Bedini Scope Shots

[theremart]

RE: silly question.

Maybe a silly question, but is the wave still present with only 1 lead connected to either ground or your antenna?

Not a silly question. It exists not with the ground, but only with the wire in the air. I tested each wire by itself connect.

[Sephiroth]

I have noticed something similar but can't explain it

Perhaps something to do with the em frequencies whizzing around us all the time being picked up by the antenna, or a phantom on the scope... i dunno!

[mrbreau]

Hi Warren,

yep that's what I thought I was looking at

Are you using a standard SSG coil, It looks like the kind of wave I would see on a bifilar coil with a diode coming from the negative side of the primary coil going to the charging battery
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Would be nice if someone with a bit more experience with scope shots could comment

Sephiroth? Thanks for the reply. Your post poses a few questions I never even thought of asking. So, I'm going to have to set up again so I can do your questions justice.

I've asked around and posted my shots. I suppose I'm too dumb to know when the right answer is posted but I go through the motions of checking them all out. I think you MAY have put me onto something that I'll have to check out soon.

I added the underline in Sephiroth's quote.

Onward and upward!

Warren
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[mrbreau]

Setup

Sephiroth? The magnets I'm using are the ones recommended; 1-7/8 x 1 x 3/8 and are c8. I've noticed that they aren't very uniform in strength and/or character. I floated mine to be sure they were all oriented the same. But I still get a non-uniform wave.

After yesterday's discussion I decided to do some checking on the one coil I have intact. Sure enough, one of the windings shows a resistance and is NOT continuous. Since ALL my coils had to be spliced, I think that in itself just might be the problem.

I think I need to post this somewhere else, in order to keep the discussion on an even keel.

Warren
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[theremart]

RE: I dunno.

I have noticed something similar but can't explain it

Perhaps something to do with the em frequencies whizzing around us all the time being picked up by the antenna, or a phantom on the scope... i dunno!

Well I dunno either

Anyhow... Today I am trying to fix a battery that I was gonna junk... It is a 12 ah battery I took the top off before, but I did not see the rubber caps before on the battery ( I thought they were plastic last time ) I removed them and low behold the water was WAY low in them. Filled them up, at first got -3.28 volts, then went to 3.4 V then..... 32V lol.. They looked white with sulfate inside sooo. gonna be a while on this one... If it fails to charge I will try converting it to an alum battery.

[gmeat]

Still waiting

Hi Everyone,


Sure wish someone with a scope would post some scope shots with a bifilar coil as a choke .


-Gary

[BinzerBob]

Scope shots of Start up and Full Speed

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone has scope shots of the bedinni SSG at startup and mid startup and full Speed (without changing the pot.. so for one pot setting).

I don't have a scope, but I have a frequency meter. What I found is that the Frequency of the coil at startup is pretty much the same as the Frequency of the coil at full speed.

[EgmQC]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone has scope shots of the bedinni SSG at startup and mid startup and full Speed (without changing the pot.. so for one pot setting).

I don't have a scope, but I have a frequency meter. What I found is that the Frequency of the coil at startup is pretty much the same as the Frequency of the coil at full speed.

Its 1 cycle per magnet pass. So RPM / Number of magnet , and / 60 and you get the frequency.

Edit : The frequency increase until the wheel reach its full speed
Best Regards,
Eric

[Sephiroth]

One of Lee's video shows the scope as the rotor accelerates...

YouTube - Inductor In Trigger Circuit

[BinzerBob]

Thanks for the reply... very interesting to see that U Tube Video and explanation. LED Strobe Light very interesting concept, that allows us to see us where we are on the H Wave as the motor turns.

[N O G]

Scope shot

Hi there, just thought id send one of my scope shots off one of my SSG energizers .

[Bodkins]

Tesla tricks

Hi All
Thanks Sephiroth for this thread .
Would like to add my scope shot of a strange effect!!
I have a fan ignition coil and CLF bulbs setup, the fan is in oscillation with the ignition coil and the secondly of the ignition coil lights the bulbs.
the thing is, i have the negative of the scope to the postive of the ignition coil(grounded connection) and on the negative of the clf bulb i have a insulated antenna with a strange diode and cap setup (wind connection).
If i tune the fan i can fill the cap make the light get brighter and lower the ampdraw!!!!!
Lidmotor Nat1971a and Boxa888 are all working on this, we believe we are walking in the footsteps of TESLA

Also you can do cool tricks with the lights
YouTube - Bodkins 4 lamp trick!
More info go here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...attery-sg.html

[BinzerBob]

View of Current flowing in the bedini and or other pulse type circuits

Hello all... I just got a scope and started to poke around the bedini motor and my small pulse motor.

What I have done, which I don't see much talk about , is that I have put a 1 ohm resistor in series with the charging battery. I take my scope prob and view the voltage across the 1 ohm resistor. This now gives me the amperage spikes going into the battery (V=IR so the I=V/R here in my case the R=1 so I=V shown on the scope).

Because I did not have a scope before I was using amp meters to view the amperage... anyway, what I found is that the amp meters do a good job of displaying the average amperage in the circuit. Actually they do it really good job like within 5% accuracy. How I verified this was that I basically intergrated the scope shot curve and over its period and divided it by the same time period to get the average value as determined by the scope and then looked at the amp meter and they were very close to each other!!!

I will send some pictures of what I mean soon or relatively soon.. but I thought that this info might help someone who doesn't have a scope.

[Sephiroth]

Hi BinzerBob,

Thanks for bringing that up!
I found that technique useful for finding the peak current when coil shuts off. I hadn't actually tried using the scope to verify my meters yet but it is good to know they are fairly accurate Are those digital meters you are comparing by the way?

Looking forward to your shots!

[NXUS]

Valid question, and all things being equal if no outside forces where applied to the wire, the charge transfer would propigate forever, but the real world doesn't work that way. There is no perfect insulator so there will be losses associated with leakage, and losses due to the resistance of the wire will eventually reduce the voltage until equalibrium is reached and entropy wins again.

All this is calculable but who needs a headache right now..