MUST SEE ! John Bedini with showing the crystals on the plates

[Aaron]

probably not efficiency but proving concept

The 1 min in 1 min out concept is not a real test in my opinion of true efficiency and I doubt that this is what John is showing.

What it is meant to show I believe is that simply, that battery is become more of a battery with each charge/discharge cycle and that the whole homemade alum battery concept just plain works.

[theremart]

RE: 1 min in verses out.

The 1 min in 1 min out concept is not a real test in my opinion of true efficiency and I doubt that this is what John is showing.

What it is meant to show I believe is that simply, that battery is become more of a battery with each charge/discharge cycle and that the whole homemade alum battery concept just plain works.

I agree Aaron...

But the way to charge these was very valuable, low amps..... It seems the right way to charge a battery is like working out in the gym, you push the muscles, but you dont break the muscles, over time you get stronger and so does the battery.

[Tishatang]

Hi All

I hope this is not a stupid question. Chemistry is not my thing. In my mind, an alkaline solution is the opposite of an acid solution. So, after converting the battery, does the positive electrode still remain positive? I am going to assume yes, since there are no warnings about this in what I've read. I would think it would reverse, but I guess not?

Tishatang

[theremart]

RE: question.

Hi All

I hope this is not a stupid question. Chemistry is not my thing. In my mind, an alkaline solution is the opposite of an acid solution. So, after converting the battery, does the positive electrode still remain positive? I am going to assume yes, since there are no warnings about this in what I've read. I would think it would reverse, but I guess not?

Tishatang

Good question...

When i put alum in my battery the charge remained the same.

What really impressed me is after I removed all the electrolyte, there was still 10V charge in the battery after that, and I could light a light bulb with it for a short time.

If you watch Bedinis' video again you will see what is key is the coating on the plates. That coating which is formed after a time seems to determine if a terminal is positive or negative. I have found this to be true with other electrolysis experiments I have done, there seems to be a 'polarization' of the plates being chemical bonds happen that tend one plate to become more positive or one to become more negative, when current flows thru it.

Bedini says, about the terminals that they have already been conditioned when they are put in the alum... Yes they have been with the previous work that he did in the sulfuric acid, and you can see the different coatings of the plates.

[Tishatang]

theremart

Polarity seems to remain unchanged for all batteries, not just RE conditioned ones. I read all the feedback at the bottom of the link Amigo posted here:

Sepp Hasslberger: How to convert a Lead Acid Battery into an Alkaline Battery

No one said anything about a pole reversal.

Chris

[theremart]

theremart

Polarity seems to remain unchanged for all batteries, not just RE conditioned ones. I read all the feedback at the bottom of the link Amigo posted here:

Sepp Hasslberger: How to convert a Lead Acid Battery into an Alkaline Battery

No one said anything about a pole reversal.

Chris

Ok, kool... that is a good article... much you can learn there.

[theremart]

Thinking out loud...

I was wondering if on was to create a battery like Johns test lead batteries, if one was to hook up Peter's motor to it would it do the same to the battery? The scope shots I have of my motor show more of an AC typ output rather than a dc type.

I was wondering about the construction of the batteries as well, there seem to be plastic in a circle tied together with rubber bands, I wonder how that is configured..

Also, how long did it take to get the coating as he had, and if you had two in series would it coat at the same rate...

[ren]

Hey Mart I was surfing through those links posted above and I came across this.

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Check out what these guys are doing. It sounds like Alum to me. They have small to large batteries ready to go it seems.

[theremart]

Re: other batteries.

Hey Mart I was surfing through those links posted above and I came across this.

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Check out what these guys are doing. It sounds like Alum to me. They have small to large batteries ready to go it seems.

on the brand new electrolyte of liquid low sodium silicate compound,

Sounds like salt, and sand... interesting...

I had a friend tell me durring the war when they invade Japan, they found a battery that would not go dead. It just ran and ran and ran....

I do think other countries will run far ahead of the US, because we have focus on profit margins, and not research and development. At least that which we are ready to release to the masses

[forelle]

This is what I have been looking for.....

BatteryForming_2008_04_25_16_16_47.wmv

A clear understanding of what is happening in the batteries..

Hi
the link is not working can you give me an other one.
Thanks

[SilverToGold]

BatteryForming_2008_04_25_16_16_47.wmv - YouTube

Hi
the link is not working can you give me an other one.
Thanks

[brian516]

Battery Tip for everyone!

I've got a tip for everyone out there making home-made batteries....

The more surface area you have, the better your results will be. At the very least, take some 220 grit or 150 grit sandpaper and crosshatch the metal plates/tubes/rods. Once I get my hands on some magnesium that is large enough, I'm going to take my dremel and cut some grooves in it as well. It should boost the output quite a lot. I thought about using several smaller rods, but I don't think it will have the same effect considering they will not be one piece, but many seperate ones that will grow layers between them.

Also, pressure helps a whole lot, but you already know that.... However, to keep the pressure up, I'm thinking about soldering on copper caps while I have the cell under pressure in the press. Not sure if this is that great of an idea though, considering I'm going to need to drill a hole in the top one, and also insulate it from everything else. Maybe a polyurethane or maybe a silicon coating? Of course this will have to be a cell that does not require any additional moisture than what it will contain in the beginning, so it's going to have to be a long-term experiment to see how it holds up, and what effect different moisture levels have over time.

Again, I'm quite new to all of this, so maybe this has already been done and I just haven't found the thread for it yet.... and maybe I'm completely off base and my idea will fail miserably.....