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  • #16
    This is a simple schematics for get 9 volts for example in way stable. You can get 12 volts changing 7809 by 7812 for example, or 7824 for 24 volts, series 78XX is very wide.



    C1 1 1000uF 25V Capacitor Elec
    C2 1 10uF 25V Capacitor Elec
    C3 1 1uF 15V Capacitor Elec
    C4 1 0.1uF 15V Capacitor Elec
    U1 1 Regulator chip 7809
    T1 1 TRansformer 12V, Cell in your case.

    This are the rules:

    7809 like this support 1000 ma max using heat dissipation, output is 9 volts but, input must be 12 volts min for get 9 volts in the output with good stability, you get 9 volts very stable in voltage and amperage. But if input is 22 volts for example output is very stable in 9 volts. Input max is 35 volts aprox.

    7812 obviuously need about 15 volts to sustain 12 volts in output.

    There are others ways to get output stable like zener diodes, but need to know some about electrics deeply and can be problematic because cells vary too much.

    Last option can be by using battery, battery is kept charged with cells and you get energy from battery, the problem is build a charger control for the battery because charged so much can to explode, and discharged so much get damage. Obviously the way more indicated is yours, only with cells run your SSG it's GREAT. And recharge battery very efficientely without use a source battery is better.

    Good luck.
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    • #17
      Thank you

      Patmac

      Thank you for your help.
      Is there something I can do for you?
      Maybe send you a component/parts you are having trouble obtaining in Colombia.


      Carl

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      • #18
        Solar powered Bedini SSG

        Hi, I,m brand new to this forum but I have been visiting here for months and decided that it might be time to join so that maybe I can learn more and perhaps contribute something. My interest has been the Bedini SSG. I have been trying to find a way to use it on my boat with solar panels to help charge the onboard batteries. The work that I have done is posted on Youtube here YouTube - Lidmotor's Channel. I also have been experimenting with HHO and the Bedini. Thank you to all the people who have shared their knowledge so that I could do this. What I found out about running an SSG with solar power is directly in line with what is posted above. The only other thing that I can add is to try an adjustable switching regulator to control the voltage. Theremart and I have had great success using that voltage regulator. Run the solar panel to a 12 volt battery and then put the switching regulator between the battery and the SSG. If you have a panel larger than 5 watts you will have to use a controller before the battery to keep from over charging it.

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        • #19
          Hi Lidmotor,

          Can you give us more info on this switching regulator and it's function?

          Carl
          Last edited by hh1341; 07-25-2008, 05:05 PM.

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          • #20
            Adjustable voltage regulator for solar SSG

            Hi Carl, I found this thing by accident when I was reseaching voltage regulators for my project. I am very inexperienced in this area so I just took a chance that it would work. It works well for what I needed. It is called a "step down adjustable voltage regulator". I found it at Demension Engineering .com. Part # DE-SWADJ. Cost was $15 US. The item is also called a linear voltage regulator. It is 90% efficient. The one that I am using is adjustable from 1.25volts to 10volts and can handle up to 1 amp. Mart got the next size up fo his projects but now is trying the smaller size like me. Both of us have had trouble with burning them up by not being very careful with hookups. They do not tollerate high voltage zaps from capacitors or shorting. I'm on my 4th one. Mart is on his 2nd. The Bedini SSG really likes what comes out of it. It has a small adjustment screw that lets you control the power coming in. You get hooked on it real fast. Its like an adjustable carburator for the SSG.

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            • #21
              Welcome Lidmotor!

              Welcome Lidmotor! I've seen at least one of your vids..keep 'em coming!
              Sincerely,
              Aaron Murakami

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              • #22
                Thanks for the welcome

                Thanks for the welcome Aaron. I have visited here many times and studied your work. The senior people here really really know what they are doing. I consider it a place where one should observe much and say little. Thank for letting me be here.

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                • #23
                  welcome lidmotor

                  Wow!! at last a sailor

                  Lot's of problems in my directions
                  65' ft Thomson Trawler
                  I'm a sail boater
                  GOING GREEN on a power boat
                  SUN WIND HHO BIO

                  THERE IS ONLY THAT MUCH TIME

                  You are a breath of fresh air.

                  Give us all you have.

                  The concept of designing your own environment is completely foreign to most, for they have every other alternative. Academics, a most powerful tool, sharpened by academics. Eventually ruled by the literate that can not read or write.
                  " And knowledge is to be harvested only by planting the seed". My basket can not hold that many seeds. I work very hard for the help I get, and that is exactly what is breaking my back, I know it can be done and do not know how. Being on a boat put everything to the ultimate test!!! Perspective is very hard, I'm not only trying to fix my wind generator, my whole life revolve around it.

                  Here is a thought, If you say, you have a smart idea. Give it to a sail boater. BET YOU, he want nothing out of the deal. JUST prove it work.

                  A sailor have must have everything provided by nothing.
                  Think we will be happy?

                  How can I help
                  SHELL

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                  • #24
                    Solar Bedini SSG

                    " A sailor must have everything provided by nothing" Wow those are very true words. I have lived most of my life clamped to a sailboat and live by getting as much as I can out of what others see as nothing. Free electrical energy, like the wind, is elusive but if you are patient, it is there. You have to have the right sails up in order to catch it. I'm working on it. Any help is greatly appreciated. The answer I'm looking for seems to be : an Airx wind generator coupled with about 80 watts of solar panel power. The rest is where Mr. Bedini's magic machine comes in. I can use it to cold charge different batteries on the boat. I really like that.

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                    • #25
                      Boats, the ultimate test.

                      Hi all,

                      I am also building an enegizer to rejuvenate, maintain and charge the batteries on my boat. I have a 45' chinese junk (party boat), no fridges yet but everything else is powered by 2 200Ah batteries. The two starter batteries are pretty much the same size (the label has come off, cant remember).

                      My goal is to use the enegizer coupled with solar and wind to do the above. One other use for the enegizer will be to run all of the lighting. I am doing tests with LED's at the moment and once that is figured out I will change all the lights to LED type. Should be a huge saving on power.

                      I think boats are a great test for this type of technology purely because they are not attahced to any mains power (unless berthed). My boat lives on an open mooring, so up until now I have relied on solar and running the engine to keep the batteries charged. She nearly sunk when the last typhoon came through because of total cloud cover, old batteries and a leaky window sill. So hopefully the enegizer works as planned because it will be a great achievment for boaties everywhere.

                      Cheers,

                      Steve
                      Last edited by dambit; 05-28-2009, 11:52 AM.
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                      http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                      • #26
                        Solar powering of a solid state energiser

                        Guys,

                        This seems to be a mixed thread and I'm not sure whether we're looking at just a solid state or rotor based SG, I'm assuming solid state as we're referring to the Fig.33/ p.46 circuit.

                        If so don't bother with the voltage regulator circuit as you're just wasting energy. You can attach the soild state SG (SSG) direct to the panel as I have with my 13W job. It will 'wake up' when the panel generates sufficient voltage. If you feel a need to do anything try fitting 20-47,000uF of capacitor in parallel with the panel.

                        Keep it simple. It might then be worth looking a trying Aaron's suggestion of hooking the charged battery up to a ground rod via a diode.

                        Regards

                        Richard

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                        • #27
                          Solar powered Bedini SSG

                          Thanks Richard for the tip on using a solid state energizer with a solar panel. I have not built a Bedini SS yet but that probably is the answer for using this technology on a boat. Having it wake up and turn on automatically is a huge advantage.

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                          • #28
                            Hi new to the group and just discovered this topic. I am of a similar bent regarding using a bedini SSG energizer with a solar panel but it has to be done from scratch. If you look at how solar panels are traditionally wired ask yourself why Tesla beat Edison and what Tesla would think if he looked at a solar panel. Why does a solar panel drain a battery if there are no diodes?

                            Regards,
                            Andy

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                            • #29
                              lol... sorry, off topic, but I just have to say how much I love that the solar ssg thread has been "ressurected" on the shortest day of the year!

                              Happy winter solstice everyone Things get brighter from here!
                              "Theory guides. Experiment decides."

                              “I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.”
                              Nikola Tesla

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sephiroth View Post
                                Happy winter solstice everyone Things get brighter from here!
                                Unless your in the southern hemisphere in which case it's all down hill from here sorry southerners...
                                "Theory guides. Experiment decides."

                                “I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.”
                                Nikola Tesla

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