Rick Friedrich separation from Bedini

[wrtner]

This reminds me of two caterwailing foxes sitting on
a wall. The Yahoo group did a useful job, and arguably,
its structure is more beneficial, especialy to beginners.

I say this in case anyone cares.

[John_Bedini]

Caterwauling

Wrtner,
Yes this may be right but the foxes have been around for a very long time, you mean Caterwauling. It can sometime be noisy in the forums. You may have been around for a long time watching. I have watched my whole life people try to take things where this energy is concerned. I have always tried to give the most information I could, what is done behind my back I can not control, it's just life. You and I will not live long enough to make the mistakes over again where this is concerned. So yes, Caterwauling is one prime example. What has happened is done and we can not do anything about it, it just wont happen again with me. If that means lack of information on some things or letting people in a lab to see things, I can handle that with no access to anything. I have watched the fly's buzzing around to pick up the pieces of every technology, it's history now. So call this what you will. If you ask a question you may not like what you here. That is why this should have never been posted here without the story in print of what was said. People are just assuming and you know what that means.

[miki02131]

John,

The reason I started this thread is because I was under the impression the Peswiki's header was meant to be a joke. I just couldn't picture you and Rick separated. All I know it will be hard to find another cheerleader like this one in this lifetime. This is coming from a guy who is no fan of Rick as you should know by now.

Can you address these questions:

1- Did Rick fall from grace because he became disillusioned with your technologies due to the fact his research could not support the claims of OU?
2-Did you kick him out because he started telling people about his findings and the lack of OU from your technologies?
3-Did Rick refuse to share with you the profit from selling the bedini kits and other bedini related technologies?

Thanks,
Miki.

[John_K]

Who is writing the story?

John,

The reason I started this thread is because I was under the impression the Peswiki's header was meant to be a joke. I just couldn't picture you and Rick separated. All I know it will be hard to find another cheerleader like this one in this lifetime. This is coming from a guy who is no fan of Rick as you should know by now.

Can you address these questions:

1- Did Rick fall from grace because he became disillusioned with your technologies due to the fact his research could not support the claims of OU?
2-Did you kick him out because he started telling people about his findings and the lack of OU from your technologies?
3-Did Rick refuse to share with you the profit from selling the bedini kits and other bedini related technologies?

Thanks,
Miki.

Miki, you gotta be kidding me. Are you helping Sterling write this story?

Let it go, what has happened between Rick and John is purely business between them and should not be dragged out into the public domain. Business partners across the world separate every day, it's no big deal.

There is nothing wrong with John's technology, if you can't get OU then you didn't build it right. I know that as fact, proven on the bench many times.

John has already shared more than anybody needs to know, let's wait until Sterling actually writes more than one sentence, or is he recruiting people to get the information for him?

It's funny, you started the thread on tesla_and_beyond and also the thread here and then you ask questions like a reporter. What's going on Miki?


John K.

P.S. Sorry John, I said I wouldn't get involved but I couldn't resist this one.

[Gav]

this thread should be deleted or locked, people that have nothing to do with this should not get involved.

[John_Bedini]

No more trash from this pile, make up your own story

John K,
Thank you, you must all understand No more will be said on this page from me as It is just a business decision I have already said that this is going to be one sided reporting. If Sterling wants to know let him ask and I still will not talk to him It's all about traffic. It's not about energy.


Go watch this. Watch and see how you have wasted your time on BS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if0yPIfZjR0

[gandyman]

JB and all involved I am realy sad to read all this.
But I have seen often friendships get broken, anyway, life go's on...

But a question becouse I am mixed up.
Are there 2 compagny's ?
1 from rick and 1 from John ?

Is this compagny/shop (Renaissance Charge) from you John ?
With I find ad r-charge.net ?

If not where can I find your shop ?
Becouse I was on the point to buy more parts....

[wrtner]

What has happened is done and we can not do anything about it.

If you search this site for the name of the Yahoo group in question,
you will find a dozen or more occasions where I have said that it is
the place to go for beginners working on an SSG, a good entry level
project.

The Yahoo group structure has great benefits (and snags), and
people are not confronted with a vast number of threads and not
knowing how to navigate. The daily digest is handy.

This cancellation has not helped ab initio beginners.

Paul-R.

p.s. Caterwauling eh? We learn something new every day. But my
foxes definitely wail.

[Aaron]

company distinction

JB and all involved I am realy sad to read all this.
But I have seen often friendships get broken, anyway, life go's on...

But a question becouse I am mixed up.
Are there 2 compagny's ?
1 from rick and 1 from John ?

Is this compagny/shop (Renaissance Charge) from you John ?
With I find ad r-charge.net ?

If not where can I find your shop ?
Becouse I was on the point to buy more parts....

John's company is EnergenX and Rick's Renaissance Charge simply private labeled the chargers under the Renaissance name. But all the charger's labels are going to the EnergenX name now bit by bit.

I can vouch for what Tom is saying about customer service for free for Rick because we do the same at Tesla Chargers. I have received countless email from people over the years asking for customer service because they could never reach anyone at Renaissance. We still help them out even though they're not our customers and because of this, many have vowed to only do business with Tesla Chargers from now on. That is where you can get all the chargers (with top customer support by the way).

You mention buying "more parts" - for what? Motor kits, etc...? A full shopping cart with all components, wire, magnesium rods, etc... will all be available in a new shopping cart over at Energy Science Forum very soon.

[Aaron]

daily digest

The Yahoo group structure has great benefits (and snags), and
people are not confronted with a vast number of threads and not
knowing how to navigate. The daily digest is handy.

All those Yahoo monopole groups are closed but the info is preserved for reference.

In this forum and Energy Science Forum, anyone can subscribe to threads and get similar updates on discussions as the daily digest in their email.

[John_Bedini]

Rick is gone and just leave it at that

@All,
Let's just say that Energenx owns all the technology and we service everything we make here. I own the patents and all related technology. I'm the one that can pick and chose where it goes. All along the people have got an extreme amount of information from me. If this is just a hobby for you do not expect you will always get the same results as you do not put the time in that I do. If on the other hand you want view this as a soap opera, you need to watch TV. I have watched Sterlings reporting he has never gathered the facts it's always one sided even when proof is presented to him. How do I know this, because he did it to me with Howard Johnson in a bogus article that he never checked out. Did he retract it NO. Did he call me, NO . The same thing has occurred since the SG groups, he just let people beat me silly and then kicked me off when I fought back. I just made one phone call and said, it's my technology and you cant use it and the group went down. Whatever you think of me is your own right. I do everything by the book with this company, so no one person here is going to change my mind about anything. Rick is gone and just leave it at that, it is nobody's business what happened here, it's my company and I will do what I want, if you do not like that then pop up with the money to buy the company, then you will have a say, until that time go off somewhere else and make trouble. This is not run by committee here of czars, it's run by me, I will do what I want, go find something else to talk about. Rick gave me the groups that he did not want, and I would do the same thing again to save information. Stop complaining about OU unless you do the work to make it happen, stop complaining about you did not get the information, you did get the information many times. Go find something to do and save yourself since you all talk the story as the experts, make something happen in your life.

[gandyman]

@Aaron,

thx for explaning.
Why I ask was becouse I see how angry John is, and wen I buy now things ad r-charge.net and it went down between now and a few weeks or so, then I lose my money.
and the kit/parts are not so cheep.

So I wil wait until the shop from John is ready.

@John,
I am 56 years and see how angry and frustrated you are, it is dripping from my screen.
I have had the same as you and you know what ?
I was only frustrated and could not function realy well.
So I forget it all and went on...
It is a waste from energy, and becouse we al want you to stay around for the next 150 years stop with beeing angry...
think positive and think aboud your heart ..

BTW I am Dutch so forgive me my bad Englisch

[John_Bedini]

Nobody knows

Gandyman,
Yes you know how it feels, so what parts do you want, If I have them I will help you.
John B

[Aaron]

John's shop

@Aaron,

thx for explaning.
Why I ask was becouse I see how angry John is, and wen I buy now things ad r-charge.net and it went down between now and a few weeks or so, then I lose my money.
and the kit/parts are not so cheep.

So I wil wait until the shop from John is ready.

Gandyman,

If you go to John's homepage: Welcome to John Bedini or his forum
Energy Science Forum - you can see the link to Tesla Chargers
that is where you can get the chargers right now.

For "parts", kits or anything else, that will be ready in the near future thru
his forum.

[stargate22]

Aaah Haaa!

The german's have a saying..."die Wahrheit kommt herum"

"Truth in Heart"...in a business setting











I knew it was coming!