Analysis of Bedini Monopole / working of radiant energy

[Ewhaz]

What little I've picked up.

While it may help to know the actual mechanics of HOW radiant energy works, it doesn't seem very practical to me to work on that just yet. What I mean by that is for example, one does not need to know nuclear physics to understand how to use the sun's energy to run a solar cell. Bedini makes a good point in his the free energy video when he talks about the modern electrodynamic model. He basically said something to the effect of 'Has any one every seen Ion's flowing through a conductor?' the answer was of course No. We can measure Voltage (potential difference) and amperage (work or load) but that does not necessarily mean it is Ion flow as we understand it.

What we Can do is make observations about things we can test, and learn from other people who have worked on this before. I'll put up what little I understand about the process now from what I remember from the video and the book.

Basic Principles.
* Any impedance can become a negative resistor (shows Gains in negative or radiant energy).
* Negative Energy (radiant energy) works in Reverse of normal Electricity. Where as electricity shows a loss at any impedance, negative energy shows a gain instead. Negative energy also flows in reverse of the electrical flow (IE from the negative to the positive)
* Negative energy is conversant (drawn to inductors) where as electricity is divergent (pushing away from inductors, Think Radio waves or EM fields around wires).
* IMPORTANT. Sharp gradients violate the laws of thermo dynamics! What this means in electricity is simply sharp pulses (Sharp Saw tooth wave form, a quick ON and OFF.) shows Gains in electricity.. IE its where the negative energy shows up!
* Negative energy cannot be used to power electronic devices, it must first be transmuted into normal electricity. This can ONLY be done in a dipole, IE capacitors or batteries.
* Dipoles require a conditioning time frame. After repeated exposure they show greater gains in negative energy flow.
* Negative Energy happens BEFORE current flow. The second Current shows up, the event is over and negative energy is destroyed.
* Negative energy without current flow damages dipoles to the point of being inoperable. Some current flow is needed, for whatever reason, to prevent this.
* Voltage is instant, current isn't. Remember all those experiments you learned about in school, the line of people standing together hand in hand who get zapped? Every person jumps at the same time. In electrical theory the idea is that the Ions act like the cars in a train. Push one from the back and the one at the front gets shoved forward as well.
* Negative energy flows very slowly.

It's been a while since I've dealt heavily with the electrodynamic theory so there may be something I'm missing. Ion flow IS technically Current flow, however there may be something about the mechanics that requires time to get up to full force, and since we know that negative energy is convergent and positive energy (electrical energy) is divergent (Think radio waves) and that current negates negative energy flow it may be simply that once the current flows the divergent energy field effectively creates a barrier to negative energy, this may also be why current flow destroys the dipole (depletes the battery, capacitor etc), it shuts off the gate that allows the negative energy to become electricity.

These to me are the basics to understanding how to use and work with negative energy. There is some information that seems to suggest that electricity is already a radiant event, that in fact the chemical and electromagnetic effects are the gates at which Radiant energy is transmuted into normal electricity as we know it. Understanding this may be the key to getting HUGE gains in free energy but that may have to wait until this all becomes main stream and the major universities can take a hold of this information and begin testing it with the billions of dollars available in grants and such. For us little guys all we can do is observe and come up with theories and test them.

Theory
So heres a theory about what happens during the event. We first have a sharp gradient. The Ions initially surge forward but require time to get up to speed. Their divergent field is minimal at this point so we also get the convergent energy in the form of Radiant energy flooding into the system. Flowing backward from the negative to the positive, the Negative energy employs gains along any impedance in the path (this is possibly why switching on the negative side shows more gains that on the positive side). As the current begins to speed up, its divergent field begins to grow. At some point the potential difference between the convergent and divergent fields becomes equal and eventually out of balance so that the convergent field can no longer compete with the faster and thus stronger field and is negated or destroyed. However knowing this we've quickly dumped the pulse into a dipole in order to make use of the negative energy before it's had a chance to be destroyed. There the chemical composition of the dipole is acted upon by the negative energy, pulling rather than pushing the ions forward. The effect is so quick that the ions don't even have time to react properly and in fact are left with a potential difference after the event has ended, leading to further charging. Because the chemicals are acted upon by the negative energy rather than current flow, they are also conditioned to respond more effectively to the pulse of negative energy. The faster these negative pulses come into the dipole, the faster it charges.

Let me make this perfectly clear that this is only a theory of whats going on. I am most likely incorrect as I'm building my theory to fit the above set of points as I understand them as they were presented to me. They explain the physics of this all in Beardens book 'Free energy secrets' but most of that was beyond my understanding at the moment. They involved heavy electrodynamic theory, quantum theory, particle physics theory etc. At the moment I don't have the patience to educate myself in those fields to understand it in depth. I also may be incorrect in my understanding of electrodynamic theory.

This theory is simplifying what I understand from my observations and the information I've gotten so far from this forum and other sources. I hope this helps.

Ideas based on the above theory and points
In theory getting huge gains would simply be a matter of putting massive impedance in the circuit. However, we also know that this will stall any kind of electrical pulse unless you up the potential to drive past it. Higher voltages would be required for this and or special circuits. Some how you would need a huge impedance that didn't actually resist voltage rises.. I don't know of anything offhand that would do that. The coils have an interesting function though, any delay in the voltage rise as they saturate the field is offset by the fact that the field collapses at the speed of light. There are many experiments we can do to test this and see how this can be utilized to get greater and greater gains in negative energy.

[illchemist]

That is very good summary.

I do like the term negative energy because it is a good description of it's physical attributes. Cooling, negative resistance, etc.

From what I understand, a radiant event can be triggered by rapid discharging of a capacitor (like Tesla's spark gap experiments) or by the rapid collapsing of a magnetic field. Bearden calls the discharghing of a capacitor a 'time-collapsed' action but I don't know if I quite understand that. Is it time-collapsed because it is rapid in relation to the time needed to charge it?

Really, anytime the aether is stressed, it should release radiant energy?

[gmeat]

Not sure if this means anything but?

Hi Guys, Nice analogy Ewhaz, that has shades of Bearden all over it lol.Well, I have done some experiments recently that involve water and creating a vortex in a 55 gallon drum that I thought would be interesting to me because it involves SPACE and TIME but I dont want to elaborate to much on this right now (unless someone pries it out of me lol).During my whacky experiment I noticed that if I took a magnets north pole and polarized a cup of magnetite and then let the cup float in water if i tried to attract the cup towards the south pole it would actually repell the cup away and so there it is,and I'm not sure what good that tidbit of info is good for but that is the way I make my SSG coors and why I was asking Peter Lindemann if Bill Muller polarized his coors on his generator/motor.


-Gary A

[Ewhaz]

Bearden's pages have tons of information on the subject.

The Energy Pages

Time compressed. Baiscally thats how I understand it, it takes a moment longer to build the potential and then only a fraction of a second to drop it off again.


The analogy would be how a ramp dilutes gravity. Your able to push a weight up at the cost of time and distance over hight. Once you get it to the top you take the short way down and drop it off the edge instead. Slow up, quick drop down. In an EM field since they have the potential to travel at the speed of light, the only thing stopping it is counter EMF, or in other words any kind of opposing magnetic field it has to cut through to collapse.

This works in coils as well as capacitors. If you've ever shorted out a capacitor you know that it doesn't dump it's potential at the same rate it gained it, it dumps it as fast as it can. You'll notice in some high voltage capacitors they have a resistor across the terminals to drain it slowly, a direct short would create a spark as it dumped all at once.

Honestly I think Bearden and the others, while they mean well, are confusing people by going into detail with the particle physics and quantum field theory. That doesn't make it very praticle to learn for people who don't have time to learn the in's and out's of those fields of knowledge. I guess we'll have to wait for a while for the 'Idiots guide to Radiant energy'. Thankfully Peter is working hard on simplifying it and if you pay attention and read read read! Bedini has put his information out there for people to get to. I mean one of the patents in his book is on a Yahoo groups for cripes sakes. He's been very generous in that respect.

However, they are also in a business as well, so he's most likely retaining the improvements in his systems for his business interests. That only makes sense though as it takes money to run experiments (Something I'm becoming painfully aware of) otherwise he wouldn't be doing much of anything.

[Schpankme]

I think Bearden and the others, while they mean well, are confusing people by going into detail with the particle physics and quantum field theory.

All,

Do not be confused with the talk of 4-symmetry. Everything you know and everything you well come to know, can be described in 3-Symmetry (3 space). Let 4-symmetry be used to describe a measurement, like Speed, Distance or Time.

- Schpankme

[Ewhaz]

I need to make a note here that where I placed 'Ions' in my post a few posts back, it needs to be corrected to 'Electrons'.

[geron]

need of developing

I doubt very much, that we may sit and wait, while others, maybe mainstream science pick up the matters of radiant energy, develope it and/or present their theoretical results to us: they will not do it. They haven't it done while the last century and they are used to turn a blind eye on it.

This developing is OUR thing to do, since we, "the people", will have the profit out of it.
We may remember: Bedini, Newman and others worked already in the 70ies and 80ies on this matter: mainstream science did nothing with their results, but dismiss it.

Maybe its hard for us, since we're not used to do such scientific research working, but I think, we cannot spare this hard way: getting the magnifierer glass and look at what we find and analyze it prezisely, using all knowledge, that is at our hands.

We have a big struggle going on within politics, economics, science and the whole society, who is ruling the world? the big corporation-monopoles or the people.
The monopoles don't like science, that may be used by the people so they will become autonomous. Thus they don't like Tesla, radiant energy and the stuff, we are treating here: they fear, that we, the people, may get the grip to the power and the wealth, they are owning now.

If we want to be successful, we have to do our part of the work and take all our means: scientific potencial and analysis, research, engeneering, experimenting, seeking for substantial and resilient results, that will be for the profit of all.

Geron

[illchemist]

Not to get too off track but the military understands more about this radiant energy or negative energy than anyone else and they are going to try to keep it very secret. History almost always shows that a new science will be used for weaponry before it is used for peaceful means.

Bearden and others talk a lot about these scalar interferometers used to influencew the flows of high/low pressure systems. EM weapons do not use conventional electricity. Everyone loves to quote Defense Secreatry William Cohen as proof of the technologies. It seems the secret is coming out and truth will always be known, sooner or later. It is up to us to show peaceful uses for this technology.

[amigo]

History tells us that one way or the other any secret technology finally surfaces to the public sector, usually after a long period of time, once it becomes "obsoleteware" for the Military Industrial Complex and they move on to even more incredible technologies.

Sadly, in this case it might be little too late for our world when the RE comes out

[illchemist]

Not too late... because as long as we stay aware and keep our minds open, our consciousness will keep evolving. That, clearly, is happening right here. I have a feeling that biological evolution follows that of consciousness. That is why evolution seems to have happened rather quickly on Earth. The Earth is a sturdy girl and even if for some reason, like the dinosaurs, humans became 'no more,' something would rapidly take it's place because that consciousness still exists. It is potential wanting to take form in this universe.

Has everyone seen 'What the Bleep do We Know?' There are physicists in that movie who do a good job at explaining to the layperson what modern-day physics sees. It is necessary to understand Bearden, IMO. It overlaps with everything the ancient monks knew through deep meditation.

[elias]

This developing is OUR thing to do, since we, "the people", will have the profit out of it.

Geron

Geron,

I love your idea, but for a truly successful scientific research, a good team is required with some instructors such as Peter Lindemann.

This forum has been good for pointing out more of the "scientific" detail of these technologies unlike other forums, but if we want to understand Radiant Energy as Tesla understood it or even more, there should be an organized scientific research. Universities don't support these technologies, so we should use the Internet to base a good research ground for everyone.

It is almost about 9 months which I have got introduced to these types of technologies, and since then my life has changed. I am seeing so many like me on the Internet experimenting by their own. I think that this is great and also a great waste of resources. We should learn to operate more like a team, to achieve desirable conclusions.

We must learn from our experiments, and pass others. There aren't many people like Bedini out there which can do or will do everything by themselves (including the experimentation, and machining, etc).

I would suggest some of leading researchers accepting to be an instructor for an Internet based organized research, which has broken the research field unto little experiments. In this case anyone (even more than one) interested can choose an experiment and report the results. Almost like the SSG for example but a more advanced one.

I personally think that the reason we don't have free energy is us, not merely the government, we are not ready to get free from enslavement. But time is changing and I see the people changing too.

Elias

[Schpankme]

Analysis of Bedini Monopole / working of radiant energy

I personally think that the reason we don't have free energy is us... - Elias

Elias,

What do you mean by FREE ENERGY ?

How much are you willing to pay for FREE ENERGY ?

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Now back to the subject matter:

o Why did Bedini abandon the Spark-Cap, which Tesla clearly perfected?

o Utilizing Radiant Energy requires defining and mapping of four essential areas 1) Production 2) Harvesting 3) Storage/Conversion 4) Safety Concerens

o My goal is to move away from charging batteries, and on to direct power consumption. Battery backup preferred.

- Schpankme

[Sephiroth]

"Why did Bedini abandon the Spark-Cap, which Tesla clearly perfected?"

Spark gaps have advantages and disadvantages... the main disadvantage is that they soon wear themselves out unless you use special anodes and cathodes (silver perhaps?)... and making a good spark gap (say a rotory spark gap) is a project in itself!

back in Tesla's day transistors hadn't been invented yet. Now we can make solid state tesla coils using the 2N3055 transistor and simlar models instead of a spark gap... transistors have a much less maintainance and are more easily controlled...

though a spark gap can handle far greater energy!

[elias]

I mean most of the people by "us"

Elias,

What do you mean by FREE ENERGY?

How much are you willing to pay for FREE ENERGY?

Well,

I think that most of the people are not willing to pay for free energy, and do not care at all, the same people which labeled Tesla a "Mad Scientist". Yes people are too ignorant to realize the importance of this. But people are changing and I have hope.

Well, I am here as a hobbyist and for experimenting, I am not intending to save the world and cannot save the world, the world must save itself. Learning and educating are my main goals in FREE ENERGY. This is what I am paying.

Elias

[amigo]

@illchemsit, sure those scientists explain to the lay person what their modern-day quantum mumbo-jumbo theories mean but it does not make them true or correct. They just make people believe that what they have been told is true and factual, because they understood it. To me it's a play of words, nothing more.

@elias, but you are part of the World as well, so you have to save yourself as much as the rest of us have to save ourselves. It's just makes more sense that we save each other collectively than individually, strength is in numbers

I think the problem with this whole RE issue is that people continue to beat the dead horse over its head trying to bring it back up. "Perhaps if I hit it from another angle it'll get up..."

The dead horse is our current global electrical grid, all of our machinery and appliances. We have to leave them behind and create new ones that will utilize negative energy and implosion principles rather, than positive energy and explosion principles.

Right now many in the free energy community are obsessed with over-unity and achieving it using non-conventional (or conventional) means to drive existing infrastructure. I equal that to trying to drive a square peg through a round hole.

Didn't Tesla himself invent light bulbs that used RE (or negative potential) and were far more luminous, with a broader spectrum of frequencies closer to white light, than even today's "Edison off-spring" bulbs we use. And no heat produced either because they did not work on positive energy or depend on the current.

So, the free energy community needs a focus, devise a way of tapping negative potential reliably, cheaply and safely (perhaps that's already achieved we just don't know about it). Then work on revamping the entire infrastructure of devices, machinery, appliances, etc and replace those in stages, in some near foreseeable future, to utilize this new power source.