Bedini/Cole Bipolar switch (or how to drastically reduce your input!)

[darkwizard]

My modification, i have two trigger coils , two power coils, one reed switch.

The wheel is 4 north pole magnet, it generates 9 radiant pulses per revolution, all the radiant spikes are the same size in voltage, if you decrease the pulse quantity the radiant spike will be the same size in voltage, this is counterfeiting the standart back emf production , in the standard back emf the spike will decrease the voltage when you gives more hertz.

This is my experience with that system, when given more pulses it will give you more radiant energy and more spin momentum, it will be recharging his own battery plus it will be more faster, it will drain a litle bit more of current of the battery but you will recharge it with the radiant powerful spike more faster.

Add many reed switches and trigger coil as you can and it will produce more speed for the same energy is consuming.

Sorry my bad english plus dyslexia i have.

[darkwizard]

My last experiment was adding another trigger coil with a diode in order to add another pulse to the transistor, it run like hell and doesn't draw significant power to run more rpm , because it generates the power that is consuming.

[patmac]

I like your improvement, that powerfull effect generated by motor-generator mass flywhell says much about how works our universe: in my concept flywheel spin and g force create expansion (explosion) and while spin down (implosion).... I would like test it too.

[darkwizard]

Patmac this motor is from John Bedini old website, the adam-bedini motor but this motor doesn't give you the possibilities that a window motor gives.

[fdoca]

The schematic is the half circuit link problem

Ren:

The link is no longer valid, is possible email a link for the half circuit?
my email is edwu1 at yahoo dot com

Quoted "The schematic is the half circuit that I was reffering to. You can find it here [url]http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YCuzSCVNo9T6b6gghwCkn8lssx-A0c6IH3T9sV_WtP4dwPkbiCwzzhhshewMoSiZqJXALyMFkPV7-hqRjpjc3SCQqWfqSPzf/Magnetic%20Window%20Motor%20Files/mcct1.jpg "

Thank you
Ed

[ren]

Full circuit here

http://rpmgt.org/SequentialBipolarCircuit.jpg

Half here http://rpmgt.org/mot.jpg

or here http://www.rexresearch.com/bedini/6392-2.gif

or here http://www.esmhome.org/library/bedin...schematics.jpg

[Huckmubb]

Sorry but there is a lot of confusion here.

I am trying to build a window motor to run off a capacitor. I want 1 power winding, 2 trigger windings and a 4th generator winding. The generator winding should work if it is the same length as the other windings. However, I've read that the generator winding needs to be twice as long? Is this true? Does anyone have any experience with running these motors from a capacitor only? Do I have to use Hall sensors to get it to run from a capacitor like Bedini or mike did?

[lanenal]

Full circuit here

http://rpmgt.org/SequentialBipolarCircuit.jpg

Half here http://rpmgt.org/mot.jpg

or here http://www.rexresearch.com/bedini/6392-2.gif

or here http://www.esmhome.org/library/bedin...schematics.jpg

Thanks Ren, that's great! Which one do you recommend for a starter: the Full or the Half? Edit: Just very curious, Ren: does your motor runs cold? Thanks!

[Watson]

Thanks Ren, that's great! Which one do you recommend for a starter: the Full or the Half? Edit: Just very curious, Ren: does your motor runs cold? Thanks!

I looked at the Bedini/ Cole Lab Notes schematic and I have some questions, I'm hoping someone can further my understanding of this circuit.

The two power transistors are acting as switches.
They both turn on and off in unison.
They simultaneously switch both top and bottom of the coil.

I notice that the full wave bridge rectifier effectively connects the coil to the battery when the switching transistors are open. My thinking is that it would be more efficient to connect one of the the coil leads directly to the battery and eliminate a diode drop, thus saving energy.

This would effectively bypass one of the switching transistors.
So, is it really necessary to switch both top and bottom, when a single switch at the top or the bottom, but not both, would seem to be sufficient?

Thank you for any help understanding this circuit.

[lanenal]

I looked at the Bedini/ Cole Lab Notes schematic and I have some questions, I'm hoping someone can further my understanding of this circuit.

The two power transistors are acting as switches.
They both turn on and off in unison.
They simultaneously switch both top and bottom of the coil.

I notice that the full wave bridge rectifier effectively connects the coil to the battery when the switching transistors are open. My thinking is that it would be more efficient to connect one of the the coil leads directly to the battery and eliminate a diode drop, thus saving energy.

This would effectively bypass one of the switching transistors.
So, is it really necessary to switch both top and bottom, when a single switch at the top or the bottom, but not both, would seem to be sufficient?

Thank you for any help understanding this circuit.

@Watson: I have not validated my view by any means yet, but according to my experience with JT circuits, this thing has similarity with JT, but there are quite some differences as well.

By static comparison with JT circuits (Weekend Projects with Bre Pettis: Make a Joule Thief - Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories), I notice that the trigger coil in JT can be also powered by the batteries, while the trigger coil in this circuit (http://rpmgt.org/mot.jpg) can not. This difference in static structure is so designed for the different way of excitation of them: JT circuits are excited by the current in the trigger coil from the batteries (for those who are curious, here is my original post on JT circuits: http://www.energeticforum.com/55206-post377.html), but these ones are excited by the leaving (yes, the leaving, not the approaching) of the magnet on the rotating wheel. On the other hand, the quenching of the current in the power coils for both circuits follows almost identical mechanism, which I will not repeat here, you can see http://www.energeticforum.com/55206-post377.html for the details.

Hope this somehow helps.

lanenal

[lanenal]

You might also want to do some research on Adams motor, for this is essentially Adams motor, the circuit is a realization.

This figure below shows that Bedini didn't deny that fact:

http://web.archive.org/web/200106220...john1/amm1.jpg

Below are some good sites for Adams motor:
The Adams Motor - Tim Harwood's Guide from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org Geoff Egel
The Adams Motor Page


Edit: I suspect that if we stick strictly to the specifications on building the coil and rotor as per Adams Motor, we would eventually observe the cold-run and over-unity effect.

I looked at the Bedini/ Cole Lab Notes schematic and I have some questions, I'm hoping someone can further my understanding of this circuit.

The two power transistors are acting as switches.
They both turn on and off in unison.
They simultaneously switch both top and bottom of the coil.

I notice that the full wave bridge rectifier effectively connects the coil to the battery when the switching transistors are open. My thinking is that it would be more efficient to connect one of the the coil leads directly to the battery and eliminate a diode drop, thus saving energy.

This would effectively bypass one of the switching transistors.
So, is it really necessary to switch both top and bottom, when a single switch at the top or the bottom, but not both, would seem to be sufficient?

Thank you for any help understanding this circuit.

[lanenal]

simplified full circuit

Full circuit here
http://rpmgt.org/SequentialBipolarCircuit.jpg

Here is a simplified sequential bipolar circuit: Use only one trigger coil instead of two.

[lanenal]

Here is a simplified sequential bipolar circuit: Use only one trigger coil instead of two.

It also consumes less energy in the triggering part.

[lanenal]

Harwood's circuit with Darlington pair

Here is a modified Adams Motor circuit from Tim Harwood's Hall IC switching one.

Advantage of this new circuit: BEMF high voltage will not hurt the Hall IC, being protected by the 2N3055 transistor .

lanenal

You might also want to do some research on Adams motor, for this is essentially Adams motor, the circuit is a realization.

This figure below shows that Bedini didn't deny that fact:

http://web.archive.org/web/200106220...john1/amm1.jpg

Below are some good sites for Adams motor:
The Adams Motor - Tim Harwood's Guide from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org Geoff Egel
The Adams Motor Page


Edit: I suspect that if we stick strictly to the specifications on building the coil and rotor as per Adams Motor, we would eventually observe the cold-run and over-unity effect.

[redeagle]

I am working on a flux gate motor. I am planning to setup a bi polar circuit. I was wondering if anyone had tried using a single trigger with diodes to direct the voltage to the correct small transistors so that you can have the same effect with only a bifilar coil. This had been the one thing that i haven't understood about the standard circuit for a while because the trigger has that diode on it to bypass the transistor for reverse flow of current. It makes more sense to me that if you are going to let it flow then you should use it.

Just my take on it but I haven't drawn out the schematic or tested for shorts either.