Any Self Runners based on Advanced Handbook info?

[vidbid]

Addendum

.. Well, those are my thoughts on the matter.

Well, I have a few more thought to add to my first post of this thread.

According to Tom Bearden's comments, "The Magnetic Wankel engine should also be capable of COP > 1.0 and closed-loop self-powering, but apparently it has also been suppressed, as have all Japanese COP > 1.0 EM systems."
Source: The Tom Bearden Website

Harry Sprain's magnet motor is very similar to the Wankel motor, and Sprain's patent is still in effect even as I write this little post: US Patent #7,265,471

If such a device could be somehow connected to a Muller generator, employing anti-cogging technology, what might be possible?

Could overunity be possible? I don't know?

We know from the work of Paul Babcock that electrical flyback from a collapsing coil can be captured and re-used, why could it not be so with a Sprain Magnet Motor's driving coil?

And, if a Muller generator could somehow be employed with the use of a Sprain motor, might some of the output from the Muller generator be directed to augment the current to the drive circuit of the Sprain motor?

I don't know, but I believe the possibility might exist.

[VacuumEnergyMan]

It's great to see all the responses, thanks for all the input. My concept of self runner in this context is embodied in john's 1984 machine. OR a pulse coil SG type of machine with multiple coils surrounding the periphery to collect energy to return to the driving battery. A "self runner" continues to run or rotate while keeping its batteries charged.

I began experimenting in 2008 with Johns circuits from his "free energy"book which he co authored with Tom Bearden. My work has been sporadic since, in between college, work and raising a family. I love to experiment and build, but I also believe in working smarter, due to my time limitations. There are many who are further along than me I am sure who I can learn from. I am encouraged by what I have seen with my experiments, particularily, from seeing less drag on a shorted vs. loaded generator coil. I have made a gen / battery charger for my ebike based on principles Peter explains in the book. It hooks right to the battery and sends energy to it, and does not noticeably slow me down. I would like to give more numbers and videos... but I am not on the computer much these days.

[VacuumEnergyMan]

I don't recall what was discussed online about it. Peter may have mentioned it several times. I know that cap discharges with a mechanical discharge switch always seemed to be the key to the strongest results. Was important to have multiple batteries in parallel on the back and it was possible that the same one was switched with the from and visa versa and several of the batts in parallel I believe may have never been moved. So if there are batteries 1, 2, 3 and 4 on the back, only #1 was every swapped with the front and the front went to the back and was battery #1 on the back. 2, 3 and 4 might have always stayed the same. So with those receiving big cap dumps, I think they helped to charge up the rotated battery since they would have been higher than that batt.

That pic is from John's old site on Icehouse so you know it has been there for a really long time. That is all on his new site too copied over quite a long time ago.

I'll just have to ask Peter and John next time I speak to them. I don't recall if it was a trifilar with recovery winding or took the spike from a diode - I think it was an isolated winding. And I don't recall if it was the normal SG circuit or the bipolar Cole one.

You mentioned the capacitor dumping through mechanical switches, from what I gather from Peter's writing about Johns machine that you and Peter refer to used low voltage but high capacity over high voltage low capacity... say with equivalent 1/2CV^2 values, I wonder how the performance would change?

[VacuumEnergyMan]

BroMikey,

Yes I have batteries, 2 automotive, 4- 5Ahr gels, and 2- 12Ahr gels. Why do you ask?

[VacuumEnergyMan]

Thanks for the share Aaron. That gives some good direction for experiments (large value capacitors). I have made some breadboard type circuits that discharge smaller caps into batteries which worked but wasn't spectacular.

I have been wondering why John doesn't show his SG machines with pick up or generator/energizer coils around the rotors? Peter was saying Johns intent was to make a self rotating energizer- which he did- but doesn't indicate where the energizer coils are, like in the 1980's version. Maybe I misunderstand, as in the case of the ten coil machine in "Inside Radiant Energy" DVD. I don't know if my question is clear...

All in all, maybe it is not difficult, but just takes the right balance of parameters to create a self sustaining system... what I am getting at essentially is where to eliminate design freedom. In my machine design textbook there is graphs and formulas that guide the selection of belts, pulleys, diameters of materials etc. to fulfill specific criteria. Maybe, as a collective, we could be the scientists and create a body of knowledge useful to engineer radiant energy systems that self run. It sounds like Eric Dollard is the closest to this - (forgive my ignorance). With a centralized website with categories of experiments needing to be done to eliminate variables?? Maybe this is over our heads, maybe it exists.. I don't know.

[Aaron]

low voltage high capacity

You mentioned the capacitor dumping through mechanical switches, from what I gather from Peter's writing about Johns machine that you and Peter refer to used low voltage but high capacity over high voltage low capacity... say with equivalent 1/2CV^2 values, I wonder how the performance would change?

Yes, with the mechanical switch to discharge the caps, the caps were only charged to about 2-3 volts above the battery and discharged about every 2 seconds or so. That was the same protocol I did with my trifilar bicycle wheel SG 16 years ago. I think the lower voltage higher capacity works better because you get a strong impulse current that really gets the battery charging momentum happening.

[mbrownn]

Yes, with the mechanical switch to discharge the caps, the caps were only charged to about 2-3 volts above the battery and discharged about every 2 seconds or so. That was the same protocol I did with my trifilar bicycle wheel SG 16 years ago. I think the lower voltage higher capacity works better because you get a strong impulse current that really gets the battery charging momentum happening.

I’m happy you said that Aaron, many miss the importance of current