Bedini/Cole Bipolar switch (or how to drastically reduce your input!)

[minoly]

Hi Bhargav,
How long were each of the 24 gauge wires you used? Ohms of each?
Were they the same 100 turns?
The MJL’s should be enough. Have you scoped out the coil as you change resistances?

If not, or for anyone else: Try placing a dual pot on the base / emitter of the 93 and 94 put a base resistor on each of at least 220 (so you don’t hit 0 and burn the transistors) this will allow you to change the value of each simultaneously – so when you scope it out you can see the relationship between changing the bases vs changing the mpsa06/93 resistance vs trigger resistance. All three of these need to be adjusted when tuning. Make sure you have high watt pots and resistors if you want the most amount of juice possible. You can also parallel resistors and pots to increase watt value.

I finally purchased more ceramics for our B-kit, but we’ve been very busy on other projects – only so much free time in a day.

did you catch our double short vid for recovery off a pickup coil on the B Kit.

Thanks for sharing,

Patrick

[Bhargav]

Double shorting video

Hey Patrick,
Just saw the double shorting video . Did not completely understand the significance . Could you explain a little more as to what is happening and how you plan to harvest the increase in voltage .

Shorting has become a new field of interest especially after Ismael Aviso's coil shorting energy videos ...

Will measure and put pictures regarding the 20 wire coil soon.

Thanks for your continued interest,
Bhargav

[minoly]

Hey Patrick,
Just saw the double shorting video . Did not completely understand the significance . Could you explain a little more as to what is happening and how you plan to harvest the increase in voltage .

Shorting has become a new field of interest especially after Ismael Aviso's coil shorting energy videos ...

Will measure and put pictures regarding the 20 wire coil soon.

Thanks for your continued interest,
Bhargav

Hi Bhargav,
Thanks for noticing and asking about my convoluted video
I don't think I've seen any of the others you are talking about, but people have been doing this for ages, At least 120 years to my knowledge. Not the double short, however, the double short just takes it a step further. I came up w/ this while working and thinking on JB’s stuff quite some time ago. If I'm wrong - like that's ever happened I would love for someone to share any other work on it.

Normally one will have a generator coil and a magnet, have them pass by each other at a quick rate, then at the precise moment short the coil briefly. This causes a large increase in potential across the coil, which is sent through a rectifier and on to as little impedance as possible to soak it up. So you get the regular “electrons” and an additional surge from the magnet pass.

However, there is still a certain amount of “Lenz” happening. The double short, removes some of that “Lenz”. Only one lead is connected to the rectifier, so when the magnet passes, the coil is allowed to build up capacitance, then at the precise moment you connect the lead to the rectifier and you short the coil as well, sending a much larger surge through the rectifier w/ even less “Lenz”

Did you see happen to see Bolt’s amplified SSG short? YouTube - Pulse motor and Bolt's Amplified SSG short
You get to control the amplitude and the trigger much more precisely than w/ a reed or anything else I’ve seen. The vote is still out on which produces more energy, this or the double short. We send both of these charges to a cap, or you can light stuff or cap dump to charge batteries. An actual physical short is the only thing that might produce more energy, however, we cannot find any precise contacts that can take the pressure for very long.

Patrick

[Zooty]

This may help with reducing lenz's law and also increasing usable output. It's a two stage process and it makes sense when you consider that a low impedance such as an empty cap is better for capturing this high voltage spike.



Shorting coils circuits - AlternativeWorld Energy

[minoly]

This may help with reducing lenz's law and also increasing usable output. It's a two stage process and it makes sense when you consider that a low impedance such as an empty cap is better for capturing this high voltage spike.



Shorting coils circuits - AlternativeWorld Energy

yup, that's the double short we've been doing for over a year now, works like a charm especially in conjunction w/ JB's windowmotor - we put sw2 before the FWBR. when did you come up with that, maybe I just thought I thought it up

Bolt’s amplified SSG short put's out the same and quite possibly more juice than this however. the control is better for so many reasons, and no messy switches.

we never used the AC series cap, what does that do? are you turning that into a series RLC of sorts?

Patrick

[Zooty]

This is not my design, i got it from the link below the image but i did post stage one on here over a year ago before i knew about this. I thought this is what Bedini was doing in his 1984 free energy generator.

Note the AC series cap in circuit - this will make it so the rotor will not slow or brake from lenz-law lugging during the filling of DC cap, and also during the discharge of DC cap to load.
A description of the purpose and function of this AC series cap is that it works like a "high bypass filter" - letting the high frequencies to pass right through, and charge cap, while blocking-out the lower end frequencies which will work to lug primary to higher amps draw.
Values of caps and ressitive load in this circuit are only examples of a particular model - experiments to find best AC cap, DC cap, load, rpms of rotor with mangets, coil size. pulse rates etc etc etc will be needed for particular applications and power outputs vs power inputs.

Maybe we could convert Bolt's circuit to use a couple of high power fets with low on resistance as i have read this will be closer to a mechanical switch than a bipolar transistor. We could also replace the trigger coil in the collection circuit to a hall switch and place it in line with the coil to remove the need for perfectly spaced magnets.

[minoly]

This is not my design, i got it from the link below the image but i did post stage one on here over a year ago before i knew about this. I thought this is what Bedini was doing in his 1984 free energy generator.



Maybe we could convert Bolt's circuit to use a couple of high power fets with low on resistance as i have read this will be closer to a mechanical switch than a bipolar transistor. We could also replace the trigger coil in the collection circuit to a hall switch and place it in line with the coil to remove the need for perfectly spaced magnets.

I like the High power fet idea, any suggestions on which ones to start with?
we've been using the MPSao6 to accomplish the "double short" it's beautifull we are working w/ small coils and the spike is only 400 volts, this is going to get crazy when scaled up.

I like hall's, we use them on the main SSG, control is much better than coil. for this method and w/ a single small coil we've been using an aircore coil to trigger, we've also had good charging and switching w/ a 3 rod core - stacked flat for less on time. frankly the magnets better be dead on anyway or these things do not charge as well IMHO, with such a small trigger, you can mount it right on/next to the main power coil. The circuit will work w/o the EB diode, however, the trigger coil likes to have it. you can do w/o the neon, however, w/o it, do not remove the charging battery unless you like to solder and have a few transistors at the ready.

Patrick

[Mark]

Hey Guys,

I've got my 3-pole kit set up as follows.

Running the motor on a single battery with the half bipolar switch directing the spike back to battery, its running on 12.23 volts, 35 ma @ around 2000rpm using 1 bifilar coil. Then I have my 2 single wire coils in series that I'm shorting out using a Bedini circuit and the other generator coil as the trigger. The spike which is run thru a FWBR to a 10uf250volt cap and back to the run battery. The cap only fills to 80-90 volts when disconnected from the battery at 1900rpm's.

In the first hour battery voltage has risen .01 of a volt. I let you know what happens after it runs a few more hours.

[Mark]

Update:

I ran the motor for 12 hours and the small motorcycle battery I'm using for this test went from 12.23 down to 12.20. Not too bad for a 12 hour run. I will let the battery sit over night and see if it bounces back any then continue the test in the morning.

[minoly]

Update:

I ran the motor for 12 hours and the small motorcycle battery I'm using for this test went from 12.23 down to 12.20. Not too bad for a 12 hour run. I will let the battery sit over night and see if it bounces back any then continue the test in the morning.

Excelent!

we have had a good learning experience w/ that kit here are a few vids we posted that show a couple of Bedini/Cole experiments we did.

YouTube - Micro 3GT "Farris Wheel"

YouTube - John Bedini Ferris Wheel - Micro 3GT self start

YouTube - Micro 3GT Farris Wheel Cap Dump


Patrick

[MrPounal007]

Thanks Bits, need to do an update to that with the halls. Got some very good results once I changed to halls

can you send me how to connect the halls?

[MrPounal007]

Hi Todd,

Yes if you are going to use half the circuit like you would for a monopole then you only need one trigger winding. That is the way I had mine for my SSG for a while. Then I changed it to a hall effect so I could play around with the timing some and vary from the fixed timing of the trigger winding. Still experimenting with the hall setup. I am looking for the best timing and length of pulse for the best charging.

C ya, Carroll

yes sir can you tell me connect the halls in the circuit?

[MALEXIOU1]

hall effect

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Half here http://rpmgt.org/mot.jpg

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or here http://www.esmhome.org/library/bedin...schematics.jpg[/QUOTE

i have a window motor with 24 strands of wire and transistors and i want to use the hall effect to start the motor. i am using 10ohm base resistors . i am not familiar with the hall effect circuit for each strand i will have to use 2 transistors and 470ohm resistor. or i will only use one strand(wire) as drive coil and two transistors MJL21193 MJL21194.
Thnks

[wrtner]

or here http://www.rexresearch.com/bedini/6392-2.gif

There needs to be no "www"here:

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(At some point, the dons who run the Net should straighten out some of its strange anomalies)