Bedini HHO

[ritman2]

my buddy complains that he cant use his garage because its too cold. He has built many HHO converters for his cars so I said why not use some HHO in a heater. Then he told me that his HHO devices were boiling due to too much input so he shelved the projects.

Having built an SSG, I said why not use pulses instead of DC and he said thats a great idea but he doesnt know how. I havent gotten him interested enough to collaborate so I am just throwing this out there for the critics who cant think of anything useful to do with their SSG

[BroMikey]

HHO Heaters

my buddy complains that he cant use his garage because its too cold. He has built many HHO converters for his cars so I said why not use some HHO in a heater. Then he told me that his HHO devices were boiling due to too much input so he shelved the projects.

Having built an SSG, I said why not use pulses instead of DC and he said thats a great idea but he doesnt know how. I havent gotten him interested enough to collaborate so I am just throwing this out there for the critics who cant think of anything useful to do with their SSG

Tell him that many people are taking their boiling HHO cell and using 25 foot coil of ss tubing and pumping the water through it to throw heat into the room plus burning the rest. So it looks like the heat it good that way if he can get it off the cell and blow it into the room.

The 25 foot roll of 1/2" stainless steal (SS) tubing is cheap and a small slow moving 12v pump is not bad. All of those dry cells have great big holes drilled in them and the current just runs away.

Most are at 65% efficiency under a powerful load in order to get a handful of LITER PER MINUTE.

If spikes are used like in a MONOPOLE MOTOR the output drops way way down but the efficiency goes way up. Heating an insulated garage will take 10-15 LPM of the gas.

Look on youtube for JDC produces and if he is still doing it Jason had a heater with such a cell just like yours. The video's showed a bundle of 1/2" copper tubes as the heat exchanger.

The claim I heard was that certain ways of burning HHO can increase heat output.

I think Jason had a 5LPM cell hooked to the copper heat exchanger and was doing well heating his area. Just how many degrees below ozer he was I can't say.

Mike

[BroMikey]

HHO pulse gen

Using a monopole in generator mode could do the trick here is a diagram of the latest idea from a good source.


This circuit will supply pulsating tuned energy. This might be considered the first step in choking off the run away current draw.

Mike

[ritman2]

thanks Bro

I was thinking of burning the HHO in his propane heater but what a great idea to run the boiling water through a coil tube to make a heater. That cures his overheating problem if he can put all the pieces together.

Back on topic, HHO relies on current not voltage huh? So maybe the Bedini idea isnt as good as I thought. I am still new to all this so when an SSG discharges into a battery, is that voltage or current? I know coming off the SSG circuit its voltage.

[BroMikey]

You Are correct

I was thinking of burning the HHO in his propane heater but what a great idea to run the boiling water through a coil tube to make a heater. That cures his overheating problem if he can put all the pieces together.

Back on topic, HHO relies on current not voltage huh? So maybe the Bedini idea isnt as good as I thought. I am still new to all this so when an SSG discharges into a battery, is that voltage or current? I know coming off the SSG circuit its voltage.

Everything you said is correct. If you want to go an extra step then using high voltage spikes called fracturing could be used. The Bedini can supply warm current pulses in generator mode or hooked up with the negatives together and diode.

Water fracturing requires higher voltages if you go the voltage route, say on the order of a car ignition coil. Their is a portion of this website devoted to learning the Stan Meyer water fracturing process where high voltages bring the water capacitor dialectic to a state of utter failure, in this case the water between the plates.

Special focus of current limiting and resonant tuning using transformer coils hooked to water caps and setting up the right frec to bounce back and forth just right called a "STANDING WAVE"

Now back to the heater coil. Truckers are buying $200 ss radiators to solve that problem. However for a small dry cell a simple section of coiled tubing with tiny fan takes care of the heat with no problem.

Pulse hammering circuits (PWM) are being uses in various ways to cut back on heat, that works also rather than just Direct Current.

Direct current magnetizes the plates and for conditioning and cleansing nothing can be substituted for it. Afterward dry cells should be used with PWM circuits, since the pulses allow for quick release of greater amounts of evolving gas without heat production.

The gas bubbles do not stick to the plates using PWM. Also some are using the simple PWM's off ebay that have varying frequency control plus adding a toroidal transformer in series to create SOME higher spikes on top of the PWM current supply.

There is so much more.

Mike

[ritman2]

wow

I didnt expect such a detailed response, thanks! One thing I realize I wasnt clear about is that I meant the SSG circuit with a cap discharge at intervals but you covered much more.

But on this last note, discharging the cap into a battery, I cant wrap my brain around if that is current or voltage.

For the record my primary interest is pm and pmm's that do NOT require an input battery, then any type of green energy at all. I just took a break to build a Bedini because I was naive enough at that time to believe the implications that it was a slam dunk ou that was well documented.

I am happy that I have built an electric motor and battery charger with my own 2 hands.

Today I decided to get back to my primary objectives. I have some insights I believe are being overlooked and also some results of my own experiments that prove to me that these things are surely possible.

[ritman2]

also

when my buddy told me that his HHO was overheating and producing too much heat in the form of the water bubbling, I immediately thought those are the kind of problems I WANT! Too much output, anyone got a problem with that?!

[wrtner]

I was thinking of burning the HHO in his propane heater

HHO is PROFOUNDLY explosive.

You are risking taking out your hearing and that of quite a few people in your proximity. Maybe a wall or two depending on whether there is a build up of the gas in a container.

It can be altered so that it is no longer a stochiometric mix of H and O, but the ackowledged expert in this field, Bob Boyce, does not suggest burning as a solution.

You could adapt a petrol engine (advance the spark), feed in the HHO with regular fuel and run a generator to get heat.

Remember Patrick's Chapter 10.

[ritman2]

I was thinking of it in terms of transferring it to a container via a one way valve and compressing it and using it the same way stored propane is. In that scenario how much more volatile is HHO than propane?

[Sawt2]

You do not want to compress hho, there were some guys in the western US who tried that,when the emergency people arrived nothing was burned but half the building was gone.
It is extremely explosive.

I was thinking of it in terms of transferring it to a container via a one way valve and compressing it and using it the same way stored propane is. In that scenario how much more volatile is HHO than propane?

[BroMikey]

Hho On Demand Only

Hello Group members

HHO or HYDROGEN HYDROGEN OXYGEN SHOULD NEVER BE COMPRESSED. EXTREME DANGER OF EXPLOSION, LETHAL.

HHO is a gas that if properly handled like burning it as it is made is perfectly safe.

You should not use a hydraulic press to compact gun power. Same idea.

Pulse charging a cell with 6 different chambers like a battery has works good. Dry cells work but not as good.

Mike

[Quigon10101]

BroMikey, hi
I wanted to inform you that the hho section on your site isn't working. Just a heads up.
Cheers.

[BroMikey]

HHO Website

BroMikey, hi
I wanted to inform you that the hho section on your site isn't working. Just a heads up.
Cheers.

Hello Quigon

Here is a video of my upside down mold for pouring resins over plate stacks.
Hydroxy hho epoxy mold true series cell highest efficiency MMW - YouTube

I will be re-pouring another cell soon and will update by putting these video's up in the website section for HHO.

Thank you for your inquiry

Best wishes, Mike

[wantomake]

circuit

Everything you said is correct. If you want to go an extra step then using high voltage spikes called fracturing could be used. The Bedini can supply warm current pulses in generator mode or hooked up with the negatives together and diode.

Water fracturing requires higher voltages if you go the voltage route, say on the order of a car ignition coil. Their is a portion of this website devoted to learning the Stan Meyer water fracturing process where high voltages bring the water capacitor dialectic to a state of utter failure, in this case the water between the plates.

Special focus of current limiting and resonant tuning using transformer coils hooked to water caps and setting up the right frec to bounce back and forth just right called a "STANDING WAVE"

Now back to the heater coil. Truckers are buying $200 ss radiators to solve that problem. However for a small dry cell a simple section of coiled tubing with tiny fan takes care of the heat with no problem.

Pulse hammering circuits (PWM) are being uses in various ways to cut back on heat, that works also rather than just Direct Current.

Direct current magnetizes the plates and for conditioning and cleansing nothing can be substituted for it. Afterward dry cells should be used with PWM circuits, since the pulses allow for quick release of greater amounts of evolving gas without heat production.

The gas bubbles do not stick to the plates using PWM. Also some are using the simple PWM's off ebay that have varying frequency control plus adding a toroidal transformer in series to create SOME higher spikes on top of the PWM current supply.

There is so much more.

Mike

Hello Mike,
In reference to your last paragraph, can you post a picture or schematic of the toroidal transformer and pwm in series?

Thanks,
wantomake

[BroMikey]

Hho Circuits

Hello Mike,
In reference to your last paragraph, can you post a picture or schematic of the toroidal transformer and pwm in series?

Thanks,
wantomake

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