might be, i'd much sooner add that power to the COP of the entire motor. So i'm experimenting on that side of things while putting together more data logging instrumentation to do long term amp hour analysis of the banks as they are radiantly charged and discharged repeatedly over a period of years.
              I'm enjoying seeing your input to the discussion BroMikey and look forward to more updates on your setup in the future.
              Sincerely,
              Darcy Klyne
              WOW great progress DUDE I love it when you share.
              You have revive my interest all over again.

              Ultra fast diodes?

              G2 HTS wire?

              Yes the diode array is flawed if you ask me. I smoked my diodes
              also and I use the MJL4281 instead.
              Last edited by BroMikey; 04-02-2016, 09:48 PM.

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