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  • #16
    3 flows in a circuit

    Hi Sephiroth,

    Everything you're asking about is in this book:
    Energetic Science Ministries Online Store

    There are 3 flows in a circuit.

    1. Positive "Heaviside flow" going from pos terminal of source battery over the wire towards the negative terminal of the same battery.

    2. Negative anti-photon potential going from neg terminal of source battery over the wire towards the positive terminal of the same battery.

    3. Electrons that are induced into movement when the positive Heaviside flow moving over the wire is diverged into the copper atoms causing an electron in the 3rd electron field of a copper atom to jump orbit to the next atom and the next and the next moving TOWARDS the positive terminal. This happens if the loop is closed long enough. With current the electron flow is a few inches per hour.

    The positive potential flow and the negative potential flow both act like a gas under pressure and each one has opposite charges. In some models, the "aether" is and/or composed of neutral particles.
    Sincerely,
    Aaron Murakami

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    • #17
      Heavy side flow? Strange expression. So the raidant I'm describing would be the negative anti-photon potential? So what is the heavy side flow?

      and yeah! I've been eyeing up your book! I like the "metaphysicial" (for want of a better word) side of it as well!

      How much is postage to UK?
      "Theory guides. Experiment decides."

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      • #18
        Good observation Sephiroth...

        Hi,

        It would be very good if we could unify all of our terminology, Bearden wants to explain these events using the present terminology to attract the attention of other scientists, but I think that if we could unify exactly what we mean by notions of negative energy, Radiant Energy, Heaviside flow, anti-photon flow, etc. I mean is the flow of magnetism along the wire a component of Heaviside flow or is it exactly that?

        Also I am starting to read Viktor Schauberger's Theories, which I think that he has unlocked some of the secrets of aetheric energy. I remember Callum Coats talking about male and female energies, which seem a so appealing and more natural terminology rather than positive and negative, or anti-photon, etc. I personally don't like the term "negative".

        It would be very nice if we could find a perfect one to one relationship between various theories and reach a unified terminology.

        Elias
        Last edited by elias; 12-31-2007, 07:27 AM.
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        • #19
          Heaviside Flow

          Hi Sephiroth,

          The Heaviside flow is named after Oliver Heaviside.
          In conventional science, you will hear of the "Poynting Flow."

          Poynting explained that the energy flow over a wire incorrectly. He said that only the potential that is being used is significant and all else is irrelevant. Bearden's analogy: If there is a sailboat on the water, only the wind that hits the sail is relevant and none of the other wind has any significance. Therefore, all that extra wind was discarded in the math, etc...

          So, when calculating the energy potential over a circuit, according to Poynting is just a little bit that is being used...that is like saying that if you take a cup and scoop water from a river that the only potential that is there is what is in the cup and the rest of the river is irrelevant.

          The Heaviside Flow is talking about the entire energetic flow of potential over a wire...accounting for the whole river of energy potential. 10 to the -13th power or 1/11 trillionths (if I did that right)...is all that is intercepted into the copper atoms in the wire from the Heaviside flow...IMAGINE THAT... 1/11 trillionths... that is one approximation. Can you see how much is not even being used? At least this is the case in a closed loop when you have electron current.

          This is why it has been said that a small AA battery could power an entire battleship. It isn't necessarily a problem of having access to the potential...but it more how can you take advantage of all the potential that nature is pouring out for us to use.

          The Heaviside flow I believe is normally referring to the positive potential that is moving over the wire from pos terminal of the source dipole towards the negative terminal on the source dipole. It has a "twin" anti flow coming at it from the opposite direction. So, you can utilize the positive potential or you can take advantage of the negative potential side of it depending on how the circuit is wired.

          To the UK, including book + shipping would be $14.27 US dollars.
          Sincerely,
          Aaron Murakami

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          • #20
            language

            Originally posted by elias View Post
            Hi,

            It would be very good if we could unify all of our terminology, Bearden wants to explain these events using the present terminology to attract the attention of other scientists, but I think that if we could unify exactly what we mean by notions of negative energy, Radiant Energy, Heaviside flow, anti-photon flow, etc. I mean is the flow of magnetism along the wire a component of Heaviside flow or is it exactly that?

            Also I am starting to read Viktor Schauberger's Theories, which I think that he has unlocked some of the secrets of aetheric energy. I remember Callum Coats talking about male and female energies, which seem a so appealing and more natural terminology rather than positive and negative, or anti-photon, etc. I personally don't like the term "negative".

            It would be very nice if we could find a perfect one to one relationship between various theories and reach a unified terminology.

            Elias
            Hi Elias,

            I think Bearden's terminology is actually pretty simple once it is all put in context from one point to another. That was one of the original purposes of my book.

            Actually, I don't know if I would consider the flow over the wire magnetic. There is the electrical part and the magnetic part of current. But, the magnetism happens when there is electron current I believe. The potential flow over the wire can be shuttled over the wire without inducing current, so no magnetism right? Just thinking out loud. Such as a longitudinal impulse...no magnetism or is there?

            I enjoy reading Viktor Schauberger's work. I know what you mean by not liking the term negative because of what it implies to most people. Also, vacuum energy doesn't make sense. A vacuum would have nothing. So in actuality, the vacuum isn't a vacuum but a plenum...an infinite abundance of potential. Language is really very important.

            Here is one description of the plug/neg potentials...I used it as the quote at the top of the dipole chapter:
            “The Great One produces the two poles, which in turn give rise to the energies of the dark (yin) and the light (yang). These two energies then transform themselves, one rising upwards, and the other descending downwards; they merge again and give rise to form.” – Book 5, Chapter 2 from Lu-sih ch'un-ch'iu (Spring and Autumn Annals)
            Last edited by Aaron; 01-01-2008, 06:30 PM.
            Sincerely,
            Aaron Murakami

            Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
            Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
            RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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            • #21
              New Video?

              Hello and Happy New Year to all. I've recently come across this video that seems pertinent to this discussion. It is the only one of a series that is free so far. I think it will answer a LOT of the questions we all have about the SSG, especially since it is the MASTER SSG-er himself doing the explaining and demonstrating.

              Link; Energy.From.The.Vacuum.Part.2-Bedini.avi

              Warren
              ..
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              • #22
                Yes I've seen that documentary

                Originally posted by mrbreau View Post
                Hello and Happy New Year to all. I've recently come across this video that seems pertinent to this discussion. It is the only one of a series that is free so far. I think it will answer a LOT of the questions we all have about the SSG, especially since it is the MASTER SSG-er himself doing the explaining and demonstrating.

                Link; Energy.From.The.Vacuum.Part.2-Bedini.avi

                Warren
                ..
                Hi Warren,

                Bedini certainly does a very good job in explaining how his circuits and motors work, but he doesn't explain what happens in detail very much. I think that he wants us to understand mostly by ourselves, by experimenting, and this is very valuable, I admire this approach. This simple SSG circuit has many secrets and it is very interesting. Just playing around with it can reveal interesting effects. One of them is the fact that the charge going to the secondary battery is not related to the primary charge at all and comes from somewhere else, which I have verified above.

                Regards,
                Elias
                Last edited by elias; 01-01-2008, 09:33 PM.
                Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  Hi Elias,
                  Also, vacuum energy doesn't make sense. A vacuum would have nothing. So in actuality, the vacuum isn't a vacuum but a plenum...an infinite abundance of potential. Language is really very important.
                  Yes Aaron,
                  Here is a philosophical aspect of this:
                  Does vacuum exist? If it exists, then it is not a "vacuum", if it doesn't exist then, why can it hold materials which do exist? Thus one can conclude that vacuum does exist and is not a "vacuum" after all and it is something or we may call it the Aether.

                  Some Physicists are talking about void!! What is void? They describe it as being somewhere that nothing exists in it, not even the so called "dark matter". I think that these are perfect non-senses. There is nothing in non-existence and non-existence or nothing cannot exist!

                  Thanks for you wonderful explanations.

                  Elias
                  Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                  http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                  • #24
                    Please Help me understand the basic SSG circuit

                    Originally posted by elias View Post

                    In conventional terms, there are two cycles in this circuit:
                    1- The transistor is ON
                    2- The Transistor is OFF

                    At 1 the current charges the coil with magnetic field, by drawing some current from the primary battery.
                    At 2 the magnetic field collapses and discharges into the secondary battery. So the secondary battery comes into the circuit when the diode is ON, and the diode cannot be ON when the transistor is ON in conventional terms. And when the transistor is OFF no current is drawn from the primary battery. Connection by only the negative side is not enough. They hold only one common at any moment of time.

                    Elias
                    Firstly, I am just learning about electronics, period.

                    I keep reading this over and over and looking at the circuit and I just can't visually make a route in my mind for each cycle.

                    I have attached a file for what I currently believe or visualize might be the "first cycle" where the power coil is fired, transistor on.

                    If I were to erase all of the irrelevant stuff in the original image, for cycle two, and depict the transistor open... what would be left in my drawing?

                    I also understand that diodes let current flow one way, but how does one equate this to on/off? Is on when current is travelling in an allowed direction, and off is when current attempts to enter where it cannot?

                    Thanks for any help. I about to build this thing, and honestly I am not completely stupid...LOL just trying to understand.
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                    • #25
                      Hello kcarring and welcome.

                      I put a diagram for transistor off below.

                      I also understand that diodes let current flow one way, but how does one equate this to on/off? Is on when current is travelling in an allowed direction, and off is when current attempts to enter where it cannot?
                      Yeah I think that's what Elias means where you quoted him.

                      You have a fairly good understanding so far.

                      Keep asking questions if you don't understand.

                      Cheers
                      Last edited by Farmhand; 05-27-2012, 12:18 AM.

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