Analysis of Bedini Monopole / working of radiant energy

[elias]

"Why did Bedini abandon the Spark-Cap, which Tesla clearly perfected?"

Spark gaps have advantages and disadvantages... the main disadvantage is that they soon wear themselves out unless you use special anodes and cathodes (silver perhaps?)... and making a good spark gap (say a rotory spark gap) is a project in itself!

back in Tesla's day transistors hadn't been invented yet. Now we can make solid state tesla coils using the 2N3055 transistor and simlar models instead of a spark gap... transistors have a much less maintainance and are more easily controlled...

though a spark gap can handle far greater energy!

This is my question too. Why we don't see any interest for the Gray tube anymore? It seems that there is sufficient information available for replicating it. (Thanks to Peter) I think that the energy output of those tubes were able to light up conventional light bulbs pretty well, as Gray demonstrated in public (Under water).

[Sephiroth]

agreed... the gray motor appears to be the most powerful radiant energy device I have ever heard of apart from the MEG... I heard that it had a COP so high that he had to stick all these loads on it to stop it from frying itself! Not to mention the amount of torque it had... weren't they going to use it in the Fascination car?

There still is alot of interest in the conversion tube. I have spoken to a few people I met on youtube who have been attempting to replicate it though haven't seen any results...

In fact, Peter, if your reading this thread... I seem to remember a talk you did with another guy who found 2 of the original gray motors... weren't you making a replication as well?

I've been thinking of a few pulse motors based on what I've learnt from the SG that uses a spark gap and capacitors instead of a transistor. Timing is going to be tricky though...

but I want to perfect the SG before moving on!

[Jetijs]

I tried to replicate Grays work about a year ago. My only info was from the PDF in panaceauniversity.org and Peters video. I used a simple oscillator for timing. I could adjust the frequency so that each pulse period was from 5uS to 100mS long. I could also adjust the duty cycle form 5-20%. This oscillator then switched an old russian TV tube on and off. The tube was rated 8kV and 20mA (If I remember correctly) and could switch at frequencies of few MHz. To get the high voltage I used a variac and a 12kV 30mA neon sign transformer and some high voltage diodes to get a DC. This DC then was flowing through some 16kV 0.2uF capacitors and then through the TV tube to the spark gap. My spark gap was very simple, just two lead screws through some pieces of wood, there was a perforated copper tube around one of the lead screws to capture the radiant energy. There also was a carbon piece, that acted as a resistor. See the attached image.
I could get those pulses as I wanted them, there was also a spark through the spark gap on each pulse. Occasionally there was some arcing in the TV tube itself ( guess It could not handle a very high voltage).
So when I got the sparks and pulses right (according to the PDF) I just attached a wire to the copper tube and the other end of this wire to one terminal of a small 12v light bulb. I grounded the remaining light bulb terminal. But the light bulb did not light up. I also tried to use a step down transformer for this - nothing.
That is my experience. But a bad result is also a result and I learned a lot

[elias]

Nice replication

I tried to replicate Grays work about a year ago. My only info was from the PDF in panaceauniversity.org and Peters video. I used a simple oscillator for timing. I could adjust the frequency so that each pulse period was from 5uS to 100mS long. I could also adjust the duty cycle form 5-20%. This oscillator then switched an old russian TV tube on and off. The tube was rated 8kV and 20mA (If I remember correctly) and could switch at frequencies of few MHz. To get the high voltage I used a variac and a 12kV 30mA neon sign transformer and some high voltage diodes to get a DC. This DC then was flowing through some 16kV 0.2uF capacitors and then through the TV tube to the spark gap. My spark gap was very simple, just two lead screws through some pieces of wood, there was a perforated copper tube around one of the lead screws to capture the radiant energy. There also was a carbon piece, that acted as a resistor. See the attached image.
I could get those pulses as I wanted them, there was also a spark through the spark gap on each pulse. Occasionally there was some arcing in the TV tube itself ( guess It could not handle a very high voltage).
So when I got the sparks and pulses right (according to the PDF) I just attached a wire to the copper tube and the other end of this wire to one terminal of a small 12v light bulb. I grounded the remaining light bulb terminal. But the light bulb did not light up. I also tried to use a step down transformer for this - nothing.
That is my experience. But a bad result is also a result and I learned a lot

Jetijs,

I think that I see a small problem in your replication. Is the copper tube placed correctly? I thought that the copper tube must be placed over the spark gap, but in your replication it is placed before the spark gap. The spark Gap seems open to the environment. I have experimented with rapid discharging of capacitors of about 70 volts and high capacity (i.e 10000uF) and I can feel that when a spark is produced something is drawn from the environment (I hear it as a whistling sound) and a shock is produced which penetrates everything. This is the radiant energy we want to capture I suppose. I am a bit busy with my energizer, but I have planned to experiment with it soon. Eager to hear any other result you might share with us.

Have you seen Bedini's drawing:


Edit:
I found this patent illustration of the tube, which seems misleading, don't you see the difference of Bedini's drawings and Gray's Patent?

Thanks

Elias

[elias]

Comparing Coils and Capacitors

Hi

I thought to share my understanding of the similarities between the gray tube and the Bedini energizer here. The difference and similarity lies between the difference and similarity between coils and capacitors. Capacitors cannot vary in voltage abruptly and coils cannot vary in current flow abruptly according to conventional physics. So if one attempts to do that, conventional physics has no explanation to it. In Bedini's energizer the current is cut off abruptly and is changed to zero, and in Ed Gray's systems the capacitors are cut off in voltage abruptly, which each of them yield radiant energy. Radiant energy in Bedini's systems flow over the wire, horizontally. But in Grays system Radiant energy flows perpendicular to the wire. These are my observations.

Elias

[Jetijs]

Elias, When I tried replicate that Gray device, I did not have a lot of knowledge. I was not a member of any free energy forums or yahoo groups. No wonder I failed I agree that a discharge of a high capacity capacitor has the effects you mentioned, Gray used a high capacity capacitors in his setup, even a farad if I recall right. The capacity of my capacitor bank was only 1 uF. Also if I increased the capacity, the neon sign transformer couldn't hold up charging this capacity. When using more capacitors in parallel I noticed only 3-4 sparks per second. That means that the capacitors are not charging up fast enough. Now I know another mistake I made. Recently I studied the work of Hulda Clark on how to eliminate parasites in your body with electric impulses. It was found out, that every type of parasite has its own resonant frequency and if we pulse a weak electric current through our body at this frequency, all the parasites of that type will die. A frequency generator was used for this. The inventor found that we have over hundred type of parasites in our body and to zap all of them would require much time to go through all the frequencies, 3 minutes for each. But then the inventor tried to run this system form a battery and 555 timer set for about 30 kHz, the inventor could not find any traces of parasites of any type anymore. The difference was that this time instead of a frequency generator, a battery powered oscillator was used. This resulted in perfect pulsed DC or unidirectional pulses. And all the parasites were gone, regardless of their resonant frequency. If a frequency generator is used, there will always be a small negative voltage after each pulse, but not if a battery is used. Doesn't it remind you somehow of all the free energy devices using unidirectional electrical impulses? Everyone has heard many stories about healing effects of so called free energy devices, Aaron said he got a powerful boost form a Bedini solid state device, John Searl stated that he has healed many injuries when being near his generator. There's a connection I should have used batteries for testing, just as Gray did

For more info about killing parasites with electric impulses, read the following document:
http://www.drloyd.com/cure.pdf
Reading all that, it is no wonder why Tesla was living in a hotel rather than buying a house and why he was afraid form germs and parasites. Getting rid of parasites is the first step to perfect health and a perfect health is a must if you want to develop any spiritual abilities. Because parasites are one of two main causes for illness and if they are gone, the body can use its resources to develop the mind rather than to fight all the mess the parasites make. Maybe that is why tesla was such a brilliant visionary?

[elias]

Everyone has heard many stories about healing effects of so called free energy devices, Aaron said he got a powerful boost form a Bedini solid state device, John Searl stated that he has healed many injuries when being near his generator. There's a connection I should have used batteries for testing, just as Gray did

For more info about killing parasites with electric impulses, read the following document:
http://www.drloyd.com/cure.pdf
Reading all that, it is no wonder why Tesla was living in a hotel rather than buying a house and why he was afraid form germs and parasites. Getting rid of parasites is the first step to perfect health and a perfect health is a must if you want to develop any spiritual abilities. Because parasites are one of two main causes for illness and if they are gone, the body can use its resources to develop the mind rather than to fight all the mess the parasites make. Maybe that is why tesla was such a brilliant visionary?

Hi Jetijs,

Very interesting, just to add that my left hand is a bit sensitive and as soon as I bring my hand close to the wire to the secondary battery it starts feeling the energy. It is a good sense.

I got rather interested in the parasite shooter! I'll read it, thanks.

Also to mention that I remember Tesla being gifted in imagination. He could simulate his machines in his mind, and construct them as imagined! He also had excellent eyesight which made the doctor get very surprised.

Elias

[Jetijs]

Also to mention that I remember Tesla being gifted in imagination. He could simulate his machines in his mind, and construct them as imagined! He also had excellent eyesight which made the doctor get very surprised.

Elias

In other words, he had the solidworks 3D modeling software in his head
Elias, if you are interested in this stuff, I recommend you the book "The joy of perfect health". It is short and easy to understand. It tells how we are poisoned daily and how it prevents our spiritual and mental development and what to do to avoid it. It matches everything that is said in the pdf I posted and also to the info Bryan (adam_ant) has told us about the sea salt and other things. You can buy this book here:
Bioresonant bookshop

[Schpankme]

Spark gaps have advantages and disadvantages...

...Tesla coils using the 2N3055 transistor and similar models instead of a spark gap... transistors have a much less maintenance and are more easily controlled... though a spark gap can handle far greater energy!

Sephiroth,

My demon has three heads.

1) Creating adequate Pulse Train of =<1ms duration

2) Improving efficiency by increasing impedance for the load

3) Concentrate on solid state setup, with no moving

- Schpankme

[Aaron]

radiant in tubes

Hi Elias,

I would add that the radiant flowing perpendicular only happens in that tube and not anywhere else. Once it has the ground to go towards (much lower potential), it would be going parallel to the wire again.

In the tube, when you have a large HV potential in a cap abruptly discharging to the lower potential rod triggered by whatever means...it is like taking a balloon that is filled up, pushing it against a wall (potential from HV rod pushing against a dead end wall, the balloon will burst out perpendicularly to the rod towards the grid.

That would be consistant with the analogy of comparing the radiant to how a gas moves. When the pressure builds up there, it blast out to the grids, since the grids are going through a coil, etc... then back to ground or a lower potential.

Radiant energy in Bedini's systems flow over the wire, horizontally. But in Grays system Radiant energy flows perpendicular to the wire. These are my observations.

Elias

[elias]

Yes!

Hi Elias,

I would add that the radiant flowing perpendicular only happens in that tube and not anywhere else. Once it has the ground to go towards (much lower potential), it would be going parallel to the wire again.

In the tube, when you have a large HV potential in a cap abruptly discharging to the lower potential rod triggered by whatever means...it is like taking a balloon that is filled up, pushing it against a wall (potential from HV rod pushing against a dead end wall, the balloon will burst out perpendicularly to the rod towards the grid.

That would be consistant with the analogy of comparing the radiant to how a gas moves. When the pressure builds up there, it blast out to the grids, since the grids are going through a coil, etc... then back to ground or a lower potential.

I agree! Bedini's and Gray's systems are duals as the capacitor and the coil are duals. Abrupt changes in coils and abrupt changes in capacitors. Interesting!

[Aaron]

negative switching

It is also interesting to notice it is being switched on the negative. Just like the SG power coil and the inverted neg discharge on the cap discharger versions.

[elias]

For more info about killing parasites with electric impulses, read the following document:
http://www.drloyd.com/cure.pdf
Reading all that, it is no wonder why Tesla was living in a hotel rather than buying a house and why he was afraid form germs and parasites. Getting rid of parasites is the first step to perfect health and a perfect health is a must if you want to develop any spiritual abilities. Because parasites are one of two main causes for illness and if they are gone, the body can use its resources to develop the mind rather than to fight all the mess the parasites make. Maybe that is why tesla was such a brilliant visionary?

Jetijs,

I read that book partially, and I'd like to draw some conclusions.

Here us a quote from tha book:

All illness comes from two causes,
PARASITES and POLLUTANTS.

Well, I think that this is very bold, because it is known that the human mind plays a very significant role in diseases. One example is the Bates Method (Imagination Blindness - A Site Dedicated to the Bates Method of Natural Vision Improvement)

And for his treatment, I am not quite sure that the current kills the bacteria, In this case why don't our cells die? Something else is happening in my opinion. Some intelligent force is killing the bacteria, which knows what to kill. On each pulse a radiant event is created which is life force, and is released into the body. This is responsible for killing the bacteria I suppose.

Elias

[Jetijs]

Elias, you are right about that we also need to purify our minds. That is just as important. There is a whole chapter in the book "the joy of perfect health" about importance of pure mind
About the current. All bacteria and parasites have their own resonant frequencies between 1 and 600 kHz, but the resonant frequency of a human is somewhere between 1-6 Mhz, that is why this low frequency current does not affect the cells, because the cells are part of your body

[theremart]

Reading that book.

Jetijs,

I read that book partially, and I'd like to draw some conclusions.

H
Elias

I have read the book as well, and I found some of the premises were good, as parasites, but the methods I found very shody for fixing them.

I belive in the Rife machine, as Rife created something that WORKED, the trouble is it is hard to verify with out the genious who built the awesome microscope.

John Bedini spent alot of time attempting to get that microscope working again, but I belive it when we see the critters dead, not this, well I feel better approach. I did not agree with here idea that water has memory as well, just too far out.