Bedini SG

[elias]

Generator

Hi

Ren, Thanks for your input, The fake transistor page is interesting.
I had experimented with generating electricity with my smaller SSG before. The most interesting thing I realized is the fact that charging small capacitors don't drag the rotor so much. But if you want to charge a big one like 10,000uF for example, at first it drags the rotor down and as it gets up in voltage, it drags less until it reaches its optimum point which drags no more. I verified bringing the generator coil slowly near the wheel while the capacitor charges up, in this case it didn't drag the rotor at all, because as the capacitor charges the coil gets nearer, and it goes up until it reaches its nearest point to the rotor. But, I still prefer the coil pulsing method as in the self-runner. Because designing such a system which moves its coils as the wheel rotates is cumbersome.

Elias

[ren]

G, I would like to try this one day, particulary the arrangement of the coils and the magnets. I think the imbalance of the seven coils versus the eight magnets would help to reduce cogging significantly. Bill also used amorphus (typo?) metal in his cores for maximum current capture for minimal cogging. Also remember that each coil was pulsed around the circuit will all others were capturing to aid the rotation.

Theres alot to be said for an efficient alternator generator design, perhaps we should get in touch with the windmill groups to pick their brains....

[gmeat]

Bedini/Muller

Hi Everyone,


Has anyone tried to make a Bedini SSG and couple it with a Muller type generator?.It seems to me this might be a good concept.The way I see it if you take a large rotor say about 20" diameter and have your SSG coils set up on the O.D. and the Muller coils somewhere towards the inner to middle part of the rotor it would seem that the Bedini coils would have a mechanical advantage over the Muller coils.Also,If you add a flywheel that is smaller in circumference meaning more of its mass towards the center of the rotor or maybe it would work better with the flywheel mass towards the outside of the rotor?. Does'nt that also make it even more of a mechanical advantage for the O.D. coils.Anyone have any thoughts on this or know if its already been tried (other than JB).

-gmeat

[ren]

Elias good work on your setup. Let us know how it performs. Remember you can hook up some of those 7 amp hours in parallel to effectively make a larger bank of amp hours if you cant afford a larger battery just yet. I think that some of bedinis designs actually have the two coils in series. There may be some advantages to this for some designs. The mj is an excellent transistor for a higher am draw setup. You can also get the equivalent in a to3 (think 2n3055 housing) case. These are the mj15022 i think. The mjs are a bit pricey so make sure you get your circuit down pat. Also check out this page before you buy some Counterfeit Transistors

A comment on the sg generator. Looks like good work, but make sure you understand a few things here. Firstly the generator is producing ac currents (according to what he says) and it isnt good practise to compare ac output to dc input. Secondly as far as I can tell he doesnt have a load on the generator, which is also misleading. I didnt watch the entire video however, maybe I missed something. I have had a single pickup coil generate up to 20 volts off a spinning sg, but as soon as you place a load (i.e. try to use that power from the pickup coil) on it it will drag your system down, often slowing it to a stop. I think this is why the pickup coil is dumped into a cap and the main circuit is disconnected while the cap is dumped back into the run battery in some of Bedinis designs. It isolates the source from the collected output at all times, keeping it a true open loop system.

In saying this, I can see alot of potential in this gents particular config. The long rotor has plenty of room for more drive coils and if magnets are placed out of phase on different coils then it will deliver alot more torque. It reminds me of one of Johns machines, the one on eftv2 next to his 20 pole monster.

His alternator/pickup design looks reasonable too. For those that have seen the plans to Bedinis free energy generator you can probably see the similarities in design. If he was to pulse the output back across his run battery I bet he would get some interesting results. Would take alot of tinkering, but from the look of his benchtop, tinkering is something he is not afraid to do

[Aaron]

series wound

I have done that with the coils.
You can just wind them like normal and then just hook in series
like you mention...like Tesla pancake bifilar coil style.

[elias]

Today I found a new trick. Simply hook another coil in series with your standard power coil. I gained higher RPM at the same voltage and amps!

I did this before with my reed switch, but it just hit me today to try this.

Cheers!

Thank you all for the transistor recommendations,

Theremart,

I don't know if Bedini recommends doing this, because wiring coils in series will increase the impedance. But I know that Tesla had some special coils, which were actually bifliar coils hooked up in series. These coils tend to have 2 times more energy. I wonder why Bedini hasn't recommended building these types of coils for his machines? For example, instead wiring a single 900 turn, wiring bifilar 450 turns and putting those to filars in series. Maybe these types of designs can't deliver large amount of Radiant energy and it gets wasted by discharging into each other, but only a thought.

If I get convinced that using Tesla type wiring for coils is a benefit to these machines, I'll wind my new coils like that.

Elias

[theremart]

Since I have been using my zener diodes, I have been able to use these cheaper transistors.


I like the D44VH10, 80 volt, good for switching up to 5 Amps, Gain falls to zero at about 50 MHz. Lots of current gain (I have run these with 2k to 4k base resistors).
Designed as a high speed switching transistor for switch mode power supplies.
http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/D44VH-D.PDF

I have been using these and they Rock. But be sure to protect them with the zener modification mentioned earlier.


P.S.

Today I found a new trick. Simply hook another coil in series with your standard power coil. I gained higher RPM at the same voltage and amps!

I did this before with my reed switch, but it just hit me today to try this.

Cheers!

[Aaron]

Mj21194

Elias,

Motor looks great!

MJ21194 are great transistors for these circuits.

[theremart]

Must See!!!!!!

Someone figured out how to make a generator hookup with the SSG

They are getting 18V from their generator ( not fully tuned yet! )

This is my next project!!!!!!

YouTube - MUST SEE!!!!

He shows step by step how do it.

[elias]

Elias, your setup looks very good. You have three big coils, how much $ did you spent on that? I hope it will perform well for you

The three coils cost me about 100$. Each of them weighs about 2kg. Thanks for your encouragement.

[Jetijs]

Elias, your setup looks very good. You have three big coils, how much $ did you spent on that? I hope it will perform well for you

[elias]

My tri coiler SSG

Hi everyone,

My tri-coiler SSG is almost complete, so I thought to share a photo of it. I ran it with two coils, because somehow four of my transistors were blown out. Some the 2n3055s were different in labeling and those were the most vulnerable ones! I saw some Toshiba 2N3055 transistors with higher price, maybe I'll try those ones. Any one has any recommendation for transistors? I have not competed the magnets on the wheel, and I'll add 6 more double stacked magnets on it, also I intend to add three more tri-filar coils with #18 wire to it. My Battery is also unable to power this with three coils, so I want to buy a good battery with more amp-hours. I have to say that running it with 18 volts was really great, it produces significant amount of radiant energy and torque. Any suggestions?

Elias

[ren]

All good. Hey I could be wrong, maybe Erwin is a female??????

[theremart]

Opps

lol. I believe Erwin is a male, but your right about his collection. I learnt alot about this tech from this page, I recommend it to anyone, especially the visual drawings of the circuits.

My appologies

[ren]

lol. I believe Erwin is a male, but your right about his collection. I learnt alot about this tech from this page, I recommend it to anyone, especially the visual drawings of the circuits.